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Shem wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 15:09
Warren wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 12:49
Shem wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 11:35
Warren wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 10:11
nicole wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 09:55 hahahahhaalkdjfalksjraklsjfdlkasjr;lkawjf;lkajg;laj

https://www.vox.com/culture/22273263/st ... ction-2024
Oh Wormhole Aliens :roll:
That is exactly what sucks about DS9.
I guess not every Trek series can match "commentaries about race ripped from the pages of Dr. Seuss."
Is that sarcasm I detect there?
Seems funny to condemn DS9 in particular for doing one of the most Star Trek things there is.
I don't see any overlap between deriding racial prejudice in 60's America, and pretending 90's (or 2020's) America is an "extremely rigid caste system built atop race and class". Last Battlefield may have been too on the nose, but at least it was relevant.
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Warren wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 18:56
Shem wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 15:09
Warren wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 12:49
Shem wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 11:35
Warren wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 10:11
nicole wrote: 16 Feb 2021, 09:55 hahahahhaalkdjfalksjraklsjfdlkasjr;lkawjf;lkajg;laj

https://www.vox.com/culture/22273263/st ... ction-2024
Oh Wormhole Aliens :roll:
That is exactly what sucks about DS9.
I guess not every Trek series can match "commentaries about race ripped from the pages of Dr. Seuss."
Is that sarcasm I detect there?
Seems funny to condemn DS9 in particular for doing one of the most Star Trek things there is.
I don't see any overlap between deriding racial prejudice in 60's America, and pretending 90's (or 2020's) America is an "extremely rigid caste system built atop race and class". Last Battlefield may have been too on the nose, but at least it was relevant.
That's pretty much exactly what my grandmother said about Last Battlefield, but ok.
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There's a Pluto channel that streams nothing but TNG episodes all day (or at least every time I've checked, though the channel name is just "Star Trek").
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The people who made the pretty good DS9 documentary are now crowdfunding a VOY documentary.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 10:31 The people who made the pretty good DS9 documentary are now crowdfunding a VOY documentary.
I didn't care fore their DS9 doc. Walked out after about 15 min.
Swag on offer for this one isn't worth donating.
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Every time I see a TNG season 1 episode I am struck anew by how awful it was. Pluto just ran the episode where the Enterprise visits the Planet of Racist African Caricatures, and the Chief Caricature kidnaps Tasha Yar.
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A non-exhaustive list of good episodes from TNG season 1:
  • Datalore
  • Home Soil
  • Coming of Age
  • Heart of Glory
  • The Arsenal of Freedom
  • Conspiracy
  • The Neutral Zone
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Warren wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 19:46
Hugh Akston wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 10:31 The people who made the pretty good DS9 documentary are now crowdfunding a VOY documentary.
I didn't care fore their DS9 doc. Walked out after about 15 min.
Swag on offer for this one isn't worth donating.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 16:49 A non-exhaustive list of good episodes from TNG season 1:
  • Datalore
  • Home Soil
  • Coming of Age
  • Heart of Glory
  • The Arsenal of Freedom
  • Conspiracy
  • The Neutral Zone
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nicole wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 17:23
Warren wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 19:46
Hugh Akston wrote: 03 Mar 2021, 10:31 The people who made the pretty good DS9 documentary are now crowdfunding a VOY documentary.
I didn't care fore their DS9 doc. Walked out after about 15 min.
Swag on offer for this one isn't worth donating.
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(We got a janeway coffee mug)
I liked the mug. But it wasn't distinctive enough to pony up for. I like some of the t-shirts too but the "Can't promise yours will look like this because we're still haggling over the rights" caveat, is a deal breaker.
dbcooper wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 17:25
Hugh Akston wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 16:49 A non-exhaustive list of good episodes from TNG season 1:
  • Datalore
  • Home Soil
  • Coming of Age
  • Heart of Glory
  • The Arsenal of Freedom
  • Conspiracy
  • The Neutral Zone
+1
I'll cosign with a "grading on a curve" amendment. Season 1 sucked for many reasons. Good scripts didn't overcome the gawdawful musical score, or the cardboard taped on the bridge display panels (so the lights weren't reflected in them), or, or, or.
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Warren wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 20:00 I'll cosign with a "grading on a curve" amendment. Season 1 sucked for many reasons. Good scripts didn't overcome the gawdawful musical score, or the cardboard taped on the bridge display panels (so the lights weren't reflected in them), or, or, or.
Huh. For all the sucky things I've noticed about season 1, I'd never heard of or noticed that detail before.
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Jennifer wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 20:19
Warren wrote: 04 Mar 2021, 20:00 I'll cosign with a "grading on a curve" amendment. Season 1 sucked for many reasons. Good scripts didn't overcome the gawdawful musical score, or the cardboard taped on the bridge display panels (so the lights weren't reflected in them), or, or, or.
Huh. For all the sucky things I've noticed about season 1, I'd never heard of or noticed that detail before.
And now you'll never be able to not see it.
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That Pluto Star Trek channel is currently streaming Discovery, which I have zero interest in watching, so I dunno how long it'll be before I see another TNG s1 episode, to study the control panels on the bridge.
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Re: "Nemesis" ... holy shit, that was awful.
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Jennifer wrote: 06 Mar 2021, 18:16 Re: "Nemesis" ... holy shit, that was awful.
Iève never seen Nemesis. From what I've heard, it sounds like the script was written by a Qanon supporter.
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I don’t get it, I love Nemesis, and I always cry at the end.
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Waaaay too much emphasis on the villain at the expense of the other characters (I imagine this would've been even more annoying when it first came out: say, some TNG fan looking forward to seeing more of their favorite characters after the show's cancellation -- and instead, they get Nemesis).

The Pluto Star Trek channel has been airing that and the First Contact movie a LOT lately, in between TNG episodes. Which is fine; I was just thinking I oughtta go back to my educational Spanish-language preschool TV streams anyway. [Kicks pebble]
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Most Star Trek movies, like most Star Wars movies, suck. For that matter, half or more of the episodes of Star Trek:TOS sucked. They were just good in their time compared to, well, to nothing at all. Same with the first Star Wars movie or, as I like to call it, Star Wars. I mean, geez, most of them couldn't have been any worse even if Nicholas Cage was in them.
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