The Sheriff Joe Arpaio Memorial Prison Reform Thread

[Warren]

I recommend the podcast series "Running from COPS" if your day doesn't have enough things that make you angry. It's about reality TV cop shows, and... It's probably worse than you think.

*googles*
*listens to three minute introductory episode*
30 years? Holy shit, really? It's still on? Heh.
*listens to first 36 minute episode*
They're easing me into this. I don't know how much I'm going to listen to before I can't take it anymore, but I'll definitely go a few more episodes.
One thing, the narrator saying "I don't like to toot my own horn" as a running gag is already old. Hope it's not a thing.

[Pham Nuwen]

Thank you for taking it on the chin, Warren. A little more detail next time, Warren.

[Warren]

I don't think I can provide details that you didn't already know.
Like oh you won't believe this:

• The TV show, is working with the police! No really, the police get to decide what footage goes on TV!
• They show disproportionate arrest for drug crimes!
• They show disproportionate black suspects!
• The suspects have to sign a release form and, I'm not shitting you, a lot of them deny having ever signed it. Not only that, the producers of the show, and you really won't believe this, claim they always talk them into it and they never ever coerce the suspects. Really! That's what they say.

And so on.

[Pham Nuwen]

Huh. Doesn't sound very awful. More usual business stuff. Thank you for doing the boring stuff I was to lazy to do.

[Warren]

Huh. Doesn't sound very awful. More usual business stuff. Thank you for doing the boring stuff I was to lazy to do.

It never really rises to awful. At worst it's uncomfortable (like listening to a dog drag a guy out of hiding by his neck) but not as bad as actually watching COPS. There are six 40 min. episodes and a 16 min. bonus episode. I think it could have been better at half that time, but it never feels like it's being padded. It was easy to binge the whole thing.
Two episodes where particularly enlightening for me
Episode 4 introduced me to LIVE PD which I didn't know was a thing and fuuuuuk is it a thing.
Episode 6 went into what COPS cuts out.
I also highly recommend the bonus episode.

[Hugh Akston]

Episode 4 introduced me to LIVE PD which I didn't know was a thing and fuuuuuk is it a thing.

Stepdad watches that and it is gross.

[Eric the .5b]

Huh. Doesn't sound very awful. More usual business stuff. Thank you for doing the boring stuff I was to lazy to do.

Thank you very much-o, Mr. Warrento?

[Pham Nuwen]

Racist? Tune in tonight for News at 9.

[Eric the .5b]

Racist? Tune in tonight for News at 9.

It's not racist, it's modren.

[Pham Nuwen]

You'll have to wait til 9pm to argue that.

[Eric the .5b]

You'll have to wait til 9pm to argue that.

It's 9pm in Nova Scotia.

[Pham Nuwen]

Where?

[lunchstealer]

Where?

It's the Maine of America's hat.

[lunchstealer]

Where?

Or the place that's like near where the Trailer Park Boys are from.

[Pham Nuwen]

I'm located in gods country while on gods time zone. I cant help you with Nigeria Scotland or whatever.

[Ellie]

I should not have looked at Jennifer's Twitter and seen this nutpunch she retweeted, but since I had to suffer you do too:

@radleybalko
Working on a story about a guy jailed over a 20 year old crime, mistakenly kept in jail despite a release order (due to DOC incompetence). He then caught COVID-19, got no medical attention as he deteriorated, and died alone, because no one bothered to tell his family he was sick.

[JD]

There's a lot of discussion about the (horrifyingly high) incarceration rate of the US, but I got curious about what it looked like in other countries. And interestingly enough, the UK and Canada show some of the same pattern.


(source: https://commonslibrary.parliament.uk/re ... s/sn04334/)


"Adult Penal Population in Canada per 100,000"

(source: https://www.csc-scc.gc.ca/research/foru ... -eng.shtml)

I can't find much information about Australia, but what I have found suggests something similar.

A new report reveals that a higher percentage of Australians are imprisoned now than at any time since the end of the 19th century. In 2018, 221 in 100,000 Australians were incarcerated, an increase of 130 percent over the 1985 rate.

The incarceration rate for Aboriginal people is more than 10 times higher, at 2,481 in 100,000, meaning that they are more likely to be imprisoned than African-Americans in the United States.

From 1860—the earliest year for which data is available—to 1919, Australia’s incarceration rate fell from 650 in 100,000 to 78 in 100,000, after the country ceased being a collection of British penal colonies. The rate remained relatively steady at around 96 in 100,000 until 1985, when it began the current rapid rise.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/0 ... s-s12.html

[Andrew]

I can't find much information about Australia, but what I have found suggests something similar.

From 1860—the earliest year for which data is available—to 1919, Australia’s incarceration rate fell from 650 in 100,000 to 78 in 100,000, after the country ceased being a collection of British penal colonies. The rate remained relatively steady at around 96 in 100,000 until 1985, when it began the current rapid rise.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/0 ... s-s12.html

Although if you consider all of Australia the prison, then the drop from nearly 100% incarceration is promising.

[Warren]

I can't find much information about Australia, but what I have found suggests something similar.

From 1860—the earliest year for which data is available—to 1919, Australia’s incarceration rate fell from 650 in 100,000 to 78 in 100,000, after the country ceased being a collection of British penal colonies. The rate remained relatively steady at around 96 in 100,000 until 1985, when it began the current rapid rise.

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2019/0 ... s-s12.html

Although if you consider all of Australia the prison, then the drop from nearly 100% incarceration is promising.

Nearly 100%? You sure about that?

[Dangerman]

Yeah, there were people there before it became a prison, and they didn't leave, despite the best efforts of the gaolers and inmates.

[Andrew]

I'm sorry my joke wasn't factually accurate enough.

[Hugh Akston]

TBF being stuck on an island with a bunch of british ex-pats sounds like my idea of prison.

[lunchstealer]

I'm sorry my joke wasn't factually accurate enough.

Hi! Welcome to grylliade!

[thoreau]

I'm sorry my joke wasn't factually accurate enough.

Hi! Welcome to grylliade!

I don't think it's accurate to say that all threads are like this.

[Ellie]

I have no words.

https://twitter.com/chloedontsurf/status/1282724484986867712