Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

User avatar
Painboy
Posts: 4662
Joined: 18 Feb 2013, 11:33
Location: Seattle

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Painboy »

I would make the argument that Trump is just a symptom and has little to do with the cause. Whether he actually believes his BS, or it's all just a political tactic, this stuff has been around for awhile now and he just rode the wave into office.
User avatar
Mo
Posts: 25883
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:08

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Mo »

Painboy wrote:I would make the argument that Trump is just a symptom and has little to do with the cause. Whether he actually believes his BS, or it's all just a political tactic, this stuff has been around for awhile now and he just rode the wave into office.
Image
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod

no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
User avatar
Warren
Posts: 30852
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Warren »

Mo wrote:
Painboy wrote:I would make the argument that Trump is just a symptom and has little to do with the cause. Whether he actually believes his BS, or it's all just a political tactic, this stuff has been around for awhile now and he just rode the wave into office.
Image
image not an image
The opinions which are still persecuted strike the majority as so monstrous and immoral that the general principle of toleration cannot be held to apply to them. But this is exactly the same view as that which made possible the tortures of the Inquisition. - Bertrand Russell
User avatar
Taktix®
Posts: 8039
Joined: 07 May 2010, 05:29
Location: The Caribbean

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Taktix® »

Highway wrote:So Taktix® is the first one to make a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories...
Though I should point out this should hardly be a conspiracy theory. This is the biggest smoke n' mirrors presidency of all time. Just this week, he tried to muddy the waters about the Russian ties with all the "Obama wiretapped me! Wah!" shit...
"Guilty as charged. Go ahead and ban me from the mall." - Ellie
User avatar
Kolohe
Posts: 14850
Joined: 06 May 2010, 10:51

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Kolohe »

Warren wrote:
Mo wrote:
Painboy wrote:I would make the argument that Trump is just a symptom and has little to do with the cause. Whether he actually believes his BS, or it's all just a political tactic, this stuff has been around for awhile now and he just rode the wave into office.
Image
image not an image
It's the porque no los dos? gif.
when you wake up as the queen of the n=1 kingdom and mount your steed non sequiturius, do you look out upon all you survey and think “damn, it feels good to be a green idea sleeping furiously?" - dhex
User avatar
fyodor
Posts: 6887
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:18

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by fyodor »

Taktix® wrote:
Highway wrote:So Taktix® is the first one to make a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories...
Though I should point out this should hardly be a conspiracy theory. This is the biggest smoke n' mirrors presidency of all time. Just this week, he tried to muddy the waters about the Russian ties with all the "Obama wiretapped me! Wah!" shit...
I'm skeptical but willing to entertain the theory that Trump's Trumpisms are a part of a carefully thought out strategy to divert public attention one way or another.

I can see how the hysterical and unsupported nature of the Trumpisms may possibly encourage unsupported hysteria in the populace, though it's far from clear to me there's really any epidemic of such that's unique to our day and age.

All that said, Taktix, your original post on the subject seemed to be saying that Trump was also actively encouraging conspiracy theories amongst the populace, presumably behind the scenes, to aid in his diversion practices. Did I read you right on that? Cause that's where the turtles start raining down in my view....
Your optimism just confuses and enrages me. - Timothy
User avatar
Taktix®
Posts: 8039
Joined: 07 May 2010, 05:29
Location: The Caribbean

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Taktix® »

fyodor wrote:
Taktix® wrote:
Highway wrote:So Taktix® is the first one to make a conspiracy theory about conspiracy theories...
Though I should point out this should hardly be a conspiracy theory. This is the biggest smoke n' mirrors presidency of all time. Just this week, he tried to muddy the waters about the Russian ties with all the "Obama wiretapped me! Wah!" shit...
I'm skeptical but willing to entertain the theory that Trump's Trumpisms are a part of a carefully thought out strategy to divert public attention one way or another.

I can see how the hysterical and unsupported nature of the Trumpisms may possibly encourage unsupported hysteria in the populace, though it's far from clear to me there's really any epidemic of such that's unique to our day and age.

All that said, Taktix, your original post on the subject seemed to be saying that Trump was also actively encouraging conspiracy theories amongst the populace, presumably behind the scenes, to aid in his diversion practices. Did I read you right on that? Cause that's where the turtles start raining down in my view....
I don't think it's turtle-droppin' crazy. His chief adviser, Steve Bannon, is an unapoligetic bold-faced propagandist and Breitbart "News" has published verifiably false conspiratorial "news" articles. And it's not some X-files-type, agents sneaking around in shadows conspiracy, it's right out in the open. There are recordings of Bannon suggesting putting agents into protest crowds to create chaos. Trumps been a birther and a truther, he tried to float the idea that Ted Cruz's dad was involved in the JFK assassination (right when Cruz was closest to overtaking him). Trump's deputy campaign manager, David Bossie, a peddler of many of the wildest Clinton conspiracy theories of the 1990s, once made a documentary alleging that Hillary Clinton had murdered a critic's cat.

I don't see why it's hard to believe they'd float theories to distract people, since major newspapers are reporting that he's doing that very thing right now, as we speak (well, type): http://www.salon.com/2017/03/23/confirm ... -theories/

EDIT: Also, Alex Jones being anything more that a cocktail joke.
"Guilty as charged. Go ahead and ban me from the mall." - Ellie
User avatar
nicole
Posts: 11064
Joined: 12 Jan 2013, 16:28

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by nicole »

Should have put this here as well as Light Laffs:

"Thread," as they say
"Fucking qualia." -Hugh Akston

"Sliced bagels aren't why trump won; it's why it doesn't matter who wins." -dhex
User avatar
Jennifer
Posts: 26677
Joined: 28 Apr 2010, 14:03

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Jennifer »

Speaking of conspiracies ... I live under one of the flight paths leading to and from the Atlanta airport (though far enough away that you can't hear the planes, fortunately), and two of the last three places Jeff and I lived before that were also fairly close to airports, and it's occurred to me: if you're one of those people who think contrails are actually nefarious "chemtrails," how do you even function? Assuming you live anywhere other than the outermost sticks, I mean. Pretty much the only days I don't see contrails are when there are too many ordinary clouds obscuring the sky.

I remember one day shortly after Jeff and I moved in together -- this was in East Windsor, Connecticut, not far from Bradley International Airport -- whatever conditions are good for making contrails must've reached 100-percent efficiency that day: the air was crisp and the sky a brilliant blue, not a single "natural" cloud to be seen, but the entire sky was criss-crossed with contrails at almost right angles to each other; I remember Jeff wondering what the area's original Indian inhabitants from centuries ago would've made of the sky, and I suggested that maybe the Sky Goddess was weaving a giant basket directly over our heads. It actually looked pretty cool ... but if you thought those white lines were actually some horrible mind-control drug or whatever the chemtrailers like to claim, it would've been almost as terrifying as a mushroom cloud on a nearby horizon. If I thought those sky lines were poison, I'd've hidden in my house with all the doors and windows shut.
"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b
User avatar
Highway
Posts: 14073
Joined: 12 May 2011, 00:22
Location: the Electric Ocean

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Highway »

There are rarely contrails where I live. Sometimes the flight path route this way, but that won't produce contrails either, because those aren't high altitude flights. Sometimes we'll get a few from traffic going past the area, but it's not too hard to find plenty of places to live, not even that far off the beaten path, where airplanes aren't really overhead much.
"Sharks do not go around challenging people to games of chance like dojo breakers."
User avatar
Eric the .5b
Posts: 15530
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 16:29

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Eric the .5b »

Jennifer wrote:Speaking of conspiracies ... I live under one of the flight paths leading to and from the Atlanta airport (though far enough away that you can't hear the planes, fortunately), and two of the last three places Jeff and I lived before that were also fairly close to airports, and it's occurred to me: if you're one of those people who think contrails are actually nefarious "chemtrails," how do you even function? Assuming you live anywhere other than the outermost sticks, I mean. Pretty much the only days I don't see contrails are when there are too many ordinary clouds obscuring the sky.
Maybe they're incurious people who never looked much at the sky. Kinda like those people who think the moon only shows at night. But then, some paranoid points up at a plane leaving a contrail and gives them a cock and bull story about mind-control chemicals. Suddenly, they have a new fear?

I don't know.
"Better that ten guilty persons escape than that one innocent suffer."
Cet animal est très méchant / Quand on l'attaque il se défend.
User avatar
dbcooper
Posts: 18881
Joined: 05 May 2010, 15:40

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by dbcooper »

nicole wrote:Should have put this here as well as Light Laffs:

"Thread," as they say
His twitter stream of the protest is hilarious. These fucking people!
Slip inside a sleeping bag.
User avatar
Sandy
Posts: 9984
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 18:03
Location: In the hearts of little children, clogging their arteries.

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Sandy »

I tried to read what "loosh" was (see pics downthread on Twitter) and, other than bearing the hallmarks of pseudocatholic NRx "dark enlightenment," I couldn't keep going. Something about onion murder.
Hindu is the cricket of religions. You can observe it for years, you can have enthusiasts try to explain it to you, and it's still baffling. - Warren
User avatar
dhex
Posts: 16529
Joined: 05 May 2010, 16:05
Location: 'murica

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by dhex »

the fuck your feelings t shirts are kinda rad.
"i ran over the cat and didnt stop just carried on with tears in my eyes joose driving my way to work." - God
User avatar
fyodor
Posts: 6887
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:18

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by fyodor »

dhex wrote:the fuck your feelings t shirts are kinda rad.
Yeah that pic brings a smile to my face.

Someone ripping up an American flag in front of those folks and watching them lose their shit would make me smile even more!
Your optimism just confuses and enrages me. - Timothy
User avatar
dbcooper
Posts: 18881
Joined: 05 May 2010, 15:40

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by dbcooper »

It's the Alex Jones/Enya mashup you've been waiting for.

Slip inside a sleeping bag.
User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 25697
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by JasonL »

Lolol
User avatar
Warren
Posts: 30852
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Warren »

I feel like I could have never seen that and not have lost anything.
The opinions which are still persecuted strike the majority as so monstrous and immoral that the general principle of toleration cannot be held to apply to them. But this is exactly the same view as that which made possible the tortures of the Inquisition. - Bertrand Russell
User avatar
Hugh Akston
Posts: 20183
Joined: 05 May 2010, 15:51
Location: Elev. 5280 ft

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Hugh Akston »

Guy Fieri outed as Pizzagate co-conspirator
To the ordinary viewer, Fieri’s Comet Ping Pong coverage looks no different from any other episode of Diners, Drive-Ins, and Dives. He samples the sauce, cracks a bunch of corny jokes, hammily challenges Alefantis to a fight if he doesn’t hand over the ‘za. But if you’re versed in the supposed secret language of elite child abusers, even an episode of a daytime cooking show can start to look like a confession. “Would you like some pedophilia with that Guy?” reads the since-edited description on one YouTube clip of the episode. “I know oysters and clams are part of the a code word but i cant remember what it means,” reads another, referencing a clip from the episode in which Alefantis cooks a pizza with clams. “Drugs,viagra,undeveloped organ?”

“Fuck you Guy,” a commenter weighted in on the latter video. “Say hello to your secret friends the podestas and the Clintons you fat pig.”
"Is a Lulztopia the best we can hope for?!?" ~Taktix®
"Well if they're blaming libertarians again then things must be going back to normal." ~dbcooper
User avatar
nicole
Posts: 11064
Joined: 12 Jan 2013, 16:28

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by nicole »

"oysters and clams are part of the a code word but i cant remember what it means"

:lol:
"Fucking qualia." -Hugh Akston

"Sliced bagels aren't why trump won; it's why it doesn't matter who wins." -dhex
User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 25697
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by JasonL »

This is the best one I can remember. What the hell is happening.
User avatar
thoreau
Posts: 31192
Joined: 06 May 2010, 12:56
Location: Back to the lab again

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by thoreau »

JasonL wrote:This is the best one I can remember. What the hell is happening.
Don't worry. I doubt that more than a third of the Cabinet buys into this theory.

Sent from my XT1565 using Tapatalk
"...if that monkey gets any smarter it's going to start shorting TSLA."
--JD
User avatar
lunchstealer
Posts: 19396
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:25
Location: The Local Fluff in the Local Bubble

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by lunchstealer »

somebody needs to make a pedo-bear-wearing-a-guy-fieri-mask-gif stat
"Dude she's the Purdue Pharma of the black pill." - JasonL

"This thread is like a dog park where everyone lets their preconceptions and biases run around and sniff each others butts." - Hugh Akston

"That's just tokenism with extra steps." - Jake
User avatar
Mo
Posts: 25883
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:08

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by Mo »

lunchstealer wrote:somebody needs to make a pedo-bear-wearing-a-guy-fieri-mask-gif stat
Or just give him a goatee and frosted tips
his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod

no one ever yells worldstar when a pet gets fucked up - dhex
User avatar
nicole
Posts: 11064
Joined: 12 Jan 2013, 16:28

Re: Conspiracy and Kooky thinking

Post by nicole »

Infowars founder and host Alex Jones is “playing a character,” his lawyer argued during a recent custody hearing surrounding his three children.

“He is a performance artist,” Jones's attorney, Randall Wilhite, argued to a Texas judge, according to a report in the Austin American-Statesman.

Jones, a supporter of President Trump, is the owner and operator of popular websites Infowars.com and PrisonPlanet.com. He is best known for pushing unfounded conspiracy theories, including that the U.S. government was behind the Oklahoma City bombing in 1995 and the Sept. 11, 2001, terrorist attacks.

He also claims U.S. moon landings were faked and that the government faked the Sandy Hook Elementary School mass shooting using actors.
...
Jones is battling his ex-wife, Kelly Jones, for custody of their 14-year-old son and two daughters, aged 12 and 9.

“He’s not a stable person. He says he wants to break Alec Baldwin’s neck. He wants [Jennifer Lopez] to get raped,” Kelly Jones said in court, according to the American-Statesman.

“He broadcasts from home. The children are there, watching him broadcast.”

Over the next two weeks, a jury will be asked to ascertain if Jones's on-air persona is different from his off-air persona, and if he's fit to be a parent.

Several segments from Jones's show has been played to the jury.
http://thehill.com/homenews/media/32907 ... ays-lawyer
"Fucking qualia." -Hugh Akston

"Sliced bagels aren't why trump won; it's why it doesn't matter who wins." -dhex
Post Reply