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[nicole]

A thread about government schools

[nicole]

CPS sends ultrapartisan letter home with all students accusing Gov. Rauner of "stealing" from children: http://wgntv.com/2017/02/07/all-cps-stu ... ting-kids/

[Highway]

Warren Meyer has some pretty good posts about School Choice and the poor record of spending in public schools such as this.

[dhex]

there may very well be a way to write that letter that both explains the cuts and directs parents to an outlet to yell at without being all facebook posty...but i'm not sure what that is.

[nicole]

there may very well be a way to write that letter that both explains the cuts and directs parents to an outlet to yell at without being all facebook posty...but i'm not sure what that is.

Yeah, that's an interesting question, because you kind of have to presuppose that parents think the schools should get more funding, right, that furloughing teachers on nonschool days is bad, etc.

[nicole]

Starting with next year’s freshman class, in order to receive their high school diploma, all CPS students would have to show an acceptance letter to a four-year university, a community college, a trade school or apprenticeship, an internship, or a branch of the armed services.

“We already have around 62 percent of our kids are already either accepted into college or accepted into community college, and our goal is to make sure nobody spikes the ball at 12th grade. We want to make 14th grade universal. That’s the new goal line,” Emanuel told CBS This Morning on Wednesday.

http://chicago.cbslocal.com/2017/04/05/ ... gh-school/

[Kolohe]

So they can't just graduate? If they're not doing something deemed "worthy" they *can't* graduate? What a stupid ass incentive system.

[Warren]

So they can't just graduate? If they're not doing something deemed "worthy" they *can't* graduate? What a stupid ass incentive system.

That doesn't make sense. Like I don't think the military will even take you. I think the only thing they can mean is they won't let you participate in the ceremony and they hold onto your diploma.

[nicole]

So they can't just graduate? If they're not doing something deemed "worthy" they *can't* graduate? What a stupid ass incentive system.

That doesn't make sense. Like I don't think the military will even take you. I think the only thing they can mean is they won't let you participate in the ceremony and they hold onto your diploma.

Not sure what you mean about the military here. If you join up you get your diploma.

[Warren]

Times change and I don't know how things are now. When I went into the navy, it was peace time, there was good training and the GI bill to be had, Reagan was pumping money into the armed forces, and they could afford to be a little choosy about who they took. So you had to have a HS diploma or a GED to get in.

[nicole]

Times change and I don't know how things are now. When I went into the navy, it was peace time, there was good training and the GI bill to be had, Reagan was pumping money into the armed forces, and they could afford to be a little choosy about who they took. So you had to have a HS diploma or a GED to get in.

Ah. I don't know what it's like now myself, but I graduated HS in 2001 and there were kids who had signed up months before the end of the school year, intending to start right after graduation.

Boy were they in for a surprise.

[Andrew]

I see trade school, apprenticeship, and internship listed, but I don't see "getting a damn job and going to work" listed.

[Jasper]

I see trade school, apprenticeship, and internship listed, but I don't see "getting a damn job and going to work" listed.

Donors don't get any money if a kid just goes and gets a job without 2 more years of regulated training. Keep them in school longer = more money for educrats.

[Jennifer]

Fucking WHAT? Tough break for Chicago kids so poor they can't even afford application fees to various schools -- either enlist to become cannon fodder, or fuck you.

[Solitudinarian]

"Cannon fodder", eh?

[Jennifer]

"Cannon fodder", eh?

When made mandatory for kids who want to graduate high school but are too poor to pay for college application fees (especially for schools they wouldn't be able to afford even if they were accepted), yes.

[Solitudinarian]

"Cannon fodder", eh?

When made mandatory for kids who want to graduate high school but are too poor to pay for college application fees (especially for schools they wouldn't be able to afford even if they were accepted), yes.

No. Unjust, most certainly and, in my view, inarguably -- but you could have chosen your words with more care.

[lunchstealer]

Yeah, cannon fodder is so 19th Century. IED fodder is where it's at.

(apologies, Sol. if it makes you feel any better, the snackstealer is now an infantryman, although he gets to ride around in a posh Bradley. And now in the posh gunner's seat, instead of packed up into the back with the rest of the squad. And given his station right now, he's in much more danger from cannons than ieds.)

[Warren]

Yeah, cannon fodder is so 19th Century. IED fodder is where it's at.

(apologies, Sol. if it makes you feel any better, the snackstealer is now an infantryman, although he gets to ride around in a posh Bradley. And now in the posh gunner's seat, instead of packed up into the back with the rest of the squad. And given his station right now, he's in much more danger from cannons than ieds.)

Hey now that you mention it. Hooray for the snackstealer getting his life on track. Chalk up another win for the military in shearing off the corners of a teenage peg.

[nicole]

Worth County, GA — Children feel violated, parents are furious, and a lawsuit is getting filed after the Worth County Sheriff’s office conducted an illegal search of 900 students — in the name of the war on drugs. The rights-violating intrusive and aggressive patdowns and drug dog searches yielded absolutely nothing.

On April 14, when the students of Worth County High School returned from spring break, they arrived at school to find a police state had taken over. The sheriff and his deputies — with no probable cause — detained and illegally searched every single child in the school, all 900 of them.

When kids went home that day to tell their parents what happened, naturally, they were furious as it is a gross violation of the children’s 4th Amendment rights.

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/cop ... rious.html

lololol. If kids had rights, you wouldn't be able to send them to prison camps to begin with, fools.

[Warren]

Worth County, GA — Children feel violated, parents are furious, and a lawsuit is getting filed after the Worth County Sheriff’s office conducted an illegal search of 900 students — in the name of the war on drugs. The rights-violating intrusive and aggressive patdowns and drug dog searches yielded absolutely nothing.

On April 14, when the students of Worth County High School returned from spring break, they arrived at school to find a police state had taken over. The sheriff and his deputies — with no probable cause — detained and illegally searched every single child in the school, all 900 of them.

When kids went home that day to tell their parents what happened, naturally, they were furious as it is a gross violation of the children’s 4th Amendment rights.

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/cop ... rious.html

lololol. If kids had rights, you wouldn't be able to send them to prison camps to begin with, fools.

I'm actually amazed at the parental push-back. There's been a few of these things in the past and aside from a few commies at the ACLU everyone agrees it's unfortunate but we need something something for the children. The line seems to be the touching. You can shove a gun in a kids face, order him to his knees, search his back-pack and locker, but if you put your hands where his bathing suit covers, you've violated him.

[Aresen]

Worth County, GA — Children feel violated, parents are furious, and a lawsuit is getting filed after the Worth County Sheriff’s office conducted an illegal search of 900 students — in the name of the war on drugs. The rights-violating intrusive and aggressive patdowns and drug dog searches yielded absolutely nothing.

On April 14, when the students of Worth County High School returned from spring break, they arrived at school to find a police state had taken over. The sheriff and his deputies — with no probable cause — detained and illegally searched every single child in the school, all 900 of them.

When kids went home that day to tell their parents what happened, naturally, they were furious as it is a gross violation of the children’s 4th Amendment rights.

http://www.activistpost.com/2017/04/cop ... rious.html

lololol. If kids had rights, you wouldn't be able to send them to prison camps to begin with, fools.

I'm actually amazed at the parental push-back. There's been a few of these things in the past and aside from a few commies at the ACLU everyone agrees it's unfortunate but we need something something for the children. The line seems to be the touching. You can shove a gun in a kids face, order him to his knees, search his back-pack and locker, but if you put your hands where his bathing suit covers, you've violated him.

Well, if they'd hired RC priests as deputies, they'd be alright.

[Sandy]

Well, if they'd hired RC priests as deputies, they'd be alright.

Not so much in rural Georgia.

[fyodor]

Worth County, GA — Children feel violated, parents are furious, and a lawsuit is getting filed after the Worth County Sheriff’s office conducted an illegal search of 900 students — in the name of the war on drugs. The rights-violating intrusive and aggressive patdowns and drug dog searches yielded absolutely nothing.

WHAT A BORING LOT!

Well, unless they hid it too good even for the dogs and pats....

[D.A. Ridgely]

Worth County, GA — Children feel violated, parents are furious, and a lawsuit is getting filed after the Worth County Sheriff’s office conducted an illegal search of 900 students — in the name of the war on drugs. The rights-violating intrusive and aggressive patdowns and drug dog searches yielded absolutely nothing.

WHAT A BORING LOT!

Well, unless they hid it too good even for the dogs and pats....

I just hope some of the kids asked why the teachers and principal weren't being searched.