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Various law enforcement officials have offered their opinion of the Capitol police's handling of the mob. Terms like "piss-poor" and "unacceptable on so many levels" are used.
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Highway wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 09:57 Interesting to see an outside perspective: 7 minute report on itv News about the events at the US Capitol yesterday:

Better than most.
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Apparently it was Pence who called in the National Guard since Trump refused. But given how thoroughly craven Pence has been all this time, I seriously wonder: would he even have done THAT much, if not for the fact that the mob was shouting things like "Hang Pence!"
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Never thought I'd see Mitch McConnell say something I'd stand up and applaud him for.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 21:09
So, he threw his Proud Boys under the bus.
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Aresen wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 21:22
Hugh Akston wrote: 07 Jan 2021, 21:09
So, he threw his Proud Boys under the bus.
Nope. In his earlier video he told them he loves them and they're very special. And at the end of this one he told them "Our incredible journey is just beginning." The Sad Bois know when he's reading from a script versus when he's talking to them.
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Nah they’re not loving it

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One thing I will say about the Dominion defamation lawsuit is that they are way overestimating what they can squeeze out of Rudy.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., seeks more than $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages. Dominion said in the 107-page legal complaint that its employees have been stalked, harassed and threatened as a “direct, foreseeable, and intentional result” of Giuliani’s “viral disinformation campaign.“
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Hugh Akston wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 14:55 One thing I will say about the Dominion defamation lawsuit is that they are way overestimating what they can squeeze out of Rudy.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., seeks more than $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages. Dominion said in the 107-page legal complaint that its employees have been stalked, harassed and threatened as a “direct, foreseeable, and intentional result” of Giuliani’s “viral disinformation campaign.“
I think they're estimating exactly how much they'd get out of Rudy. 0% of 1.3bn is the same as 0% of 1.3m but gets a better headline.

And probably sets the $ stage for the deep pocketed targets, Fox and the Trump family.
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lunchstealer wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 14:59
Hugh Akston wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 14:55 One thing I will say about the Dominion defamation lawsuit is that they are way overestimating what they can squeeze out of Rudy.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., seeks more than $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages. Dominion said in the 107-page legal complaint that its employees have been stalked, harassed and threatened as a “direct, foreseeable, and intentional result” of Giuliani’s “viral disinformation campaign.“
I think they're estimating exactly how much they'd get out of Rudy. 0% of 1.3bn is the same as 0% of 1.3m but gets a better headline.

And probably sets the $ stage for the deep pocketed targets, Fox and the Trump family.
They also specifically mention My Pillow Guy in the article.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 15:03
lunchstealer wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 14:59
Hugh Akston wrote: 26 Jan 2021, 14:55 One thing I will say about the Dominion defamation lawsuit is that they are way overestimating what they can squeeze out of Rudy.
The lawsuit, filed Monday in U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., seeks more than $1.3 billion in compensatory and punitive damages. Dominion said in the 107-page legal complaint that its employees have been stalked, harassed and threatened as a “direct, foreseeable, and intentional result” of Giuliani’s “viral disinformation campaign.“
I think they're estimating exactly how much they'd get out of Rudy. 0% of 1.3bn is the same as 0% of 1.3m but gets a better headline.

And probably sets the $ stage for the deep pocketed targets, Fox and the Trump family.
They also specifically mention My Pillow Guy in the article.
My understanding is they are looking to roll over Powell, Guiliani, and others to get them on the record coordinating falsehoods with Fox, Trump, and others.
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The limited hangout:

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Team Blue pollsters are investigating why their numbers are so far off the mark and why it's definitely not their fault
According to Democrats involved with the internal review, Tuesday’s statement marks the beginning of a years-long process to examine why, since 2012, most major elections have tilted against the party, despite favorable polling data before the vote. Up and down the ballot, Democrats have been, more often than not, shell-shocked by defeats in races they thought to be competitive, or narrower-than-expected, victories in contests they thought they led comfortably.
The memo floats at least three possible causes: late movement toward Trump and Republican candidates that polls conducted in the run-up to the election failed to catch, the Covid pandemic causing people who stayed home to answer the phone at a greater rate than those who did not follow restrictions, and the decline of social trust and faith in institutions.
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No doubt a bunch of cya, but wondering how much they'll dig into the movement of various ethnic constituencies toward trump (in small numbers but still).
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I keep hearing that a bunch of groups moved toward Trump in 2020, but initially I also heard that those numbers were based on in-person exit polls that would inevitably skew towards Trump, since Trump voters were more likely to vote in-person than by mail. Was that issue ever cleared up? The move towards Trump seems to have become conventional wisdom among those who talk about exit polls, but I've never heard anything one way or the other on whether that was based solely on in-person polling data.
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I think it tracks with tabulated vote totals in areas where ethnic makeup heavily leans towards a given ethnicity.
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Kolohe wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 14:26 I think it tracks with tabulated vote totals in areas where ethnic makeup heavily leans towards a given ethnicity.
Fair enough.

I guess they didn't get the intersectional memos or something.
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It still overall relatively small shifts, and a bit of a dead cat bounce effect included.
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Based on the evidence, Trump still has the GOP firmly on a leash and is not going to let go.

Based on the EC, the GOP has a built in advantage of 3 - 5% over polling data. Much as I hate the idea, Trump could be sworn in again on Jan 20, 2025.
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Aresen wrote: 13 Apr 2021, 15:37 Based on the evidence, Trump still has the GOP firmly on a leash and is not going to let go.

Based on the EC, the GOP has a built in advantage of 3 - 5% over polling data. Much as I hate the idea, Trump could be sworn in again on Jan 20, 2025.
It's early days, still. And one of the definite problems of relying on the yokeltariat for support is that they just don't have deep enough pockets, what with tithing to the local big box church and the ever rising price of crystal meth. If corporate contributions really do start to dry up as long as Trumpism is perceived as something those companies just don't want to be closely associated with, the money should start petering out in a few years.

Now, that said, if the Trumpsters score really, really big in 2022, well, all bets are off. But look on the bright side; Trump might not even be alive four years from now!
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