Whither the GOP? (post-Trump edition)

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Shem wrote: 10 Feb 2021, 16:55
But, he cautioned, it could also be the vocal “never Trump” reality simply coming into focus as Republicans finally took the step of changing their registration, even though they hadn’t supported the president and his party since 2016.
Why are so many people convinced this is Never-Trumpers leaving the party? It could just as easily be Dolchstoss Republicans leaving because they took Trump seriously when he said the only way he could lose is if the GOP let it happen.
There's no way to know how many people are changing their registration because the GOP went too far for Trump and how many changed their registration because the GOP didn't go too far enough. Just like there's no way to know how many people are saying it's one versus saying it's the other versus acknowledging the obvious reality that it's a mix of both.
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Serious talk of a #nevertrump third party
The early stage discussions include former elected Republicans, former officials in the Republican administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and Trump, ex-Republican ambassadors and Republican strategists, the people involved say.

More than 120 of them held a Zoom call last Friday to discuss the breakaway group, which would run on a platform of “principled conservatism,” including adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law - ideas those involved say have been trashed by Trump.

The plan would be to run candidates in some races but also to endorse center-right candidates in others, be they Republicans, independents or Democrats, the people say.
Names under consideration for a new party include the Integrity Party and the Center Right Party. If it is decided instead to form a faction, one name under discussion is the Center Right Republicans.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 11 Feb 2021, 11:01 Serious talk of a #nevertrump third party
The early stage discussions include former elected Republicans, former officials in the Republican administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and Trump, ex-Republican ambassadors and Republican strategists, the people involved say.

More than 120 of them held a Zoom call last Friday to discuss the breakaway group, which would run on a platform of “principled conservatism,” including adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law - ideas those involved say have been trashed by Trump.

The plan would be to run candidates in some races but also to endorse center-right candidates in others, be they Republicans, independents or Democrats, the people say.
Names under consideration for a new party include the Integrity Party and the Center Right Party. If it is decided instead to form a faction, one name under discussion is the Center Right Republicans.
I thought there was a 'Conservative Party' legally registered in the US already. Why not join them?
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It will be serious when they have actual money behind them. They don’t.

Every poll shows that the vast majority of Republicans are Trump loyalists, some despite what he’s done since the Nov 3 election, others because of it.
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Aresen wrote: 11 Feb 2021, 11:45
Hugh Akston wrote: 11 Feb 2021, 11:01 Serious talk of a #nevertrump third party
The early stage discussions include former elected Republicans, former officials in the Republican administrations of Ronald Reagan, George H.W. Bush, George W. Bush and Trump, ex-Republican ambassadors and Republican strategists, the people involved say.

More than 120 of them held a Zoom call last Friday to discuss the breakaway group, which would run on a platform of “principled conservatism,” including adherence to the Constitution and the rule of law - ideas those involved say have been trashed by Trump.

The plan would be to run candidates in some races but also to endorse center-right candidates in others, be they Republicans, independents or Democrats, the people say.
Names under consideration for a new party include the Integrity Party and the Center Right Party. If it is decided instead to form a faction, one name under discussion is the Center Right Republicans.
I thought there was a 'Conservative Party' legally registered in the US already. Why not join them?
There has never been a national party to use the word Conservative.

The Conservative Party USA is a PAC at best, and they're blindly pro-Trump.
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Bring back the Whigs?
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Jasper wrote: 11 Feb 2021, 13:51 Bring back the Whigs?
Not a bad idea. One conservative party can call themselves the Whigs, the other can call themselves the Combovers.
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Jasper wrote: 11 Feb 2021, 13:51 Bring back the Whigs?
Mike Pence said that could be a real drag.
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