Fragments of an avotoast anthropology

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Post by Hugh Akston » 11 Aug 2017, 12:24

'If there is hope,' wrote Winston, 'it lies in Generation X.'
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Post by dbcooper » 11 Aug 2017, 19:28

Which was more damaging to the arts: Gen-X's dopey obsession with "authenticity", or Millennial obsession with phony moral virtue?
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Post by dhex » 11 Aug 2017, 19:51

i just tried watching the trailer for empire records so...both are terrible.
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Post by JasonL » 11 Aug 2017, 21:27

I'm an anti authenticity xer and I'd say phony moral virtue has more traction outside of a narrow hipster type band that obsessed about authenticity. It's worse for that reason.

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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 14 Aug 2017, 10:26

dbcooper wrote:
11 Aug 2017, 19:28
Which was more damaging to the arts: Gen-X's dopey obsession with "authenticity", or Millennial obsession with phony moral virtue?
I'd say millennials are obsessed with both, and have an inflated sense of their own accomplishments and importance, a la boomers, so millennials as a whole are much worse.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 13 Mar 2018, 12:13

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Post by JasonL » 13 Mar 2018, 13:31

Preach canadian brothers. They are high earners with favorable market conditions but they are doing every single thing right to build wealth early and coast on compounding over time. Also, no kids, but house and car are forces of destruction far beyond what they are given credit for.

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Post by nicole » 13 Mar 2018, 14:18

At first I was like wait, if I have $500k I can retire? But then I saw that it was actually $1 million and also that they are only going to be living a $40k/year lifestyle forever and...it's a lot less attractive.
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Post by Warren » 13 Mar 2018, 14:22

nicole wrote:
13 Mar 2018, 14:18
At first I was like wait, if I have $500k I can retire? But then I saw that it was actually $1 million and also that they are only going to be living a $40k/year lifestyle forever and...it's a lot less attractive.
You can bump that to $60k/year fairly easy with a side hustle. Which I guess would just be a hustle.
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Also, no kids, but house and car are forces of destruction far beyond what they are given credit for.
I can see how you could burn cash in your car, but I think the value of personal transportation can pay its own way.
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Post by Jennifer » 13 Mar 2018, 14:40

I've never lived in a place where going carless was even a feasible option, if you wanted to live an ordinary non-recluse life.
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Post by JasonL » 13 Mar 2018, 15:14

Think not “no house, no car” necessarily, but more like “sharply limited house/rent and transportation costs when young”.

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Post by Dangerman » 13 Mar 2018, 16:22

When you don't work, your transportation costs go down.

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Post by Jennifer » 13 Mar 2018, 17:15

If they lived in America rather than Canada they'd also have to budget for their health insurance premiums, which would increase their monthly minimum outlay.
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Post by Mo » 13 Mar 2018, 21:00

If inflation ever rises above 2% or the market eats it, they’re kinda screwed. Retiring on $40k a year withdrawals from a $1M doesn’t leave a lot of room for white swans, let alone black ones.
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Post by JasonL » 13 Mar 2018, 22:49

They quit too soon for security yes. They aren’t worried about medical savings which US people should. But they are closer to being exactly where you’d want to be than most people.

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Post by Mo » 13 Mar 2018, 23:34

JasonL wrote:
13 Mar 2018, 22:49
They quit too soon for security yes. They aren’t worried about medical savings which US people should. But they are closer to being exactly where you’d want to be than most people.
For their age, they're way ahead of 98% of folks (with $1M in the bank). It's the stopping that's bonkers.
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