Orange is the new President

[Jadagul]

Sure. It's just true that there are some things which are protected from discovery by attorney-client privilege, and other things which are not.

But I'm assuming this entire strategy is in part an attempt to end-run discovery---that's why the lawyer is suing in his own name, and not in Trump's. I'm guessing the rest of the litigation strategy is also based around defeating discovery, and they're intending to claim attorney-client privilege on a bunch of things. (And possibly choosing the statements they're suing over to line up with what can be defended that way---at least, that's what I'd do if I were running strategy here).

[Pham Nuwen]

Sure. It's just true that there are some things which are protected from discovery by attorney-client privilege, and other things which are not.

But I'm assuming this entire strategy is in part an attempt to end-run discovery---that's why the lawyer is suing in his own name, and not in Trump's. I'm guessing the rest of the litigation strategy is also based around defeating discovery, and they're intending to claim attorney-client privilege on a bunch of things. (And possibly choosing the statements they're suing over to line up with what can be defended that way---at least, that's what I'd do if I were running strategy here).

I mean. Would you have standing to sue for defamation of someone else besides yourself? I don't get it.

[Jadagul]

Sure. It's just true that there are some things which are protected from discovery by attorney-client privilege, and other things which are not.

But I'm assuming this entire strategy is in part an attempt to end-run discovery---that's why the lawyer is suing in his own name, and not in Trump's. I'm guessing the rest of the litigation strategy is also based around defeating discovery, and they're intending to claim attorney-client privilege on a bunch of things. (And possibly choosing the statements they're suing over to line up with what can be defended that way---at least, that's what I'd do if I were running strategy here).

I mean. Would you have standing to sue for defamation of someone else besides yourself? I don't get it.

The question is why Trump's lawyer is suing for defamation of Trump's lawyer. Rather than, say, Trump suing for defamation of Trump. (Or, if you're worried about the issues of the President starting a lawsuit, then Kushner suing for defamation of Kushner or something).

Like, I assume that the decision for Cohen to sue Buzzfeed was something decided on with Trump---and not just Cohen getting personally pissed off. I suppose I could be wrong.

[Kolohe]

iirc, Cohen is named as one of the 'sources' in the dossier (I can't remember if its in the dossier itself, or in reporting on it), and he denies ever being in the location when one of the meetings supposedly took place.

[nicole]

thinky-face

[Aresen]

thinky-face

As long as Trump continues to twitter things that sound like what a sportsbar patron would say after the third drink, he cannot alienate his base.

[thoreau]

As long as Trump continues to twitter things that sound like what a sportsbar patron would say after the third drink, he cannot alienate his base.

America is truly a democracy.

Fuck.

[Mo]

I would hypothesize that the median African immigrant to the US is more educated and harder-working than the median Norwegian immigrant.

[JD]

I would hypothesize that the median African immigrant to the US is more educated and harder-working than the median Norwegian immigrant.

There's a fair amount of evidence showing that Black African immigrants to the US are more successful than native-born Black Americans. There are a lot of factors at work, of course.

[Mo]

Oh I know, it's because they are disproportionately the most educated, motivated and hard-working citizens looking to improve their life. I would hypothesize that immigrants from wealthy countries are more likely to be romantic dreamers looking for adventure, with a smaller proportion of self-motivated strivers.

[Mo]

Speaking of shitholes.

https://www.buzzfeed.com/mbvd/trumps-ma ... beXYWBre3x

[Pham Nuwen]

Did anyone see Phillip Mudd on CNN? Goddamn

[Mo]

Yeah, coming hard with the hammer. He said the N-word twice and Lemon didn't object either time.

[dhex]

man why the fuck would you say that particular word on tv?

[Mo]

He was just rolling at that point. https://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-c ... -shtholer/

[dhex]

Yeah but still

[nicole]

I was shocked enough earlier in the day when he mentioned wops and slant-eyes.

[Painboy]

He was just rolling at that point. https://www.mediaite.com/online/watch-c ... -shtholer/

From the article:

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?,” Trump reportedly said — referring to African countries, El Salvador, and Haiti.

Uhm....

[Mo]

From the article:

“Why are we having all these people from shithole countries come here?,” Trump reportedly said — referring to African countries, El Salvador, and Haiti.

Uhm....

What's the confusion? The Oxford comma saves the day.

[nicole]

The US ambassador to Haiti has resigned.

[dhex]

oxford comma saves erry day

[Kolohe]

The US ambassador to Haiti has resigned.

Is it the woman that's been there as an interim appointment when the last guy resigned as part of the change of adminstration (Robin Diallo) or is it the woman that Trump picked to be the 'real' ambassador, but doesn't appear to have shown up for the job yet? (Michele Sison)

the internet isn't clear.

eta - though they are both career foreign service officers.

[nicole]

The US ambassador to Haiti has resigned.

Is it the woman that's been there as an interim appointment when the last guy resigned as part of the change of adminstration (Robin Diallo) or is it the woman that Trump picked to be the 'real' ambassador, but doesn't appear to have shown up for the job yet? (Michele Sison)

the internet isn't clear.

eta - though they are both career foreign service officers.

yeah, was just coming back to say this is unclear

[Kolohe]

The internet now says it was the US Ambassador to Panama that resigned.

and also

[thoreau]