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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by lunchstealer » 23 Jan 2018, 16:00

I liked Adaptation, if for nothing other than Chris Cooper's character.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by JasonL » 23 Jan 2018, 16:03

Was it an adaptation?

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Andrew » 23 Jan 2018, 16:53

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
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If you don't like adaptations:

1. Die alone.
2. Don't ever watch adaptations.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Sandy » 23 Jan 2018, 17:46

lunchstealer wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 16:00
I liked Adaptation, if for nothing other than Chris Cooper's character.
Has Chris Cooper ever been unwatchable in anything? Genuine question.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by thoreau » 23 Jan 2018, 17:48

JasonL wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 15:14
thoreau wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 14:04
JasonL wrote:
D.A. Ridgely wrote:It doesn't matter how faithful or not the film adaptation is, my wife will still hate it because she simply can't accept any variance at all. The only entirely satisfactory film version would just run a scroll of the entire text of the novel start to finish.
I just learned my wife is like this with IT.
Yeah, there's a scene in that novel that no theater should ever show, even in pure text form.
I'm not sure it was the sewer thing per se, she kept saying they made stupid changes for no reason argh. I was at a bar and got like 20 texts of argh that night. I got the "i don't do horror movies" pass on watching it.
Having Beverly be captured after overcoming her fear was:
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by lunchstealer » 23 Jan 2018, 18:10

Sandy wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 17:46
lunchstealer wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 16:00
I liked Adaptation, if for nothing other than Chris Cooper's character.
Has Chris Cooper ever been unwatchable in anything? Genuine question.
He was annoying in something, but I can't remember what. Possibly because it was a left/Democrat morality play, but I can't recall which one. Not sure there, though.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 23 Jan 2018, 20:43

lunchstealer wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 18:10
Sandy wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 17:46
lunchstealer wrote:
23 Jan 2018, 16:00
I liked Adaptation, if for nothing other than Chris Cooper's character.
Has Chris Cooper ever been unwatchable in anything? Genuine question.
He was annoying in something, but I can't remember what. Possibly because it was a left/Democrat morality play, but I can't recall which one. Not sure there, though.
July Johnson in Lonesome Dove. Admittedly, it was probably more the character than him, personally, that I found annoying, but even at his best Cooper is one of those actors who could probably have been swapped out with any number of other second tier movie stars in most of his roles and it wouldn't really make much of a difference.

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Ellie » 29 Jan 2018, 22:13

A Futile and Stupid Gesture
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by the innominate one » 29 Jan 2018, 22:17

It's available on Netflix now.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Warren » 30 Jan 2018, 00:30

Ellie wrote:
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A Futile and Stupid Gesture
Doug Kenney Slipped Here.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 30 Jan 2018, 00:52

Warren wrote:
30 Jan 2018, 00:30
Ellie wrote:
29 Jan 2018, 22:13
A Futile and Stupid Gesture
Doug Kenney Slipped Here.
I enjoyed it, though there's a documentary(?) about the National Lampoon that covers much the same territory. And it spurred me to watch a few first season SNLs and ohmygawd they're mostly crap!

I was the exact target audience for National Lampoon in its first several years. It's another coulda, shoulda things with me. P.J. O'Rourke is to NL what Bill Murray is to SNL and he's just a year or two older than I am; I would at least have had a shot at freelancing for them if I'd had the gumption.

Oh well. Anyway, yeah, it's worth watching.

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Aresen » 14 Feb 2018, 23:30

I am looking forward to seeing The Death of Stalin when it releases in North America next month. However, there is so much hype surrounding it that I am preparing myself to be disappointed.

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On a side note, I am amused by the "Make Russia Great Again" types on the internet who are claiming a) that the movie is all lies, b) that Stalin saved Russia, c) that Stalin hardly killed anybody*, and d) reports of Stalin's crimes are Western Fabrications.

They are remarkably similar to Trumpers.

*Interestingly, this one is usually accompanied by arguments that he needed to be harsh.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Warren » 14 Feb 2018, 23:33

Did you just compare Donald Trump to Joseph Stalin?
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Aresen » 14 Feb 2018, 23:46

Warren wrote:
14 Feb 2018, 23:33
Did you just compare Donald Trump to Joseph Stalin?
Honestly, Warren, I didn't think of that implication until you pointed it out. That was not my intention.

I was comparing a certain mindset of unquestioning reverence for a leader/nation that is intolerant of doubt or question.

Jingoism is somewhat universal.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by thoreau » 15 Feb 2018, 12:15

Unlike Trump, Stalin actually stood up to the Nazis.

Eventually.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Sandy » 15 Feb 2018, 12:51

thoreau wrote:
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Unlike Trump, Stalin actually stood up to the Nazis.

Eventually.
Not only that, he outdid them.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 15 Feb 2018, 13:03

Aresen wrote:
14 Feb 2018, 23:30
On a side note, I am amused by the "Make Russia Great Again" types on the internet who are claiming a) that the movie is all lies, b) that Stalin saved Russia, c) that Stalin hardly killed anybody*, and d) reports of Stalin's crimes are Western Fabrications.
b) is true though. At that point it may be that only Stalin could have saved Russia. It is also true that had he not liquidated the senior officers in 1937, the Soviet Union might have "liberated" Europe, permanently, all the way to Lisbon by 1943.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by JasonL » 15 Feb 2018, 16:31

I would look askance at the nature of the thing Russia became after being "saved". In the sense that it was a sovereign political entity, I guess. In the sense that the things of value were preserved? Hardly. It became a horror show.

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 15 Feb 2018, 16:35

JasonL wrote:
15 Feb 2018, 16:31
I would look askance at the nature of the thing Russia became after being "saved". In the sense that it was a sovereign political entity, I guess. In the sense that the things of value were preserved? Hardly. It became a horror show.
Became a horror show? The worst time under Stalin was before the war and during. And living under totalitarianism beats getting liquidated by other totalitarians.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by JasonL » 15 Feb 2018, 16:44

FFS FFF, the best day under stalin is really really bad dude.

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 15 Feb 2018, 16:49

JasonL wrote:
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FFS FFF, the best day under stalin is really really bad dude.
Look, the Soviet Union did two impressive things: universal literacy and crushing the Nazis. The second likely would not have happened had Stalin been removed during the initial phase of the war.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by JasonL » 15 Feb 2018, 16:58

HE'S JUST AS BAD AS THE GUY HE BEAT.

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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 15 Feb 2018, 17:00

JasonL wrote:
15 Feb 2018, 16:58
HE'S JUST AS BAD AS THE GUY HE BEAT.
Yeah, no. As bad as Stalin was, he wasn't planning on slowly starving off the entire population of Eastern Europe over several decades.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by thoreau » 15 Feb 2018, 17:03

My understanding is that he was slightly less shitty to his people after the war. Maybe because he was getting old and losing his touch, maybe because his people had acquired all sorts of habits during the war, maybe because he was busy oppressing the newly-acquired territories, or maybe because they had the resources of their newly-acquired territories and life was looking up a bit. It's possible to recognize these distinctions and say that the Russians were better off for winning that war than they would have been losing that war.

The people of Eastern Europe, of course, would have been better off under Western occupation. That's a given. But one can recognize that the people of Russia got a better outcome winning than they would have gotten losing, even while recognizing that Stalin as a person was every bit as evil as Hitler was as a person.
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Re: I may want to see that?

Post by Sandy » 15 Feb 2018, 17:03

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
15 Feb 2018, 17:00
JasonL wrote:
15 Feb 2018, 16:58
HE'S JUST AS BAD AS THE GUY HE BEAT.
Yeah, no. As bad as Stalin was, he wasn't planning on slowly starving off the entire population of Eastern Europe over several decades.
He had already starved out the population of much of Ukraine over just a couple of years, so...yay for being quick?
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