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Music for the Masses

Post by the innominate one » 15 Sep 2011, 19:06

Not to be limited to Depeche Mode by any means.

Music you like, for those of a slightly less...adventurous, shall we say, sense of musical sensibility than dhex and dbcooper. Styx, yes. grindcore (whatever that is), no. Zappa, even. Stravinsky's Rite of Spring (which I quite like) should be the outer (or perhaps the outre) limit.

Here's a song with a good beat and you can dance to it, Dick. I give it an 8.

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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by JasonL » 15 Sep 2011, 19:29

Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.

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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Andrew » 15 Sep 2011, 19:31

JasonL wrote:Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.
We're gonna need a bigger boat thread for that one.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by the innominate one » 15 Sep 2011, 19:31

All of them collectively, or any ones in particular? It's Ringo, isn't it?
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Hugh Akston » 15 Sep 2011, 19:36

JasonL wrote:Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.
How do you feel about Elvis?
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by JasonL » 15 Sep 2011, 19:37

Hugh Akston wrote:
JasonL wrote:Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.
How do you feel about Elvis?
Meh+

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Post by dhex » 15 Sep 2011, 19:40

JasonL wrote:Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.
i'm with you on that, though i don't hate them, just don't care for them.

elvis is ok enough. that junkie xl "cover" of "a little less conversation" needs to die in a fire.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by JasonL » 15 Sep 2011, 19:55

This should perhaps be admitted only in Other Places, but ... It doesn't seem like enough to avoid listening to them. I want to build an empire so I ca sell it all and use the funds to construct a time machine so I can slap them with those haircuts doing that head bob.

Is that wrong?

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Post by dbcooper » 15 Sep 2011, 19:59

JasonL wrote:This should perhaps be admitted only in Other Places, but ... It doesn't seem like enough to avoid listening to them. I want to build an empire so I ca sell it all and use the funds to construct a time machine so I can slap them with those haircuts doing that head bob.

Is that wrong?
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Rachel » 15 Sep 2011, 20:53

JasonL wrote:Random MFTM thought - I have never been able to explain my hatred for the Beatles.
I also hate the Beatles. Partially out of spite.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by dbcooper » 15 Sep 2011, 21:37

Some Gene Clark:







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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 15 Sep 2011, 21:45

I think I'd be okay with the Beatles if it wasn't for those kinds of Beatles fans that won't shut about them. The UNC/Duke fans of the music world.
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Post by Sandy » 15 Sep 2011, 23:54

The fans, yeah, but they just don't play their instruments or sing well. And not in a "purposefully ironically bad" a la insert-90s-pseudogrunge-here but in a "We think we're awesome!" kind of way. When I hear their music covered by others, it's often not bad. Though everything from their bubble gum days is pretty much dead to me.
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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 16 Sep 2011, 00:00

Sandy wrote:The fans, yeah, but they just don't play their instruments or sing well. And not in a "purposefully ironically bad" a la insert-90s-pseudogrunge-here but in a "We think we're awesome!" kind of way. When I hear their music covered by others, it's often not bad. Though everything from their bubble gum days is pretty much dead to me.
In terms of okayness, I mean being okay with rather than moderate dislike. I have a greatest hits album of theirs and listening to it was a chore. Them and U2. Boring. (except Sunday, Bloody Sunday. I like that one.)

Also, I remember the factoid that ABBA outsold the Beatles (while ABBA was still together, the Beatles have outsold them since). This strikes me as proper, as ABBA actually has some fun songs.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Highway » 16 Sep 2011, 00:14

The Beatles are kinda eh, for me. They have a lot of good songwriting, but I think being by "The Beatles!" weighs all the songs down with tons of baggage about, well, The Beatles. So you can't just listen to the song, you have to do all this analysis, and thinking about when they made it and blah blah blah (and that goes back to those fans).

I love ABBA. Their Greatest Hits albums were some of the first albums I got. I like their songs even more now, understanding some of them better, like The Winner Takes It All, and hearing more of their kinda cheesier songs, like When I Kissed the Teacher and I Am the City.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by fyodor » 16 Sep 2011, 02:38

I'm one of those Beatles fans, except I rarely talk about it (except to my sig ot, pity her soul).

I know what you mean about shit like that ruining it for you. The very first time I heard the Talking Heads it was when a friend told me about them and he told me they were geniuses before he even put the record on and he was bragging about how good their sound was for a first record and it all annoyed me so much I've never been able to listen to them objectively since.

The Beatles mythos adds to their shtick for me. But then, I got into it on my own. Or at least thought I did, heh.

I like it that the Taliban identified them as the beginning of the downfall of Western Civilization.

But whatever, hate -- or meh -- away. Y'all sure don't have to think the same as me or anyone else. But then, that's why I hate talking about music, especially in a group like this. It's like talking politics with Reds or Blues. You gotta have something to connect on before it's even worth it. With all we disagree with politically or on whatever social issues, we have a few certain connections that make it worth it to at least have the discussion. Worth it in a personally satisfying way, not having an effect on the world way. But music, aesthetics? It's all hit and miss at best here.

A lot of people who know me would probably be surprised I like the Beatles a lot, since I play punk rock and feature homemade experimental and outsider stuff on my radio show. (I dabble in the genre known as "noise".) A lot of those same people would be surprised I watch and follow the Denver Broncos, too (gawd they wretch). Oh well, can't worry about that.

For simple agreeable ear candy, I love girl groups of the early sixties. And all the old shit from the 50's and 60's, like what they play on WFMU. It's fucking amazing how much obscure stuff they can play from that era(s?) that I really love that I'd never heard of before. And a lot of the popular stuff from then too, I like a lot. Sometimes I think the Beatles ruined pop music by amping it up the way they did. Well they didn't do it by themselves of course. But they kinda started it. Well barf and/or close your ears to them on my account. Just sayin' what I think. But it's true enough I often think I like the pop music from before them the most. And shortly after, too.

Oh well, whatever. Carry on.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Stevo Darkly » 16 Sep 2011, 05:34

Music for the Masses, eh? ;)


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Post by Kolohe » 16 Sep 2011, 06:53

fyodor wrote:I like it that the Taliban identified them as the beginning of the downfall of Western Civilization.
I thought it was William F Buckley, Jr.?
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Highway » 16 Sep 2011, 07:53

A song I heard on a replay of American Top 40 (they play one every sunday night on the local Jack FM station) that I hadn't heard when it was out, but found really catchy and interesting. It's a lot like their other more popular songs tho.

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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Jasper » 16 Sep 2011, 09:55

So fyodor was just a schoolboy when he heard his first Beatles' song?
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Warty » 16 Sep 2011, 10:40

Almost all of my music is instantly disqualified from this thread, but I always liked The Afghan Whigs.


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Post by tr0g » 16 Sep 2011, 11:12

I'm not sure what qualifies or disqualifies music from this thread. Is my collection of Collide and Switchblade Symphony too obscure? Are we limiting to stuff played on the radio?

Anyhow, I will confess a sneaking fondness for all kinds of horrible pop music. Gordon Lightfoot, Ace Of Base, and Katy Perry are three that come to mind immediately. I gave up trying to worry about my horribly indiscriminate taste in music years ago. As a result, there's something for almost everyone in my music collection.

Side note: I broke down and got a new 160gB iPod. I can fit the entire ripped collection on it right now. Being able to take my music collection everywhere I go is definitely the future I was promised.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Highway » 16 Sep 2011, 12:09

Gordon Lightfoot's "If You Could Read My Mind" just has a wonderful emotional content to it. It just seems so "It's over, we tried, and it just won't work, and there's no sugar-coating or ignoring it."

I think everyone has a music collection like that. Those things that people call 'guilty pleasures', that there's really no reason to be guilty about! If you like it, you like it. And you might like one song by a group, and not want to listen to absolutely everything else they do. I listen to so much 'bad music'. But I like it.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Jasper » 16 Sep 2011, 13:53

Agreed Highway. I've got a number of John Denver songs in my playlists because they bring me back to when I was a kid riding around in the back of a station wagon packed with camping gear and cousins and summer was endless.
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Re: Music for the Masses

Post by Stevo Darkly » 16 Sep 2011, 14:56

Jasper wrote:So fyodor was just a schoolboy when he heard his first Beatles' song?
"Love Me Do" I think it was. And from there it didn't take him long.
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