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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2019, 15:59

nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Because that's how singular they has been used since at least Chauncer's day.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Oct 2019, 16:04

I have to admit, I think I'd rather use the awful xe/xir/xem/xeir pronouns that the poster doesn't show than try to Bob Dole people.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 18 Oct 2019, 16:13

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 15:59
nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Because that's how singular they has been used since at least Chauncer's day.
Back when they didn't even spell-check proper names!

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Andrew » 18 Oct 2019, 22:37

Slagathor confused by complicated pronouns.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Pham Nuwen » 19 Oct 2019, 10:52

Andrew wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 22:37
Slagathor confused by complicated pronouns.
Slagathor slagathored by slagathored slagathors?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Warren » 19 Oct 2019, 11:11

Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Oct 2019, 10:52
Andrew wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 22:37
Slagathor confused by complicated pronouns.
Slagathor slagathored by slagathored slagathors?
Exslagathorly.
Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 16:04
I have to admit, I think I'd rather use the awful xe/xir/xem/xeir pronouns that the poster doesn't show than try to Bob Dole people.
Those are covered under "Ze/hir/hirs ...and many more!"
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 19 Oct 2019, 20:10

"and the rest..." didn't cut it for the Professor and Mary Ann, Warren, and it doesn't cut it for pronoun sets. ;)

Given how long I used new-style Spivak pronouns for gender-indeterminate uses, I don't at all mind neopronouns, I just have aesthetic criticisms of some of the sets.

(I forget why I did new-style, as the e/em/eir Spivak with singular conjugation is the one that appeals to me, lately. Singular they is right there, though.)
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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 20 Oct 2019, 12:48

We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
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Post by Aresen » 20 Oct 2019, 12:58

thoreau wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:48
We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
Hasn't English generally simplified grammar over the last few centuries? We've dropped thee/thou/thine.

I propose we blend all third person singular pronouns thus: shit/shim/shis.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 20 Oct 2019, 13:22

Shim? Is there a possessive like say ... shem?
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Post by Hugh Akston » 21 Oct 2019, 13:09

Poll: Which politician nom de tweet is better: Carlos Danger or Pierre Delecto?
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Post by dhex » 21 Oct 2019, 16:54

Goddamn 2019 quit hogging the drugs.
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Post by Kolohe » 23 Oct 2019, 10:39

thoreau wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:48
We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
Chinese 'he' and 'she' are pronounced the same, but spelled differently. 他 vs 她
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JD » 23 Oct 2019, 10:47

thoreau wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:48
We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
Finnish, too; they only have hän. And Estonian (which is pretty close to Finnish, IIRC).
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Post by thoreau » 23 Oct 2019, 11:19

Quenya is supposed to be inspired (in part) by Finnish.
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Post by Ellie » 23 Oct 2019, 11:23

thoreau wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:48
We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
ASL, also!
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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 23 Oct 2019, 11:26

Ellie wrote:
23 Oct 2019, 11:23
thoreau wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 12:48
We should just use a language that doesn't have separate male and female pronouns. Sumerian, Hittite, Chinese, and Quenya all fit the bill.
ASL, also!
But does it have any connections to Quenya? Finnish does, so Finnish is obviously better.

Now, if you wanted to use BSL (Beleriand Sign Language) that would be different.

Interestingly, Entish does have different words for "him" and "her", but the difference doesn't show up until the 80th syllable.
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Post by Ellie » 23 Oct 2019, 12:01

Episcopal Twitter: last week, a pastor explaining her interpretation of Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well as Jesus trying to bone her. (Thirsty Jesus as thirsty Jesus, she explains.) Twitter being Twitter took it up a notch this week, pointing out that while she called it a consensual encounter, the inherent power dynamic between the parties meant Jesus was a harasser.
And she’s like, I don’t think your bucket is big enough for my well. But she’s softening up a little. And he’s like, you have no idea how I could get your well gushing.

... He says “I know you’re a naughty, slutty girl,” but she takes that the wrong way, and there’s a little bit of an argument here.

Somehow the argument resolves, something about worshipping his mountain, and she runs off to tell her friends about him.
We have this problem every time we use erotic desire as a metaphor for the relationship between humans and the Divine. Can any human truly consent to a sexual encounter with God? The power dynamic would seem to make it impossible.

... To anyone who was triggered or harmed by my presentation of Jesus you experienced as a harasser, I am deeply sorry.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Aresen » 23 Oct 2019, 15:16

Ellie wrote:
23 Oct 2019, 12:01
Episcopal Twitter: last week, a pastor explaining her interpretation of Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well as Jesus trying to bone her. (Thirsty Jesus as thirsty Jesus, she explains.) Twitter being Twitter took it up a notch this week, pointing out that while she called it a consensual encounter, the inherent power dynamic between the parties meant Jesus was a harasser.
And she’s like, I don’t think your bucket is big enough for my well. But she’s softening up a little. And he’s like, you have no idea how I could get your well gushing.

... He says “I know you’re a naughty, slutty girl,” but she takes that the wrong way, and there’s a little bit of an argument here.

Somehow the argument resolves, something about worshipping his mountain, and she runs off to tell her friends about him.
We have this problem every time we use erotic desire as a metaphor for the relationship between humans and the Divine. Can any human truly consent to a sexual encounter with God? The power dynamic would seem to make it impossible.

... To anyone who was triggered or harmed by my presentation of Jesus you experienced as a harasser, I am deeply sorry.
Oh, internets.
Yeah? What about his dad going after young virgins?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 23 Oct 2019, 15:16

Aresen wrote:
23 Oct 2019, 15:16
Ellie wrote:
23 Oct 2019, 12:01
Episcopal Twitter: last week, a pastor explaining her interpretation of Jesus and the Samaritan woman at the well as Jesus trying to bone her. (Thirsty Jesus as thirsty Jesus, she explains.) Twitter being Twitter took it up a notch this week, pointing out that while she called it a consensual encounter, the inherent power dynamic between the parties meant Jesus was a harasser.
And she’s like, I don’t think your bucket is big enough for my well. But she’s softening up a little. And he’s like, you have no idea how I could get your well gushing.

... He says “I know you’re a naughty, slutty girl,” but she takes that the wrong way, and there’s a little bit of an argument here.

Somehow the argument resolves, something about worshipping his mountain, and she runs off to tell her friends about him.
We have this problem every time we use erotic desire as a metaphor for the relationship between humans and the Divine. Can any human truly consent to a sexual encounter with God? The power dynamic would seem to make it impossible.

... To anyone who was triggered or harmed by my presentation of Jesus you experienced as a harasser, I am deeply sorry.
Oh, internets.
Yeah? What about his dad going after young virgins?
Well, there were no old virgins, so....

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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 25 Oct 2019, 17:30

Pham Nuwen wrote:
20 Oct 2019, 13:22
Shim? Is there a possessive like say ... shem?
WE ARE ALL POSSESSED OF THE SHEM IN OUR OWN WAY
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Post by Warren » 25 Oct 2019, 23:29

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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 27 Oct 2019, 02:59

I haven't tweeted that much with my new account, and I had not previously used it to interact with Nicole Cliffe. Nonetheless, when someone I'm following quoted her I learned that I am blocked from viewing Nicole Cliffe's tweets.

I am baffled what I could have done to offend her.
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Post by dbcooper » 27 Oct 2019, 03:26

thoreau wrote:
27 Oct 2019, 02:59
I haven't tweeted that much with my new account, and I had not previously used it to interact with Nicole Cliffe. Nonetheless, when someone I'm following quoted her I learned that I am blocked from viewing Nicole Cliffe's tweets.

I am baffled what I could have done to offend her.
You probably follow someone that her blocklist uses as a blocking criterion.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 27 Oct 2019, 05:44

There's a lot of auto-blocking going around.
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