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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 16 Oct 2019, 14:07

thoreau wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:23
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
A linguistic descriptivist would say that the word "pronoun" now refers only to third-person pronouns.

A linguistic prescriptivist would not say anything because they'd be too busy searching for a bridge to jump off.
Dammit linguistic prescriptivist we've talked about this before. If someone needs to die due to stupidity, it's not the observer of the stupidity.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 16 Oct 2019, 15:37

Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit? Are they to substitute other nouns about that person and that person's weird preferences?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JasonL » 16 Oct 2019, 15:41

Nobody should ever talk to or about that person for any reason. Problem solved.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 16 Oct 2019, 15:48

lunchstealer wrote:
15 Oct 2019, 23:22
Why not keep spot. Call it a dead spot.
On one hand Merriam-Webster claims that's actually an alternate meaning for the phrase. On the other hand, it's much more commonly used to talk about bad acoustics or patches of dead grass.

I just wonder how "double-blind study" would get renamed. "Everybody-dies study"?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JD » 16 Oct 2019, 15:51

Eric the .5b wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:37
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit? Are they to substitute other nouns about that person and that person's weird preferences?
I would just refer to that person as "no" from then on. No posted something dumb on Twitter today; I have lost all respect for no; etc. (I'm pretty sure there's a no means no joke in there somewhere.)
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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 16 Oct 2019, 15:52

JasonL wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:41
Nobody should ever talk to or about that person for any reason. Problem solved.
Sage thinking.

Although the solution is not as permanent as the find-a-bridge-to-jump-off-of-except-it's-not-the-linguistic-prescriptivist-who-falls-and-it's-by-pushing-not-jumping solution.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 16 Oct 2019, 15:53

JD wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:51
Eric the .5b wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:37
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit? Are they to substitute other nouns about that person and that person's weird preferences?
I would just refer to that person as "no" from then on. No posted something dumb on Twitter today; I have lost all respect for no; etc. (I'm pretty sure there's a no means no joke in there somewhere.)
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Jadagul » 16 Oct 2019, 16:04

nicole wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:28
thoreau wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:23
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
A linguistic descriptivist would say that the word "pronoun" now refers only to third-person pronouns.

A linguistic prescriptivist would not say anything because they'd be too busy searching for a bridge to jump off.
Only to third-person pro-anythings, since people call “his” and “their” pronouns now as well.
Haven't people always called "his" and "their" pronouns?

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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 16 Oct 2019, 16:13

Jadagul wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 16:04
nicole wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:28
thoreau wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:23
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
A linguistic descriptivist would say that the word "pronoun" now refers only to third-person pronouns.

A linguistic prescriptivist would not say anything because they'd be too busy searching for a bridge to jump off.
Only to third-person pro-anythings, since people call “his” and “their” pronouns now as well.
Haven't people always called "his" and "their" pronouns?
Probably, but they probably weren’t calling them anything as often as they are now.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Number 6 » 16 Oct 2019, 16:53

https://english.stackexchange.com/quest ... -a-pronoun


I prefer possessive adjective for her/him. He and she are clearly pronouns.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 16 Oct 2019, 16:59

They're pronouns. That they function as adjectives is irrelevant because in "John's book" "John" is still a noun, a proper noun used adjectivally and "His" merely replaces the noun, not the function the noun is performing.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 16 Oct 2019, 17:15

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Number 6 » 16 Oct 2019, 17:40

I swear, if we get into another grammar fight, I'm going to kill a fetus.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Warren » 16 Oct 2019, 19:46

Number 6 wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 17:40
I swear, if we get into another grammar fight, I'm going to kill a fetus.
Can I pick the fetus?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by dhex » 17 Oct 2019, 06:10

Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
I had no idea Bob dole had dysmorphia.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 18 Oct 2019, 10:52

"They were basically like D&D min maxers, but instead of pissing off their DM, they destroyed the global economy. Also, instead of their DM making a level 7 paladin fight a beholder as punishment, he got a +3 sword of turning."
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Ellie » 18 Oct 2019, 11:58

Eric the .5b wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:37
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 18 Oct 2019, 12:06

It's too bad that Norm MacDonald was cancelled, because his Norm MacDonald's Bob Dole impression would be perfect for this cultural moment.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Warren » 18 Oct 2019, 12:12

Ellie wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 11:58
Eric the .5b wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:37
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 18 Oct 2019, 12:33

Ellie wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 11:58
Eric the .5b wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 15:37
Ellie wrote:
16 Oct 2019, 13:18
Spotted on Twitter today, and posted with no apparent irony: "#PronounsDay I'm non binary and I prefer no pronouns"
Even beyond using two in that sentence, how is that supposed to work? Are people to just repeat Unnamed Twit's name every time they refer to Unnamed Twit or things relevant to Unnamed Twit?
Today the Minnesota Council of Nonprofits taught me that yes, that's how it works.

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If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 18 Oct 2019, 12:35

If pronouns aren't associated with gender expression, why would "preferred pronouns" suggest gender is a preference?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Ellie » 18 Oct 2019, 13:11

nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Same reason, I guess, it's "because you were hungry" whether you're talking to one person or two.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 18 Oct 2019, 13:26

Ellie wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 13:11
nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Same reason, I guess, it's "because you were hungry" whether you're talking to one person or two.
Were and was and is and are are all temporalist and plurist. Xena be hungry is the only acceptable form.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Warren » 18 Oct 2019, 14:24

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 13:26
Ellie wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 13:11
nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Same reason, I guess, it's "because you were hungry" whether you're talking to one person or two.
Were and was and is and are are all temporalist and plurist. Xena be hungry is the only acceptable form.
Why not just do away with the existential verb altogether? "Xenea ate their food because they hungry"
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Re: Twitter!

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 18 Oct 2019, 14:43

Warren wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 14:24
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 13:26
Ellie wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 13:11
nicole wrote:
18 Oct 2019, 12:33
If "they/them" are used for singular, why isn't it "because they was hungry"?
Same reason, I guess, it's "because you were hungry" whether you're talking to one person or two.
Were and was and is and are are all temporalist and plurist. Xena be hungry is the only acceptable form.
Why not just do away with the existential verb altogether? "Xenea ate eat their food because they hungry"
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