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Re: Twitter!

Post by Andrew » 26 Jul 2018, 08:58

nicole wrote:
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can't stop reading Q Anon threads, please send help
Q Anon?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 26 Jul 2018, 09:13

Andrew wrote:
26 Jul 2018, 08:58
nicole wrote:
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can't stop reading Q Anon threads, please send help
Q Anon?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by dbcooper » 26 Jul 2018, 09:18

prospector88 is so far ahead of all other irony accounts.

Slip inside a sleeping bag.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Ellie » 26 Jul 2018, 13:38

Mo wrote:
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Best of Nextdoor is amazing.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JD » 27 Jul 2018, 15:13

I usually hate Twitter, but the GermanQuatsch one is pretty cool; it's all about German idioms and wordplay. ("Quatsch" means "nonsense", BTW)
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 27 Jul 2018, 18:32

SJW...earplugs.

I hope I didn't need what just leaked out of my ear.
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Well, they're supposedly rebooting She-Ra...
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Re: Twitter!

Post by tr0g » 31 Jul 2018, 21:41

Lot of bad lesbianism going around, apparently.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Ellie » 31 Jul 2018, 21:59

Oh, thank goodness, it's not just me! :lol: :lol: :lol:
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 01 Aug 2018, 11:15

I think part of what made me realize that we're in the midst of a no-holds-barred class war is understanding how much more successful businesses would be if we had universal healthcare and a higher minimum wage
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Kolohe » 01 Aug 2018, 11:22

There's a case to be made that if employment was completely decoupled from health care, both businesses and employees (and potential businesses and potential employees) would be a lot better off.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JasonL » 01 Aug 2018, 12:30

Yes but that’s some disingenuous nonsense in the tweet. Or dumb. Both.

The reasons we don’t have single payer - 1) sticker shock to taxpayers not just rich ones; 2) income shock to providers. Not 3) companies waging class war.

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Post by lunchstealer » 01 Aug 2018, 12:55

JasonL wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 12:30
Yes but that’s some disingenuous nonsense in the tweet. Or dumb. Both.

The reasons we don’t have single payer - 1) sticker shock to taxpayers not just rich ones; 2) income shock to providers. Not 3) companies waging class war.
I think there's also a healthy dose of 4) I built a lot of my identity around congratulating myself for my self-reliance and anti-communism and this smacks of state-reliance and socialism so not fighting this would mean I don't believe what I tell people I believe and that is the one thing my psyche cannot tolerate; 5) I'm okay right now and can't imagine not being okay so those people just want to take from me.

Am I right that a bunch of Western universal healthcare schemes in their modern incarnations in the aftermath of WWII where 5) was false for huge swaths of the population? The US didn't have that massive economic shock following WWII. I don't think Canada did either, but they had closer ties to the UK where the move towards universal healthcare was following that trend.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Mo » 01 Aug 2018, 17:55

I still think that something like a public option with buy in kills single payer for a long while and essentially gives us Germany system.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JasonL » 01 Aug 2018, 20:11

The big thing is the realization that you don’t get broad coverage with just taxing rich people. I can’t tell you how many people I talked to who really thought the ACA penalty was more expensive to them than berniecare would be. They just don’t get how high taxes are on all bands in their pet countries.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by Aresen » 01 Aug 2018, 20:36

JasonL wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:11
The big thing is the realization that you don’t get broad coverage with just taxing rich people. I can’t tell you how many people I talked to who really thought the ACA penalty was more expensive to them than berniecare would be. They just don’t get how high taxes are on all bands in their pet countries.
A lot of people compare US federal tax rates
Tax rate Single Head of household
10% Up to $9,325 Up to $13,350
15% $9,326 to $37,950 $13,351 to $50,800
25% $37,951 to $91,900 $50,801 to $131,200
28% $91,901 to $191,650 $131,201 to $212,500
33% $191,651 to $416,700 $212,501 to $416,700
35% $416,701 to $418,400 $416,701 to $444,550
39.6% $418,401 or more $444,551 or more

with Canadian Federal Income Tax Rates

15% on the first $46,605 of taxable income,*
20.5% on the next $46,603 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 46,605 up to $93,208), +
26% on the next $51,281 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over $93,208 up to $144,489), +
29% on the next $61,353 of taxable income (on the portion of taxable income over 144,489 up to $205,842), +
33% of taxable income over $205,842.
*note the first $11k is not taxable.

without adding in Canadian Provincial Tax Rates, which are considerably higher than US State Tax Rates (typically, Canadian Provincial Taxes run 50 to 60% of the Federal Income Tax.

British Columbia, at the lower end of the provincial spectrum, has the following rates:
Taxable Income - 2018 Brackets Tax Rate
$0 to $39,676 5.06%
$39,676.01 to $79,353 7.70%
$79,353.01 to $91,107 10.50%
$91,107.01 to $110,630 12.29%
$110,630.01 to $150,000 14.70%
Over $150,000 16.80%

California currently has the highest US marginal rate at 13.3%
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Re: Twitter!

Post by thoreau » 01 Aug 2018, 20:50

This country can't have several carrier groups AND national health care. We can have one or the other, but not both.

That's not an ideological statement, or a policy preference, or anything else. That's arithmetic.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Aresen » 01 Aug 2018, 20:55

thoreau wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:50
This country can't have several carrier groups AND national health care. We can have one or the other, but not both.

That's not an ideological statement, or a policy preference, or anything else. That's arithmetic.
Oh, the US can. Congress would just have to put income taxes up to Israeli levels. (And figure out how to get away from the lynch mob.)
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Re: Twitter!

Post by JasonL » 01 Aug 2018, 22:03

Our effective tax rates are much lower than the stated brackets even.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by JD » 02 Aug 2018, 13:46

Kolohe wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 11:22
There's a case to be made that if employment was completely decoupled from health care, both businesses and employees (and potential businesses and potential employees) would be a lot better off.
This has been one of my main points for a long time. Over the last century or so, the federal government has made a bunch of decisions that have had the effect of tying employment to healthcare, mostly without that specific intent. During WWII, the US imposed wage controls, which led to employers offering non-wage benefits like health insurance, and then the IRS decided to make that benefit tax-free. On top of any other reason that insurers might prefer to do business with companies than with individuals, this gave a huge cost advantage to employer-paid health insurance...and then you are in a situation where the patient is not actually the insurance customer and has pretty much no leverage.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 02 Aug 2018, 14:37

take re jeong
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 02 Aug 2018, 15:21

NYT shouldn't fire Jeong for her tweets if only because she will be the only regular op-ed writer in the entire English speaking world who has ever written anything worth reading.

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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 02 Aug 2018, 16:29

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 15:21
NYT shouldn't fire Jeong for her tweets if only because she will be the only regular op-ed writer in the entire English speaking world who has ever written anything worth reading.
She's not going to write op-eds; she'll be contributing to unsigned editorials.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 02 Aug 2018, 17:16

thoreau wrote:
01 Aug 2018, 20:50
This country can't have several carrier groups AND national health care. We can have one or the other, but not both.

That's not an ideological statement, or a policy preference, or anything else. That's arithmetic.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Eric the .5b » 02 Aug 2018, 17:27

This other tweet from the "unfathomable" guy:
Democrats and DSA: Let's debate adopting taxation and welfare policies currently in place in other developed countries

Fox hosts: VENEZUELA!!!

D/DSA: well, that's not "democratic" social...

Fox hosts: DO YOU REMEMBER STALIN YOU MONSTERS
...reminds me of Joe from LOL and all his efforts to defend the honor of the Venezuelan leadership, then of Venezuelan democracy, back in the Aughts.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by Aresen » 02 Aug 2018, 17:41

Eric the .5b wrote:
02 Aug 2018, 17:27
This other tweet from the "unfathomable" guy:
Democrats and DSA: Let's debate adopting taxation and welfare policies currently in place in other developed countries

Fox hosts: VENEZUELA!!!

D/DSA: well, that's not "democratic" social...

Fox hosts: DO YOU REMEMBER STALIN YOU MONSTERS
...reminds me of Joe from LOL and all his efforts to defend the honor of the Venezuelan leadership, then of Venezuelan democracy, back in the Aughts.
Oddly, I was arguing the other day with a lefty friend about how Venezuelans really did vote themselves into the current mess.
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