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Re: Twitter!

Post by Kolohe » 08 Oct 2017, 19:20

the innominate one wrote:
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Sandy: please explain tankie.
Apologists for the Soviet Union who defend sending sending tanks into Hungary in 56 and Czechoslovakia in 68.
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Post by Kolohe » 08 Oct 2017, 19:22

And on the other thing John Vance Garner was FDRs VP who said "The Vice Presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss" (or some versions have bucket of warm spit)
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 19:27

Kolohe wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:22
And on the other thing John Vance Garner was FDRs VP who said "The Vice Presidency isn't worth a pitcher of warm piss" (or some versions have bucket of warm spit)
WTF? What other thing? What is "tankie" alluding to? What are you guys talking about?
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 19:27

lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 18:16
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 17:13
the innominate one wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 12:37
So he's just trolling?
I think Trump Derangement Syndrome is really spreading across the right. I haven't really figured it all out, but they're so knee jerk in their anti-left thing that they are starting to apologize for fascists just to spite the left, and then drinking their own koolaid about it.
TDS afflicts the left and manifests in the need to attribute all manner of evil to, and over demonize the actions of, DJT. The inverse of that, namely justifying and supporting the POTUS, even at his most outrageous, while denigrating the left, is bog standard Sports Barism, albeit in this case a rather extreem form of it.

But D'Souza's Brownshirt tweet doesn't do any of that. It's not in service of the POTUS and it isn't an attack on the left. It's just Froot Loops.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by the innominate one » 08 Oct 2017, 19:33

Thanks for the explanation, Kolohe.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 08 Oct 2017, 19:42

Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:27
lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 18:16
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 17:13
the innominate one wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 12:37
So he's just trolling?
I think Trump Derangement Syndrome is really spreading across the right. I haven't really figured it all out, but they're so knee jerk in their anti-left thing that they are starting to apologize for fascists just to spite the left, and then drinking their own koolaid about it.
TDS afflicts the left and manifests in the need to attribute all manner of evil to, and over demonize the actions of, DJT. The inverse of that, namely justifying and supporting the POTUS, even at his most outrageous, while denigrating the left, is bog standard Sports Barism, albeit in this case a rather extreem form of it.

But D'Souza's Brownshirt tweet doesn't do any of that. It's not in service of the POTUS and it isn't an attack on the left. It's just Froot Loops.
Naw. TDS afflicts left and right, and manifests differently in the right. In the right, it's previously kinda reasonable people throwing all common sense and basic human decency to the wind in favor of #MAGA lunacy. Part of that is embracing wackadoo bullshit that they previously wouldn't be caught dead within 100 yards of. Like being apologists for the Tiki-torch white supremacy psychos or bending over frontwards to prove that Hitler didn't hate the gays.
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 19:46

Aw fuck. You just have to do that don't you. Take a perfectly good turn of phrase and just make it meaningless so we have to come up with another turn of phrase to describe the peculiar gnashing of teeth in response to Trump.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by lunchstealer » 08 Oct 2017, 19:53

Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:46
Aw fuck. You just have to do that don't you. Take a perfectly good turn of phrase and just make it meaningless so we have to come up with another turn of phrase to describe the peculiar gnashing of teeth in response to Trump.
I was using it that way when it became clear that Randroid had become a deranged trumpenprole, I think during the primary, although I could be wrong about the timing.

If you have a suggestion for the batshittery that a bunch of people have swallowed on the right as a result of the Trump candidacy/presidency that is as or more descriptive than Trump Derangement Syndrome, I'm all ears. But there's a huge swath of the right that have gone full deranged - witness D'Souza feeling the need to defend Nazis against unfair accusations of homophobia.
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 20:00

lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:53
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:46
Aw fuck. You just have to do that don't you. Take a perfectly good turn of phrase and just make it meaningless so we have to come up with another turn of phrase to describe the peculiar gnashing of teeth in response to Trump.
I was using it that way when it became clear that Randroid had become a deranged trumpenprole, I think during the primary, although I could be wrong about the timing.

If you have a suggestion for the batshittery that a bunch of people have swallowed on the right as a result of the Trump candidacy/presidency that is as or more descriptive than Trump Derangement Syndrome, I'm all ears. But there's a huge swath of the right that have gone full deranged - witness D'Souza feeling the need to defend Nazis against unfair accusations of homophobia.
I'll grant you that feeling the need to defend Nazis is deranged. I just don't see how that connects to the MAGA train.
Climbing on board that train is Sports Barism pure and simple. Trumps batshittery isn't any more battshit than his two predecessors, save in the way he communicates it.
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Post by Mo » 08 Oct 2017, 20:04

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08 Oct 2017, 20:00
I'll grant you that feeling the need to defend Nazis is deranged. I just don't see how that connects to the MAGA train.
Climbing on board that train is Sports Barism pure and simple. Trumps batshittery isn't any more battshit than his two predecessors, save in the way he communicates it.
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Post by the innominate one » 08 Oct 2017, 20:06

Yeah, I remember when Obama was constantly saber rattling with deranged dictators and calling them by juvenile derogatory nicknames in front of the U.N. I also recall Obama and Bush undercutting their own secretaries of state. Trump's just the same as those other guys. Nothing to see here.
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Post by Sandy » 08 Oct 2017, 20:17

Hasn't D'Souza been going down the batshit racist path for a while? Like right around the time they finally got tired of Derbyshire's shit?
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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 08 Oct 2017, 20:25

lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:53
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:46
Aw fuck. You just have to do that don't you. Take a perfectly good turn of phrase and just make it meaningless so we have to come up with another turn of phrase to describe the peculiar gnashing of teeth in response to Trump.
I was using it that way when it became clear that Randroid had become a deranged trumpenprole, I think during the primary, although I could be wrong about the timing.

If you have a suggestion for the batshittery that a bunch of people have swallowed on the right as a result of the Trump candidacy/presidency that is as or more descriptive than Trump Derangement Syndrome, I'm all ears. But there's a huge swath of the right that have gone full deranged - witness D'Souza feeling the need to defend Nazis against unfair accusations of homophobia.
I think he's actually saying that gayness is linked to Nazism.
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 20:26

the innominate one wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 20:06
Yeah, I remember when Obama was constantly saber rattling with deranged dictators and calling them by juvenile derogatory nicknames in front of the U.N. I also recall Obama and Bush undercutting their own secretaries of state. Trump's just the same as those other guys. Nothing to see here.
Like I said, his vulgar and frequent twits are something new. But what he said at the U.N. was zero change in the US position re: NK. (BTW Kim won the battle of juvenile derogatory nicknames. Dotard! Ha!) Obama did replace his SOS after she screwed the pooch in benghazi, he just didn't go public with the "you're fired".

You can make the case that it's better not to say everything you think when the whole world is watching. But aside from that, there really isn't anything new here.
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Post by the innominate one » 08 Oct 2017, 20:28

Congratulations on your black belt in missing the point.
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Post by Kolohe » 08 Oct 2017, 20:28

Wait what? Clinton wasn't fired over Benghazi, she quit to make some dough and run for Prez.
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Post by Warren » 08 Oct 2017, 20:29

the innominate one wrote:
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Congratulations on your black belt in missing the point.
Thanks! :)
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Post by Mo » 08 Oct 2017, 20:33

Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 20:00
lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:53
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 19:46
Aw fuck. You just have to do that don't you. Take a perfectly good turn of phrase and just make it meaningless so we have to come up with another turn of phrase to describe the peculiar gnashing of teeth in response to Trump.
I was using it that way when it became clear that Randroid had become a deranged trumpenprole, I think during the primary, although I could be wrong about the timing.

If you have a suggestion for the batshittery that a bunch of people have swallowed on the right as a result of the Trump candidacy/presidency that is as or more descriptive than Trump Derangement Syndrome, I'm all ears. But there's a huge swath of the right that have gone full deranged - witness D'Souza feeling the need to defend Nazis against unfair accusations of homophobia.
I'll grant you that feeling the need to defend Nazis is deranged. I just don't see how that connects to the MAGA train.
Climbing on board that train is Sports Barism pure and simple. Trumps batshittery isn't any more battshit than his two predecessors, save in the way he communicates it.
You do know communication, particularly with foreign powers, is a key function of the executive. Literally three of the first four responsibilities of the president in Article Two are communication (SOTU, recommendations to Congress and receiving foreign ambassadors).
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Like I said. His vulgar and frequent twits are something new. But what he said at the U.N. was zero change in the US position re: NK. (BTW Kim won the battle of juvenile derogatory nicknames. Dotard! Ha!) Obama did replace his SOS after she screwed the pooch in benghazi, he just didn't go public with the "you're fired".
Dotard is not a juvenile term. Also, replacing someone for screwing the pooch is pretty standard stuff.
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 09 Oct 2017, 07:33

lunchstealer wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 18:16
Warren wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 17:13
the innominate one wrote:
08 Oct 2017, 12:37
So he's just trolling?
I think Trump Derangement Syndrome is really spreading across the right. I haven't really figured it all out, but they're so knee jerk in their anti-left thing that they are starting to apologize for fascists just to spite the left, and then drinking their own koolaid about it.
I don't think this is an apology; for D'Souza, it's an indictment. It's part of his proof that Nazis and Democrats are the same.
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Post by Warren » 09 Oct 2017, 10:23

nicole wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 07:33
I don't think this is an apology; for D'Souza, it's an indictment. It's part of his proof that Nazis and Democrats are the same.
How does that work?

Hitler was not anti-gay.
Democrats are not anti-gay.
Therefore Democrats are Hitler?
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Re: Twitter!

Post by nicole » 09 Oct 2017, 11:41

Warren wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 10:23
nicole wrote:
09 Oct 2017, 07:33
I don't think this is an apology; for D'Souza, it's an indictment. It's part of his proof that Nazis and Democrats are the same.
How does that work?

Hitler was not anti-gay.
Democrats are not anti-gay.
Therefore Democrats are Hitler?
Well it's what his whole new book is about.

But in this context, yes.

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Post by the innominate one » 09 Oct 2017, 11:55

The idea that Dinesh D'Souza made an incoherent and illogical claim regarding American history and culture or sociological cause and effect should not be surprising. See also: every Fox News talking head, past and present.
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Re: Twitter!

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That poll doesn't show what you claim it shows.
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Post by nicole » 09 Oct 2017, 16:47

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Republican Rep. Marsha Blackburn’s Senate campaign announcement ad has been blocked by Twitter over a statement the abortion rights opponent makes about the sale of fetal tissue for medical research.

Blackburn, who is running for the seat being opened by the retirement of Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, boasts in the ad that she “stopped the sale of baby body parts.” A Twitter representative told the candidate’s vendors on Monday that the statement was “deemed an inflammatory statement that is likely to evoke a strong negative reaction:

Twitter said the Blackburn campaign would be allowed to run the rest of the video if the flagged statement is omitted. While the decision keeps Blackburn from paying to promote the video on Twitter, it doesn’t keep it from being linked from YouTube and other platforms.
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Post by the innominate one » 09 Oct 2017, 17:16

Are you outraged at Twitter or the candidate?

In the universe where I run Twitter, I'd just say you can't run an ad on my service that's obviously, demonstrably bullshit, and forget all the mealy-mouthed feel-good bullshit about evoking a strong negative reaction.
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