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JasonL wrote:
22 May 2020, 12:34
nicole wrote:
19 May 2020, 09:45
Ellie wrote:
19 May 2020, 09:06
I have literally no idea what this is about and I'm not sure how happy I should be about that.
The ends of the axes are Mencius Moldbug (founder of Nrx), Nick Land, Bronze Age Pervert, and Kantbot.
If anyone is bored and wanted to give one or two lines about the distinctions among these views I would read it appreciatively. I know land and I know MG - or thought I did. I don’t know them well enough to understand why they aren’t the same in this matrix.
The thing you should be asking yourself, is will knowing anything about these twitter personalities enrich your life in any meaningful way?

I mean, I'm at the point where nicole and db are basically speaking a foreign language wrt social media & pop culture half the time now.
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It would have been really useful to know that the Alt Right was a thing before I knew it was a thing. The challenge I have is I don't want to wade through the muck to actually get a feel - it's a bottomless pit of awful in every case I've actually engaged. The faux intellectualism of NRx makes me want to die - but I kinda would like to know where that conversation is heading so I don't miss anything obvious as much as I did the flavor of Bannonite populism. So, I wouldn't mind if someone wanted to spy and report out a brief summary every once in a while in language that doesn't require so much gross cultural absorption.

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Arnold Kling coined the term neo reactionary?

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I see. As it ripples into real-world, and maybe inflicts social or political pressure, it makes sense to at least know where it originates from. I can understand the interest, even if I don't have it.
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JasonL wrote:
22 May 2020, 12:52
It would have been really useful to know that the Alt Right was a thing before I knew it was a thing. The challenge I have is I don't want to wade through the muck to actually get a feel - it's a bottomless pit of awful in every case I've actually engaged. The faux intellectualism of NRx makes me want to die - but I kinda would like to know where that conversation is heading so I don't miss anything obvious as much as I did the flavor of Bannonite populism. So, I wouldn't mind if someone wanted to spy and report out a brief summary every once in a while in language that doesn't require so much gross cultural absorption.
I think if this is what you’re interested in you should investigate the BAP phenomenon a bit more. It’s all about “Bronze Age mindset” shit, paleo eating, working out, all the like chad memes about calling everyone “king” and a lot of stuff about the positivity and value of male friendship and stuff like that.

And Kantbot is like...the more uh effete bookish version? Kinda?

The legend given for the Moldbug/Land spectrum was humanist vs anti humanist reaction.
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nicole wrote:
23 May 2020, 08:24
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As near as I can tell BAP is like Yoda for incels.

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Wasn’t Yoda in fact Yoda for incels?

(Though I guess if the alternative is having the hots for your twin sister...)
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When this shit comes across my Twitter timeline it makes me miss the surprise furry porn

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nicole wrote:
23 May 2020, 08:24
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LOL.
Slip inside a sleeping bag.

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Imagine thinking people have been using “toxic” in this way for only a period of months

And thinking it came from “toxic masculinity” instead of going in the reverse direction

Have you ever even heard of Britney Spears mf

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Also it doesn’t mean “wretched” you dumb fuck

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In games and other online spaces, 'toxic' has meant 'poisonous asshole' for years.

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nicole wrote:
25 May 2020, 10:27
Imagine thinking people have been using “toxic” in this way for only a period of months

And thinking it came from “toxic masculinity” instead of going in the reverse direction

Have you ever even heard of Britney Spears mf
I assume this person is in their early 20s. I remain thankful much of my online idiocy from that period is gone with various defunct message boards. And that my more recent idiocy is mostly limited to the gryll and not spread around the intertubes for all to mock.
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Andrew wrote:
26 May 2020, 13:44
nicole wrote:
25 May 2020, 10:27
Imagine thinking people have been using “toxic” in this way for only a period of months

And thinking it came from “toxic masculinity” instead of going in the reverse direction

Have you ever even heard of Britney Spears mf
I assume this person is in their early 20s. I remain thankful much of my online idiocy from that period is gone with various defunct message boards. And that my more recent idiocy is mostly limited to the gryll and not spread around the intertubes for all to mock.
Damn straight. I feel this something fierce. *fist bump*
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Kolohe wrote:
23 May 2020, 13:56
Wasn’t Yoda in fact Yoda for incels?

(Though I guess if the alternative is having the hots for your twin sister...)
Yoda is Yoda for incels who think they're volcels.
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I wouldn't give a tinker's damn about Twitter if it weren't so effectively used by evil stupid people to influence other stupid people and I certainly have mixed feelings about Twitter and all social media taking it upon themselves to provide running commentary, but this may prove to be interesting.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 18:47
I wouldn't give a tinker's damn about Twitter if it weren't so effectively used by evil stupid people to influence other stupid people and I certainly have mixed feelings about Twitter and all social media taking it upon themselves to provide running commentary, but this may prove to be interesting.
By "interesting" I assume you mean open another Pandora's Box clusterfuck.
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Warren wrote:
26 May 2020, 20:07
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 18:47
I wouldn't give a tinker's damn about Twitter if it weren't so effectively used by evil stupid people to influence other stupid people and I certainly have mixed feelings about Twitter and all social media taking it upon themselves to provide running commentary, but this may prove to be interesting.
By "interesting" I assume you mean open another Pandora's Box clusterfuck.
Pretty much.

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D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 20:38
Warren wrote:
26 May 2020, 20:07
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 18:47
I wouldn't give a tinker's damn about Twitter if it weren't so effectively used by evil stupid people to influence other stupid people and I certainly have mixed feelings about Twitter and all social media taking it upon themselves to provide running commentary, but this may prove to be interesting.
By "interesting" I assume you mean open another Pandora's Box clusterfuck.
Pretty much.
Agree. Much as I loathe Trump, Twitter (and other social media) appointing themselves 'Truth Squads' is noxious. It is also going to provoke more self-righteousness amongst the Trumpentariat.

My biggest worry would be the Senate deciding social media needed 'regulating.'

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Aresen wrote:
26 May 2020, 23:29
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 20:38
Warren wrote:
26 May 2020, 20:07
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
26 May 2020, 18:47
I wouldn't give a tinker's damn about Twitter if it weren't so effectively used by evil stupid people to influence other stupid people and I certainly have mixed feelings about Twitter and all social media taking it upon themselves to provide running commentary, but this may prove to be interesting.
By "interesting" I assume you mean open another Pandora's Box clusterfuck.
Pretty much.
Agree. Much as I loathe Trump, Twitter (and other social media) appointing themselves 'Truth Squads' is noxious. It is also going to provoke more self-righteousness amongst the Trumpentariat.

My biggest worry would be the Senate deciding social media needed 'regulating.'

"Unleash the KraFCCen!"
I wondered if in the future we would see some kind of partisan stratification of social media a bit like the news media. But the primary draw for some seems to be retweeting someone or something they hate.

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Yeah, I do delight at the idea of Twitter labeling Trump's tweets Fake News right up until he has a rage aneurysm, but don't actually want the consequences of that precedent.
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Bronze Age mindset (for JasonL):

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When he says 'alien'...
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Hugh Akston wrote:
28 May 2020, 01:25
When he says 'alien'...
That's the word your not sure about? That was one of the six words in that tweet I thought I understood.
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