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YOU GUYS HUGH HEFNER DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF
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lunchstealer wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 15:35 YOU GUYS HUGH HEFNER DIDN'T KILL HIMSELF
Of course not. But he was dead the last three years of his life when Crystal was doing the Weekend at Bernie's thing with him.
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I don't get the fapping over Gervais' comments by the right. Hasn't he basically the same material every time he's hosted the Golden Globes? He basically goes after the actors, Hollywood and the HFPA every year as a pillow soft roast, everyone laughs, pretends their offended and then goes home and bangs their beautiful spouse/bf/gf/mistress* on top of a big pile of money.

* What's the male version of a mistress? A mister?
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Mo wrote: 09 Jan 2020, 09:26 I don't get the fapping over Gervais' comments by the right. Hasn't he basically the same material every time he's hosted the Golden Globes? He basically goes after the actors, Hollywood and the HFPA every year as a pillow soft roast, everyone laughs, pretends their offended and then goes home and bangs their beautiful spouse/bf/gf/mistress* on top of a big pile of money.
I didn't get it either, considering that Gervais' politics are very left wing and anti-god jokes are a big part of his shtick.
* What's the male version of a mistress? A mister?
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Aresen wrote: 09 Jan 2020, 10:48
* What's the male version of a mistress? A mister?
Kept man or gigolo.
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Warren wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 13:59
D.A. Ridgely wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 12:27 Chappelle had a much better Epstein joke at the Mark Twain Awards ceremony televised last night. Having previously mentioned Hugh Hefner in a different context, he then did a callback, describing Hefner as "you know, like Epstein but with a grotto."
:?
Fort the record, this wasn't Chapelle's joke. It was the guy who worked with Chappelle to create High Times and the Chappelle show.

In context the joke was funny but, yeah, not entirely accurate.

(I think? My impression of Hef's thing is that by modern standards, his methods were very sexist, but not overtly coerced like Epsteins.)
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Kolohe wrote: 09 Jan 2020, 22:38
Warren wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 13:59
D.A. Ridgely wrote: 08 Jan 2020, 12:27 Chappelle had a much better Epstein joke at the Mark Twain Awards ceremony televised last night. Having previously mentioned Hugh Hefner in a different context, he then did a callback, describing Hefner as "you know, like Epstein but with a grotto."
:?
Fort the record, this wasn't Chapelle's joke. It was the guy who worked with Chappelle to create High Times and the Chappelle show.

In context the joke was funny but, yeah, not entirely accurate.

(I think? My impression of Hef's thing is that by modern standards, his methods were very sexist, but not overtly coerced like Epsteins.)
Yeah, you're right, it was Neal Brennan.

My guess is that Hefner was closer to a Harvey Weinstein type in his, um, hiring practices. That said, it was the sexual revolution and there were no doubt many young women who had no big problem with that.

Even so, geez, jokes have to be accurate?
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No, but it does make them better.



Edit don't know why the video doesn't work. (It's the clip of Homer lauging 'it's funny because it's true')
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Kolohe wrote: 09 Jan 2020, 23:06 No, but it does make them better.



Edit don't know why the video doesn't work. (It's the clip of Homer lauging 'it's funny because it's true')
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Funny or meh, it's always good to go after hollywood sanctimony at one of their self congratulatory events. I find the piles of money and hot spouses thing a strange riposte. I mean, hollywood types get all preachy about billionaires, so ...
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JasonL wrote: 10 Jan 2020, 10:59 Funny or meh, it's always good to go after hollywood sanctimony at one of their self congratulatory events. I find the piles of money and hot spouses thing a strange riposte. I mean, hollywood types get all preachy about billionaires, so ...
One of the reasons that Hollywood studios fail so often is that the people who run them try to operate like the billionaires in their movies rather than real businessmen.
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Aresen wrote: 10 Jan 2020, 11:02
JasonL wrote: 10 Jan 2020, 10:59 Funny or meh, it's always good to go after hollywood sanctimony at one of their self congratulatory events. I find the piles of money and hot spouses thing a strange riposte. I mean, hollywood types get all preachy about billionaires, so ...
One of the reasons that Hollywood studios fail so often is that the people who run them try to operate like the billionaires in their movies rather than real businessmen.
Nowadays, it's more like the reason the studios so often fail is that the people who run them are businessmen and lawyers who treat the industry exactly as they would a poultry business or a chain of shoe stores. Say what you will about the movie moguls of bygone days, they understood the entertainment industry as many of those in charge now do not.

Not counting film franchises, for a movie to succeed by Hollywood metrics, it has to have a convergence of five or six disparate elements (screenplay, cast, director, soundtrack, editing, promotion and maybe a few more) and no one has ever found a foolproof formula of putting those together every time, so every genuinely new movie is a crap shoot.

I don't think the film and television industries care that much about the Golden Globes beyond the fact that they're free advertising for the nominated films and a rough indicator (but only that) of how they'll do come Oscars time. Yes, it's all self-congratulatory but it's also part of the business of promoting movies. Other than the Oscars, themselves, if you're, say, a screenwriter, you'd much rather win the Screenwriters' Guild Award than a Golden Globe, but getting your name mentioned on prime-time broadcast TV ain't nothing, either.
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All other considerations have been subjugated to "has appeal to the global market". I'm not sure that's business dumb for mega films.
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JasonL wrote: 10 Jan 2020, 11:22 All other considerations have been subjugated to "has appeal to the global market". I'm not sure that's business dumb for mega films.
Except that niche or genre films about which the Asian market (which is the only global market if we are to take South Park as truth) is known from the get-go to have no interest are still being made. Blockbusters, tentpoles, movies with > $100m budgets, yeah, they're going to scrub those things to make sure they get access to those markets, but there's still no guarantee of success once they open.
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After their win, I decided to look up Armond White's review of the film and it did not disappoint.

https://www.nationalreview.com/2019/10/ ... cial-ruin/
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