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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by nicole » 12 Feb 2018, 13:59

I hate beans. There are a few items on the list I’ve never had just because I know I won’t like them based on ingredients.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 14:04

nicole wrote:
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I hate beans. There are a few items on the list I’ve never had just because I know I won’t like them based on ingredients.
I have seething contempt for "I refuse to try this dish because I already know I won't like it".
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by nicole » 12 Feb 2018, 14:14

Beans regularly sneak into my Mexican food. They're always gross.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 14:22

nicole wrote:
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Beans regularly sneak into my Mexican food. They're always gross.
Like the refried beans with a little cheese melted on them they stick on every plate? huh.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

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Warren wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 14:22
nicole wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 14:14
Beans regularly sneak into my Mexican food. They're always gross.
Like the refried beans with a little cheese melted on them they stick on every plate? huh.
Those and the ones at Chipotle.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

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2. Nettle tea
16. Epoisses
26. Raw Scotch Bonnet pepper
30. Bagna cauda
36. Cognac with a fat cigar
42. Whole insects
43. Phaal
45. Malt whisky from a bottle worth £60/$120 or more
46. Fugu
51. Prickly pear
63. Kaolin
65. Durian
68. Haggis
70. Chitterlings, or andouillette
73. Louche absinthe
75. Roadkill
76. Baijiu or shaojiu
84. Tasting menu at a three-Michelin-star restaurant
85. Kobe beef
89. Horse
90. Criollo chocolate
93. Rose harissa
97. Lobster Thermidor
100. Snake
Things I haven't tried.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 14:30

nicole wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 14:22
Those and the ones at Chipotle.
I don't have a Chipotle so I don't know about that. I just think of refried beans like I do mashed potatoes; they can be superb if prepared at the master level, but most often they are just there. Finding them "gross" is more shits than I have to give for them.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Andrew » 12 Feb 2018, 15:22

I know gumbo is on the list, but crawfish etouffee strikes me as a big omission.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by JasonL » 12 Feb 2018, 15:30

The list is idiosyncratic. Lots of stuff I’d like to see, some strange choices. Overall not bad tho.

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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Sandy » 12 Feb 2018, 15:41

I saw ads for Hostess™ Fruit Pies™ in comic books, but learned early on that most of those were lies. I've had most of their other stuff, just not the fruit pies.

Most of the rest can be explained by also not liking beans that much, and not being a huge cheese aficionado (it's fine, but I don't go out of my way for new experiences), and not liking eggs, mostly because being allergic as a child I never picked up the taste for them.

I'm also picky about my fish.

Some other stuff is that I haven't put money toward high end restaurants.

I really do regret not trying horse in Kazakhstan, and I still want to try haggis.

I've had other sweet liqueurs and have no desire for cognac. I also don't like smoking.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 16:07

I do the cigar maybe once every seven years. I'll just say that one night with a cigar and snifter of B&B stands out as one of my top ten.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Kwix » 12 Feb 2018, 19:34

Things I have not tried:
16. Epoisses
30. Bagna cauda
33. Salted lassi
36. Cognac with a fat cigar*
43. Phaal
46. Fugu
63. Kaolin (As in white bentonite clay?? I've eaten dirt, is that good enough?)
65. Durian**
84. Tasting menu at a three-Michelin-star restaurant
85. Kobe beef (Wagyu, yes but not from Kobe)
89. Horse ***
93. Rose harissa
97. Lobster Thermidor
I'm taking liberties. I've had Alligator not Crocodile, and Arctic Hare not European Hare.
* Cognac yes, no cigar.
** Oddly, I have a frozen package in the freezer so in a week this list will change.
*** I have no objection to horse just probably won't get the opportunity without travel.

My top 5, I'll add more later when I've thought on it and not at work:
Blue King Crab
Fresh Raw Oysters (Pacific or Chesapeake)
Pit smoked whole hog
Upland game birds(grouse, pheasant, quail)
Seared Ahi with ponzu
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Eric the .5b » 12 Feb 2018, 19:52

This mix is a bizarre mix of absolutely humdrum stuff, unusual items, and "Oh, fuck you."
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Kwix » 12 Feb 2018, 19:59

Eric the .5b wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:52
This mix is a bizarre mix of absolutely humdrum stuff, unusual items, and "Oh, fuck you."
What I find fascinating about it is that it's British. So presumably the Indian and Continental stuff would be more readily accessible and things like "Root Beer Float" and "Hot Dog from a Cart" may be exotic.

I mean, can you imagine a guy who's had horse vindaloo but not a pack of Donettes?
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 20:03

5. Crocodile*
66. Frogs’ legs
86. Hare*
100. Snake

These are all "not chicken". I feel like either frogs' legs or snake sufficiently represents the group. Rabbit is near indistinguishable from chicken. Alligator I've only seen either deep fried or stewed. I like frogs' legs for distinctive flavor over snake, but there's a kind of psychological satisfaction about eating snake.

*I'm claiming alligator and domestic rabbit as acceptable substitutes.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 12 Feb 2018, 20:15

Eric the .5b wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:52
... and "Oh, fuck you."
There are a number of entries I find unappetizing, but I can accept them all save:
58. Beer above 8% ABV - I mentioned above I don't see any need for this. Unless you're looking for a soporific, I say pass. High ABV does nothing for beer and if you're trying to get drunk there's a multitude of options that work just as well. Even so, I can sooner accept potent brew over,

26. Raw Scotch Bonnet pepper - Now that's just cruel. If you work your way up to it and get off on the pain, fine. Ohterwise this is nothing more than a substitute for a penis. I checked this one off my list unknowingly. It's just pain. I'll grant it's an experience you won't soon forget. But I don't see that it's one that provides anything positive to having lived it.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by JasonL » 12 Feb 2018, 20:44

I gave myself croc cred for alligator too.

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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Mo » 12 Feb 2018, 22:41

Warren wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 20:03
These are all "not chicken". I feel like either frogs' legs or snake sufficiently represents the group. Rabbit is near indistinguishable from chicken.
Hare and rabbit have very different tastes. Rabbit is basically chicken, hare is a darker and gamier meat, so not an acceptable substitute.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Eric the .5b » 13 Feb 2018, 00:28

Kwix wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:59
Eric the .5b wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:52
This mix is a bizarre mix of absolutely humdrum stuff, unusual items, and "Oh, fuck you."
What I find fascinating about it is that it's British. So presumably the Indian and Continental stuff would be more readily accessible and things like "Root Beer Float" and "Hot Dog from a Cart" may be exotic.

I mean, can you imagine a guy who's had horse vindaloo but not a pack of Donettes?
Not to mention a PB&J sandwich.

Though, apparently, peanut butter is a strange and exotic thing to Europeans.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Eric the .5b » 13 Feb 2018, 00:29

Warren wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 20:15
Eric the .5b wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:52
... and "Oh, fuck you."
26. Raw Scotch Bonnet pepper
That's where you say, "Oh, fuck you," to the list-maker.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 13 Feb 2018, 01:00

Eric the .5b wrote:
13 Feb 2018, 00:29
Warren wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 20:15
Eric the .5b wrote:
12 Feb 2018, 19:52
... and "Oh, fuck you."
26. Raw Scotch Bonnet pepper
That's where you say, "Oh, fuck you," to the list-maker.
agreed
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Jennifer » 13 Feb 2018, 01:15

When I Googled Scotch bonnet pepper, one of the images that came up was a photo of some Jamaican or Caribbean carry out of like a sandwich with peppers and pickles on the side. Which is why I put that in my personal "not sure" category: I've certainly nibbled peppers and pickles that came with various island-themed carryout foods. But from that little interchange 'twixt Warren and Eric just now, I'm thinking that whatever peppers I tried because they came with mine or Jeff's carryouts, they likely would not have been Scotch bonnets?
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Warren » 13 Feb 2018, 01:23

Jennifer wrote:
13 Feb 2018, 01:15
When I Googled Scotch bonnet pepper, one of the images that came up was a photo of some Jamaican or Caribbean carry out of like a sandwich with peppers and pickles on the side. Which is why I put that in my personal "not sure" category: I've certainly nibbled peppers and pickles that came with various island-themed carryout foods. But from that little interchange 'twixt Warren and Eric just now, I'm thinking that whatever peppers I tried because they came with mine or Jeff's carryouts, they likely would not have been Scotch bonnets?
Wikipedia wrote:Most Scotch bonnets have a heat rating of 100,000–350,000 Scoville units.[5] For comparison, most jalapeño peppers have a heat rating of 2,500 to 8,000 on the Scoville scale.
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by Jennifer » 13 Feb 2018, 01:26

Well, then, that definitely qualifies as "fuck you."
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Re: The Omnivore's 100

Post by lunchstealer » 13 Feb 2018, 05:34

Ellie wrote:I came across this list compiled in 2008 by a UK blog that appears to no longer exist -- their idea of "the hundred foods every omnivore should try before they die."

I will paste the list below, and invite your commentary: the number of foods you have tried, and any that were particularly memorable (good or bad); items you've never heard of; and/or which list items are stupid and should be replaced with something else.

2. Nettle tea

8. Carp

16. Epoisses
17. Black truffle

25. Brawn, or head cheese
26. Raw Scotch Bonnet pepper

30. Bagna cauda

32. Clam chowder in a sourdough bowl
33. Salted lassi

36. Cognac with a fat cigar
37. Clotted cream tea

40. Oxtail

42. Whole insects
43. Phaal
44. Goat’s milk

46. Fugu

51. Prickly pear
52. Umeboshi
53. Abalone

60. Carob chips

62. Sweetbreads
63. Kaolin
64. Currywurst
65. Durian
66. Frogs’ legs

68. Haggis

70. Chitterlings, or andouillette
71. Gazpacho
72. Caviar and blini

74. Gjetost, or brunost
75. Roadkill

77. Hostess Fruit Pie
78. Snail
79. Lapsang souchong

84. Tasting menu at a three-Michelin-star restaurant

86. Hare

89. Horse
90. Criollo chocolate

93. Rose harissa

97. Lobster Thermidor

99. Jamaican Blue Mountain coffee
100. Snake
Alligators are crocodilians.
Leaving out rabbit per Mo.

I object to Warren’s dismissal of high ABV beer. It is wildly over represented in American craft brewing but a good doppelbock or wee heavy or winter warmer are all cromulent options.

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