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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

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JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
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Highway wrote:JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
Kawaii voice makes me want to die.

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Post by Ellie » 05 Dec 2018, 14:21

I might just be way too sleep deprived for sanity, but now I'm imagining a "cute girls doing cute things" anime where they all have voices like Harvey Fierstein and 80-year-old smokers :lol:
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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

Post by Eric the .5b » 05 Dec 2018, 19:09

JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 14:13
Highway wrote:JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
Kawaii voice makes me want to die.
I have the same reaction; go for dubbed versions, then.

(I keep meaning to get around to Girls und Panzer or Azumanga Daioh, but it takes me forever to get around to watching anything.)
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Post by Eric the .5b » 05 Dec 2018, 19:39

Weird thing about origin stories: for years, the most well-known superhero TV show, the 1966 Batman series, didn't really bother with any origin for Batman or Robin. "These guys fight weird crime in funny costumes. Go!" The closest was one episode where Bruce Wayne says he's set up a crime victim assistance foundation because of how he lost his parents.

Myself, I don't mind coverage of an origin, because it goes to characterization. And movies, as opposed to series, kinda demand them, because, outside of comedies, they're a big part of establishing how things work and why these people dress up in funny costumes and do these crazy things. (A series has the time to fill you in on expectations.) The Hellboy movies come the closest to "here are these people already doing their things", and even they include character origin scenes.
Warren wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 13:43
CGI spectacles need a story to match the visuals. I'm still on the superhero bus, just not getting off at ever stop.
Emphasis added.

This is the thing to me. As an admitted geek, there used to be an expectation among geeks that of course you'd go and watch every superhero show/movie that came out, almost entirely regardless of quality, because you were getting what little you'd ever get. But in the day and age that this stuff makes money and gets serious big-budget treatment as a matter of course, that's silly. Just watch what appeals to you.
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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

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Eric the .5b wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 19:39
Weird thing about origin stories: for years, the most well-known superhero TV show, the 1966 Batman series, didn't really bother with any origin for Batman or Robin. "These guys fight weird crime in funny costumes. Go!" The closest was one episode where Bruce Wayne says he's set up a crime victim assistance foundation because of how he lost his parents.

Myself, I don't mind coverage of an origin, because it goes to characterization. And movies, as opposed to series, kinda demand them, because, outside of comedies, they're a big part of establishing how things work and why these people dress up in funny costumes and do these crazy things. (A series has the time to fill you in on expectations.) The Hellboy movies come the closest to "here are these people already doing their things", and even they include character origin scenes.
Warren wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 13:43
CGI spectacles need a story to match the visuals. I'm still on the superhero bus, just not getting off at ever stop.
Emphasis added.

This is the thing to me. As an admitted geek, there used to be an expectation among geeks that of course you'd go and watch every superhero show/movie that came out, almost entirely regardless of quality, because you were getting what little you'd ever get. But in the day and age that this stuff makes money and gets serious big-budget treatment as a matter of course, that's silly. Just watch what appeals to you.
I have wondered if superhero movies and TV are just a new form of comics themselves (or maybe graphic novels is more accurate). Like comics, styles and themes might change, some will be good others bad, interests will wax and wane, some one will push too much and go bankrupt, but there will still be superhero movies being made just as they still make comics.

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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

Post by Andrew » 05 Dec 2018, 20:18

JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 13:31
I definitely have a visual entertainment problem these days. I'm tired of zombies, vampires, serial killers (above all serial killers), superheroes, Massive CGI Spectacles. Broader categories are "Things that won't die even though they've been repetitive for 3 seasons / sequels".

I'm not tired of but seem to never feel like watching "serious oscar bait" and "the never ending suffering of so and so". I don't enjoy the prospect of being bummed out for a few days by a well made story of woe. Maybe I just don't like visual media very much anymore. I do kind of think that the BBC model of short serials is the way to do things. Long enough to tell a story but they end in a reasonable period.
I saw someone refer to Netflix series in general as 11 seasons of edging.

I cosign all the things you're tired of, which would explain my viewing for the last year.
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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

Post by Highway » 05 Dec 2018, 22:43

Eric the .5b wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 19:09
JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 14:13
Highway wrote:JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
Kawaii voice makes me want to die.
I have the same reaction; go for dubbed versions, then.

(I keep meaning to get around to Girls und Panzer or Azumanga Daioh, but it takes me forever to get around to watching anything.)
Girls und Panzer is, no lie, my second favorite thing to watch ever. Only beaten out by Sound! Euphonium. I'd recommend the two of them for anyone, even if they don't ever watch anime.
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Post by Ellie » 05 Dec 2018, 23:56

It's been 15 years since I watched Azumanga Daioh but I remember that I loved it!
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Post by dbcooper » 06 Dec 2018, 00:14

Andrew wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 20:18
JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 13:31
I definitely have a visual entertainment problem these days. I'm tired of zombies, vampires, serial killers (above all serial killers), superheroes, Massive CGI Spectacles. Broader categories are "Things that won't die even though they've been repetitive for 3 seasons / sequels".

I'm not tired of but seem to never feel like watching "serious oscar bait" and "the never ending suffering of so and so". I don't enjoy the prospect of being bummed out for a few days by a well made story of woe. Maybe I just don't like visual media very much anymore. I do kind of think that the BBC model of short serials is the way to do things. Long enough to tell a story but they end in a reasonable period.
I saw someone refer to Netflix series in general as 11 seasons of edging.

I cosign all the things you're tired of, which would explain my viewing for the last year.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 06 Dec 2018, 00:25

Painboy wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 20:05
Eric the .5b wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 19:39
Weird thing about origin stories: for years, the most well-known superhero TV show, the 1966 Batman series, didn't really bother with any origin for Batman or Robin. "These guys fight weird crime in funny costumes. Go!" The closest was one episode where Bruce Wayne says he's set up a crime victim assistance foundation because of how he lost his parents.

Myself, I don't mind coverage of an origin, because it goes to characterization. And movies, as opposed to series, kinda demand them, because, outside of comedies, they're a big part of establishing how things work and why these people dress up in funny costumes and do these crazy things. (A series has the time to fill you in on expectations.) The Hellboy movies come the closest to "here are these people already doing their things", and even they include character origin scenes.
Warren wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 13:43
CGI spectacles need a story to match the visuals. I'm still on the superhero bus, just not getting off at ever stop.
Emphasis added.

This is the thing to me. As an admitted geek, there used to be an expectation among geeks that of course you'd go and watch every superhero show/movie that came out, almost entirely regardless of quality, because you were getting what little you'd ever get. But in the day and age that this stuff makes money and gets serious big-budget treatment as a matter of course, that's silly. Just watch what appeals to you.
I have wondered if superhero movies and TV are just a new form of comics themselves (or maybe graphic novels is more accurate). Like comics, styles and themes might change, some will be good others bad, interests will wax and wane, some one will push too much and go bankrupt, but there will still be superhero movies being made just as they still make comics.
I think the superhero genre is a strong one that's managed to stick around for a long time. It's flexible and adaptable to new times, and with a little sleight-of-hand, you can sell superhero stories as something else entirely.

But yeah, we've had superheroes in film since the 30s. It just took until Superman to start getting the effects good enough so that a little super-heroic action doesn't look silly. It will go in and out of fashion, but the fundamental conceit of a superhero story—people with unusual capabilities dealing with unusual crises—is a natural for Hollywood. It'll be around long after the current crop of movies is old and dated-looking.
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Post by Mo » 06 Dec 2018, 08:01

In the heyday of Westerns there was like a new Western like every other week.
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Post by Kolohe » 06 Dec 2018, 08:40

We've had superhero stories since the Illiad and Gilgamesh.
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Post by Warren » 06 Dec 2018, 09:32

Mo wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 08:01
In the heyday of Westerns there was like a new Western like every other week.
That's just the movies. In it's heyday there were three Westerns every night of the week on TV.
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Post by Mo » 06 Dec 2018, 09:43

Warren wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 09:32
Mo wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 08:01
In the heyday of Westerns there was like a new Western like every other week.
That's just the movies. In it's heyday there were three Westerns every night of the week on TV.
Which, as a proportion of all TV on the air, was like 10% of broadcast entertainment.
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Post by Warren » 06 Dec 2018, 09:45

Mo wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 09:43
Warren wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 09:32
Mo wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 08:01
In the heyday of Westerns there was like a new Western like every other week.
That's just the movies. In it's heyday there were three Westerns every night of the week on TV.
Which, as a proportion of all TV on the air, was like 10% of broadcast entertainment.
Much higher if you weight it by viewers.
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JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 14:13
Highway wrote:JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
Kawaii voice makes me want to die.
I want your review of devilman crybaby.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 06 Dec 2018, 12:17

dhex wrote:
06 Dec 2018, 11:45
JasonL wrote:
05 Dec 2018, 14:13
Highway wrote:JasonL's gonna start watching Cute Girls Doing Cute Things anime any minute now...
Kawaii voice makes me want to die.
I want your review of devilman crybaby.
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Post by Warren » 15 Jan 2019, 11:18

So they Ted Turnered a war.
I'll pass
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Post by Painboy » 15 Jan 2019, 14:20

Warren wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 11:18
So they Ted Turnered a war.
I'll pass
They did substantially more than that. They added sound, remastered the images, and did frame correction to compensate for the different frame rates. It strips away the weird surreal feeling footage of that time normally has. Especially the sped up feeling it has when played at modern frames per second. It gives it a reality it lacked before. It's like the color WW2 footage that was shot. There's a big difference between seeing Nazi emblems in black and white and seeing them in all their terror in full color.

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Post by Jake » 15 Jan 2019, 15:04

Painboy wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:20
Warren wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 11:18
So they Ted Turnered a war.
I'll pass
They did substantially more than that. They added sound, remastered the images, and did frame correction to compensate for the different frame rates. It strips away the weird surreal feeling footage of that time normally has. Especially the sped up feeling it has when played at modern frames per second. It gives it a reality it lacked before. It's like the color WW2 footage that was shot. There's a big difference between seeing Nazi emblems in black and white and seeing them in all their terror in full color.
I read the above, and that prompted me to actually watch the trailer. And holy crap... this seems... significant? Important? Something. I've just gone from "I'm almost certainly not going to see this film" to "I must seek out an opportunity to see this film."
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Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 18:24

Jake wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:04
Painboy wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:20
Warren wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 11:18
So they Ted Turnered a war.
I'll pass
They did substantially more than that. They added sound, remastered the images, and did frame correction to compensate for the different frame rates. It strips away the weird surreal feeling footage of that time normally has. Especially the sped up feeling it has when played at modern frames per second. It gives it a reality it lacked before. It's like the color WW2 footage that was shot. There's a big difference between seeing Nazi emblems in black and white and seeing them in all their terror in full color.
I read the above, and that prompted me to actually watch the trailer. And holy crap... this seems... significant? Important? Something. I've just gone from "I'm almost certainly not going to see this film" to "I must seek out an opportunity to see this film."
I just had the same reaction to both Painboy's post and the trailer. (I'd been intending to look at the trailer, but not right-this-moment.)

That's a Hell of a thing, and I got some goosebumps off it. It's the first WW1 retrospective this century that I've really wanted to watch, and I'd been avoiding the subject since we hit the hundredth anniversary of the beginning.
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Re: I wanna see that!!!!

Post by Jasper » 16 Jan 2019, 15:16

Ditto Jake.

This seems important.
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Post by dhex » 16 Jan 2019, 16:20

that doc does look dope

in less serious news, gaspar noe made a dance party movie



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