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Re: Zack Snyder's Slow Motion French Fries: the DCEU Thread

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Dark Ted Knight was edgy.

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Bobby Knight Rises, however, was a bit too edgy.
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Knight Rider Returns sorta fell apart during the cheeseburger scene.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 22 May 2017, 23:38

I will note without comment that Snyder stepped down from Justice League after his daughter's suicide. Joss Whedon will take over the movie, which is mostly done.
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Post by dbcooper » 22 May 2017, 23:59

Sucker Punch was terrible, but she didn't need to go that far.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 23 May 2017, 02:45

It wasn't just Sucker Punch, or her dad's whole filmography for that matter. She probably took a look at other directing dynasties like Jason Reitman, Sofia Coppola, and Nick Cassavetes and said nope this ends here.
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Hugh Akston wrote:It wasn't just Sucker Punch, or her dad's whole filmography for that matter. She probably took a look at other directing dynasties like Jason Reitman, Sofia Coppola, and Nick Cassavetes and said nope this ends here.
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Wonder Woman had too much slow-mo, not enough character development, a big dumb climactic boss fight that undercut the theme of the movie, and took itself way too seriously for a movie with so little to say.

There is no hope for this franchise. Zack Snyder is like King Midas but for horseshit.
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Hugh Akston wrote:Wonder Woman had too much slow-mo, not enough character development, a big dumb climactic boss fight that undercut the theme of the movie, and took itself way too seriously for a movie with so little to say.

There is no hope for this franchise. Zack Snyder is like King Midas but for horseshit.
Snyder didn't direct it though.

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Post by thoreau » 03 Jun 2017, 02:07

If I grade it on a DCEU curve I give it an A.

If I grade it on an MCU curve I give it a C+.

If I grade it as a college professor I give it "Most important movie since Hidden Figures." (Though, to it's credit, I didn't find any of the gender themes to be ham-handed. I just found it to get slower as time went on, I found the boss fight dumb, and the main villain even more pointless than usual.)
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Post by Hugh Akston » 03 Jun 2017, 05:54

Painboy wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:Wonder Woman had too much slow-mo, not enough character development, a big dumb climactic boss fight that undercut the theme of the movie, and took itself way too seriously for a movie with so little to say.

There is no hope for this franchise. Zack Snyder is like King Midas but for horseshit.
Snyder didn't direct it though.
True, he just produced and wrote the story.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
Painboy wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:Wonder Woman had too much slow-mo, not enough character development, a big dumb climactic boss fight that undercut the theme of the movie, and took itself way too seriously for a movie with so little to say.

There is no hope for this franchise. Zack Snyder is like King Midas but for horseshit.
Snyder didn't direct it though.
True, he just produced and wrote the story.
Not that he didn't have influence but looking at the cast and crew he was like one of ten producers and one of four writers. Good or bad I'm not sure he should get much credit either way.

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Post by lunchstealer » 05 Jun 2017, 12:23

*SPOILER AF*

Yeah, the bullet-time shit needs to be over, you guys. And boss battles that are just increasing amounts of energy thrown back and forth are bullshit.

Say what you will about MCU's flaws, relatively few of their boss battles are this lazily written. I honestly don't recall the boss battles from original Iron Man, Thor, or Captain America/First Avenger, but when this is the best of the DCEU franchise so far, it's got to go up against Avengers, Winter Soldier, AoU, Doctor Strange, GotG, and Civil War. Of those, only Civil War comes close to this level of weak-ass shit. And even then, it's nuclear-powered-good-but-not-unobtanium-power-armor containing clever but otherwise normal human vs supersoldier with unobtanium shield, super strength, and super healing, but no ranged weapons other than throwing said shield really hard, and neither suddenly has powers never seen before, nor do either just completely forget about powers they've been using throughout the film.

Here, WW goes from slightly-better-equiped Captain America, as a combo melee-DPS/tank, super strength/agility with unobtanium shield, plus magic lasso and sword, into ultimately being able to redirect tactical-nuke level energy, while the antagonist spends the prelude to the boss battle teleporting around, then just becomes Darth Vader without the light saber - no teleporting, just telekinesis and force-lightning. The battle basically consists of the two of them throwing more and more shit at each other until one of them leaves a big enough crater to kill the other.

Also wish they hadn't made the Germans into protonazis.


Kirk's arc is pretty good, though.
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Post by Warren » 05 Jun 2017, 12:37

lunchstealer wrote:Of those, only Civil War comes close to this level of weak-ass shit. And even then, it's nuclear-powered-good-but-not-unobtanium-power-armor containing clever but otherwise normal human vs supersoldier with unobtanium shield, super strength, and super healing, but no ranged weapons other than throwing said shield really hard, and neither suddenly has powers never seen before, nor do either just completely forget about powers they've been using throughout the film.
Iron Man and War Machine are loaded with range weapons. Ant Man breaks out a never seen before power in the splash page battle.

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Well shit. Spiderman, Hawkeye, Scarlet Which, who isn't using ranged weapons?
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Warren wrote:
lunchstealer wrote:Of those, only Civil War comes close to this level of weak-ass shit. And even then, it's nuclear-powered-good-but-not-unobtanium-power-armor containing clever but otherwise normal human vs supersoldier with unobtanium shield, super strength, and super healing, but no ranged weapons other than throwing said shield really hard, and neither suddenly has powers never seen before, nor do either just completely forget about powers they've been using throughout the film.
Iron Man and War Machine are loaded with range weapons. Ant Man breaks out a never seen before power in the splash page battle.

ETA
Well shit. Spiderman, Hawkeye, Scarlet Which, who isn't using ranged weapons?
Ranged weapons aren't the point. Iron Man always had them. The final fight between Iron Man and Caps doesn't have either of them suddenly displaying 20x the power they've shown previously, and both use every trick in their book to win (although Rogers is holding back some because he doesn't want to fight Iron Man in the first place).

The problem with Civil War is just that the final fight is kind of contrived, and goes on too long, like this one, and the motivations are a bit thin, just like this one. But where even that fight is better, is that it's consistent with their previous abilities.

Ant-Man's extra power is just an extension of his normal power, and mostly just leads to him stomping around some, distracting the lawful-goods while the chaotic goods make their escape. It's not god-mode in a way that's going to make his future fights seem silly when he doesn't break it out.
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Post by Sandy » 05 Jun 2017, 14:24

lunchstealer wrote:Ant-Man's extra power is just an extension of his normal power, and mostly just leads to him stomping around some, distracting the lawful-goods while the chaotic goods make their escape. It's not god-mode in a way that's going to make his future fights seem silly when he doesn't break it out.
It's also canon in the development of the ant-man tech. First shrinking, then growing.
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Post by Mo » 17 Jun 2017, 22:23

Wonder Woman was a very good first 80% of a movie ruined by the last 20%. Also, I co-sign lunchstealer's analysis. Though one defense of her busting out new powers:

They did Chekov's gun some of those super powers in the very beginning and she was figuring out the whole being half God thing. Though if she never uses it again, it's some bullshit.

Oh and regarding the Superfriends movie, why did they try to make Aquaman XXXtreme by turning his trident into a pentadent?
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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 17 Jun 2017, 22:59

Mo wrote:Wonder Woman was a very good first 80% of a movie ruined by the last 20%. Also, I co-sign lunchstealer's analysis. Though one defense of her busting out new powers:

They did Chekov's gun some of those super powers in the very beginning and she was figuring out the whole being half God thing. Though if she never uses it again, it's some bullshit.

Oh and regarding the Superfriends movie, why did they try to make Aquaman XXXtreme by turning his trident into a pentadent?
I would not be surprised if explanation of powers growth was left on the cutting room floor.
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You guys don't have to hide spoilers in these threads. The whole reason for dedicated threads is to create segregated spaces so people who haven't seen it yet can avoid spoilers. Also there's an alert in the OP.
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Hugh Akston wrote:You guys don't have to hide spoilers in these threads. The whole reason for dedicated threads is to create segregated spaces so people who haven't seen it yet can avoid spoilers. Also there's an alert in the OP.
Spoilers isn't in the thread title, so I stick with spoiler warnings.
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lunchstealer wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:You guys don't have to hide spoilers in these threads. The whole reason for dedicated threads is to create segregated spaces so people who haven't seen it yet can avoid spoilers. Also there's an alert in the OP.
Spoilers isn't in the thread title, so I stick with spoiler warnings.
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That you guys need a thread title to tell you how to live your lives is exactly why libertarianism will never work.
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Hugh Akston wrote:That you guys need a thread title to tell you how to live your lives is exactly why libertarianism will never work.
For me it's less about the thread title and more that this is a grab bag thread rather than a dedicated WW thread.
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Also that. If you come here with the latest hot Jason Momoa pics, but are a week behind on major blockbuster viewing, hiding the spoilers seems neighborly.
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