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Post by Hugh Akston » 13 Mar 2019, 01:07

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But in the final fight sequence, weren't a sizable fraction of the people at SHIELD headquarters working for Hydra? It wasn't like everyone went after the few bad apples, it was more like the whole place broke out into fighting, and a nontrivial fraction of them were fighting for Hydra.

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Post by thoreau » 13 Mar 2019, 01:44

I didn't mean to say that everyone in SHIELD was Hydra, but every unit and level in the org seemed to have a nontrivial number of Hydra agents, and I just never bought that. A Hydra cell? Sure. Hydra at every level so that like half the people in the room are shooting at the other half? Seemed dumb.

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Post by Eric the .5b » 13 Mar 2019, 04:42

thoreau wrote:
13 Mar 2019, 01:44
I didn't mean to say that everyone in SHIELD was Hydra, but every unit and level in the org seemed to have a nontrivial number of Hydra agents, and I just never bought that. A Hydra cell? Sure. Hydra at every level so that like half the people in the room are shooting at the other half? Seemed dumb.
I don't think there were any scenes where randos were shooting at each other. You had the tactical crew trying to intimidate guys in the control center, a gaggle of them going down to run the carriers, etc. It was basically the Hydra segments acting on the plan and everyone else on SHIELD going variations on "WTF, is this real?" and "Fuck no, this is not happening on my watch!" after Rogers' speech.

Really, the part that naggles me is not the degree of infiltration since WW2, the time frame of generations. It's only that SHIELD is implied to have been NSA-levels of not being an acknowledged thing that even gives Hydra not being caught (modulo a few silencing murders) a 70s wood veneer of plausibility. And then you remember that people who want Real Absolute Power aren't actually willing to work on a multi-generational timeframe, because they want Real Absolute Power.

(But the rest of the movie more than lets me deal with those logical problems. It has been the one CMU movie that all but said, "Made for Eric the .5b".)
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Post by Dangerman » 13 Mar 2019, 09:13

Can anyone tell me if Frank Castle actually does any punishing in Season 2? Season 1 was glaringly punishment-free.

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Post by Ellie » 13 Mar 2019, 10:40

Dangerman wrote:
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Can anyone tell me if Frank Castle actually does any punishing in Season 2? Season 1 was glaringly punishment-free.
Very little. He mostly runs around with an annoying teenage girl who is very annoying and annoys everyone a lot.
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Post by Dangerman » 13 Mar 2019, 11:20

I'm so disappointed, because Punisher was the one comic my mom didn't like me to read, because it was non-stop violence and military pr0n, with a few explanatory panels to tell you what type of ammunition just blew off those dudes' faces. Which is why I read it.

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Ellie wrote:
13 Mar 2019, 10:40
Dangerman wrote:
13 Mar 2019, 09:13
Can anyone tell me if Frank Castle actually does any punishing in Season 2? Season 1 was glaringly punishment-free.
Very little. He mostly runs around with an annoying teenage girl who is very annoying and annoys everyone a lot.
Is that her superpower?
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 13 Mar 2019, 11:22

So Sabrina followed him around?
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
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So Sabrina followed him around?
Nice.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 13 Mar 2019, 17:46

I thought Captain Marvel was a snooze. Picked up a bit in the last third or so, but it's an eminently forgettable MCU flick.

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Post by Ellie » 13 Mar 2019, 17:57

Speaking of forgettable, I know I've seen Winter Soldier but I honestly don't remember it at all. Is that the one with the fight in the elevator?
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Post by thoreau » 13 Mar 2019, 18:01

I'm agnostic about the elevator incident.
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Post by lunchstealer » 13 Mar 2019, 18:04

Pham Nuwen wrote:
13 Mar 2019, 11:22
So Sabrina followed him around?
She's not nearly annoying enough. Wait Keirnan Shipka or Melisa Joan Hart?

Either way I keep having to remind myself to male gaze Miranda Otto because Shipka is three years younger than snackstealer.
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Post by Ellie » 14 Mar 2019, 18:03

Clint, we need to talk ... ABOUT YOUR HAIR
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Post by Hugh Akston » 14 Mar 2019, 18:34

He obviously lost his family in the Snap. That sort of trauma is the only possible excuse for the shaved sides fauxhawk.
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Post by thoreau » 14 Mar 2019, 18:37

Thanos was unable to kill Hawkeye, but he did turn some of his hairs to dust. Now Hawkeye must fight the mad Titan with the only weapon that makes sense when fighting a super-powerful alien armed with infinity stones: A bow and arrow.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 14 Mar 2019, 18:58

Mohawkeye for the win!

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Post by Pham Nuwen » 14 Mar 2019, 22:04

The coolest guy in my cohort has that haircut. I will defend its honor.
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Post by Aresen » 14 Mar 2019, 22:34

thoreau wrote:
14 Mar 2019, 18:37
Thanos was unable to kill Hawkeye, but he did turn some of his hairs to dust. Now Hawkeye must fight the mad Titan with the only weapon that makes sense when fighting a super-powerful alien armed with infinity stones: A bow and arrow.
In any superheroverse, that makes total sense.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 15 Mar 2019, 19:50

Shem wrote:
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lunchstealer wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 21:56
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 20:24
So Marvel has officially suspended production of GotG3, which tells me that they have already gone down the list of replacement directors, all of whom mysteriously declined to work with the company whose official policy is to fire people based on the bad faith fauxtrage of alt-right Twitter trolls.

So what are the odds at this point that they a) hire Gunn back, b) find a green director hungry enough to do it, or c) drag this cash cow behind the barn and shoot it?
A - is the most likely, I think.
Especially since the cast seems to be backing Gunn, and even Disney isn't brazen enough to think they can recast Drax, Starlord and Gamora.
It was A
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Post by Aresen » 15 Mar 2019, 20:04

Hugh Akston wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 19:50
Shem wrote:
12 Sep 2018, 09:53
lunchstealer wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 21:56
Hugh Akston wrote:
25 Aug 2018, 20:24
So Marvel has officially suspended production of GotG3, which tells me that they have already gone down the list of replacement directors, all of whom mysteriously declined to work with the company whose official policy is to fire people based on the bad faith fauxtrage of alt-right Twitter trolls.

So what are the odds at this point that they a) hire Gunn back, b) find a green director hungry enough to do it, or c) drag this cash cow behind the barn and shoot it?
A - is the most likely, I think.
Especially since the cast seems to be backing Gunn, and even Disney isn't brazen enough to think they can recast Drax, Starlord and Gamora.
It was A
In general, most series would benefit from C. By the third installment, the jokes are tired, it's been done to death and even the audience is bored. Unfortunately, there is generally enough cash left to be milked that studios won't do the humane thing.
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