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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 06 May 2018, 11:48

Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 04:50
All I'm going to say is, from a character perspective, having Thanos be sexually attracted to Death makes a lot more sense. I mean, "gee Thanos, what are you going to do in 300 years when literally the *exact* same problems come up, since you haven't actually done anything to engender homeostasis in your victims, and most of the universe has no idea their friends are dead because Thanos doesn't like it when you fuck too successfully? You didn't think that far? Wait, I thought you were supposed to be the most brilliant member of a brilliant race?"
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Guys, the best, dumbest thing that could happen would be if there is a time ribbon where the MCU and X-Men universe gets merged. Could be Phoenix, could be Thanos, maybe Magik. Good guys win when Cable shoots a night defeated Thanks in the face.
I was thinking that a third of the way through the movie. You know that's exactly what they're planning to do.
They might do some kind of universe merge thing at some point, and they have stories as templates for that, but I'd be surprised if they had it planned for the next movie. The merger hasn't been approved yet and that might be "gun jumping," i.e., executing the merger before its approval, which is illegal.
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Post by Mo » 06 May 2018, 12:10

They could use the same template as having Spider-Man in the marvel movies, since he’s a Sony property.
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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by thoreau » 06 May 2018, 12:42

Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 04:50
All I'm going to say is, from a character perspective, having Thanos be sexually attracted to Death makes a lot more sense. I mean, "gee Thanos, what are you going to do in 300 years when literally the *exact* same problems come up, since you haven't actually done anything to engender homeostasis in your victims, and most of the universe has no idea their friends are dead because Thanos doesn't like it when you fuck too successfully? You didn't think that far? Wait, I thought you were supposed to be the most brilliant member of a brilliant race?"
If he can snap his fingers and make half the sentient* beings in the universe, surely he can make his voice boom down from the sky on each and every inhabited world and proclaim (in the local language) "Thanos killed half your friends and family because you fuck too successfully! Now wrap it up or next time he'll spare your really annoying relatives!"

Or at least snap his fingers and kill a few babies from time to time.

*I assume he only wiped out half the sentients, and not half of all life. Because if he wiped out half the photosynthesizers, half the nitrogen fixers, and half of everything else in the various ecological niches, he didn't fix the problem of the ratio of population to carrying capacity.
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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by Shem » 06 May 2018, 13:28

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
06 May 2018, 11:48
Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 04:50
All I'm going to say is, from a character perspective, having Thanos be sexually attracted to Death makes a lot more sense. I mean, "gee Thanos, what are you going to do in 300 years when literally the *exact* same problems come up, since you haven't actually done anything to engender homeostasis in your victims, and most of the universe has no idea their friends are dead because Thanos doesn't like it when you fuck too successfully? You didn't think that far? Wait, I thought you were supposed to be the most brilliant member of a brilliant race?"
Fin Fang Foom wrote:
04 May 2018, 19:40
Guys, the best, dumbest thing that could happen would be if there is a time ribbon where the MCU and X-Men universe gets merged. Could be Phoenix, could be Thanos, maybe Magik. Good guys win when Cable shoots a night defeated Thanks in the face.
I was thinking that a third of the way through the movie. You know that's exactly what they're planning to do.
They might do some kind of universe merge thing at some point, and they have stories as templates for that, but I'd be surprised if they had it planned for the next movie. The merger hasn't been approved yet and that might be "gun jumping," i.e., executing the merger before its approval, which is illegal.
Not really. They've already been planning a major retool for after the next Avengers movie. Almost everyone's contract ends after that, so they're already talking about major changes for Phase 4. All they really need to do to set it up is end with Thanos beaten, and then put the X-Men or the Fantastic Four into the last few minutes of the movie. Then you're either set up for the next stage, or you can ignore it if things don't work out.
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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by Shem » 06 May 2018, 14:30

thoreau wrote:
06 May 2018, 12:42
Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 04:50
All I'm going to say is, from a character perspective, having Thanos be sexually attracted to Death makes a lot more sense. I mean, "gee Thanos, what are you going to do in 300 years when literally the *exact* same problems come up, since you haven't actually done anything to engender homeostasis in your victims, and most of the universe has no idea their friends are dead because Thanos doesn't like it when you fuck too successfully? You didn't think that far? Wait, I thought you were supposed to be the most brilliant member of a brilliant race?"
If he can snap his fingers and make half the sentient* beings in the universe, surely he can make his voice boom down from the sky on each and every inhabited world and proclaim (in the local language) "Thanos killed half your friends and family because you fuck too successfully! Now wrap it up or next time he'll spare your really annoying relatives!"

Or at least snap his fingers and kill a few babies from time to time.
You really think the Chitauri or the Nova Corps or whoever they're planning to sub in for the Shi'ar or Brood would take that as anything other than a request for everyone to come together and go fuck Thanos' shit up? Especially since he broke his gauntlet using it, meaning he's back to using the stones individually, since he liked the people who could have made him another one.

Even if it didn't, 300 years is enough for everyone who remembered Thanos' birth control advice to be dead for several generations. No, him having a hard-on for Death is actually significantly more comprehensible from a character perspective.
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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by thoreau » 06 May 2018, 15:23

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Post by Fin Fang Foom » 06 May 2018, 15:55

Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 13:28
Fin Fang Foom wrote:
06 May 2018, 11:48
Shem wrote:
06 May 2018, 04:50
All I'm going to say is, from a character perspective, having Thanos be sexually attracted to Death makes a lot more sense. I mean, "gee Thanos, what are you going to do in 300 years when literally the *exact* same problems come up, since you haven't actually done anything to engender homeostasis in your victims, and most of the universe has no idea their friends are dead because Thanos doesn't like it when you fuck too successfully? You didn't think that far? Wait, I thought you were supposed to be the most brilliant member of a brilliant race?"
Fin Fang Foom wrote:
04 May 2018, 19:40
Guys, the best, dumbest thing that could happen would be if there is a time ribbon where the MCU and X-Men universe gets merged. Could be Phoenix, could be Thanos, maybe Magik. Good guys win when Cable shoots a night defeated Thanks in the face.
I was thinking that a third of the way through the movie. You know that's exactly what they're planning to do.
They might do some kind of universe merge thing at some point, and they have stories as templates for that, but I'd be surprised if they had it planned for the next movie. The merger hasn't been approved yet and that might be "gun jumping," i.e., executing the merger before its approval, which is illegal.
Not really. They've already been planning a major retool for after the next Avengers movie. Almost everyone's contract ends after that, so they're already talking about major changes for Phase 4. All they really need to do to set it up is end with Thanos beaten, and then put the X-Men or the Fantastic Four into the last few minutes of the movie. Then you're either set up for the next stage, or you can ignore it if things don't work out.
Yeah, my initial idea was for a more substantive merger in the next movie, but, sure, they could do a post-credits scene or whatever.

I assume the neo-Avengers will be made up of Ant-Man, Black Panther, Captain Marvel (gotta have some Captain), Dr. Strange, and, depending on how she does, the Wasp. Maybe also Vision and Scarlet Witch.

Deadpool would do entertaining bits on the real reason the universes merged.

I expect deep in some Disney lab, there is a team trying to figure out how to get the Fantastic Four script to work.
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Re: To Infinity War and Beyond: the MCU Thread with Spoilers

Post by Shem » 06 May 2018, 19:35

They already have 95% of Avengers 4 filmed, so it'd pretty much have to be a teaser thing.

Fantastic Four would be easy. Chuck the origin story, and get the guy who wrote the first National Treasures movie to do the script. The Fantastic Four aren't supposed to be "fuck shit up fam" superheroes, they're supposed to be weird quirky Fantastic Voyage heroes. I mean, they beat Galactus by having a 12-foot-tall baldo guide the Human Torch to Galactus' house in order to Burglary 2 a handgun that could blow the galaxy away, then used it to extort Galactus into agreeing to only feed on planets that lack sentient life. That can work as a movie, but it's really fucking weird, and not the sort of thing you can do if you want to also take yourself seriously.
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Post by thoreau » 16 May 2018, 19:58

Go to 4:30.

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Post by Ellie » 19 May 2018, 22:09

Finally saw Black Panther. If we were real woke white people we would have seen it earlier, I suppose. It was ... fine. I liked that it wasn't an origin story or a "look at my suit's cool powers" movie, as we have had plenty of those, but I don't know how well what it actually was worked for me. Killmonger was an extremely sympathetic villain in many ways, especially his last words, while T'Challa moped around most of the movie (hell, he spent half of it dead!) so it was hard to root for anyone especially. T'Challa didn't have a personality and his sister was a missed opportunity for an interesting character. Give me more about the actual culture and tech of the Wakandans and less virtual reality vehicle driving, please! Really I would rather see a movie about the incredibly hot General Okoye.

It probably also didn't help that we just saw Thor: Ragnarok last week, which I absolutely ADORED, so this paled (no pun intended) (that's racist) in comparison.
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Post by Shem » 20 May 2018, 00:56

Deadpool was good and extremely funny, though I liked the first one better. The Rusty Collins character wasn't very likable, and it was hard for me to care about his subplot as a result. I also get why Reynolds is eager to return to a lower-key style in terms of effects; it did seem a bit lazier than the first one in terms of writing.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 20 May 2018, 15:54

It took me a while to realize why I liked the first Deadpool movie better than Deadpool 2. The humor, starting with the credits, was fresh in the first movie and came as a welcome surprise to most movie fare. The second one was probably as well written, directed, etc., but it no longer surprised. That said, there were lots of good lines and funny moments.

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