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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by Kolohe » 29 Mar 2018, 20:42

Fleetwood mac is always their best musical choice.

They weren't very clear that Elizabeth is totally stressed out and at the end of her rope while Philip has perfect inner peace. Maybe they needed to show it a 4th time and say it outright a third time.

I do wonder if they just decided to dump the Philip's first kid storyline. No indication of it in this episode and none in the supersized 'coming this season' supercut coda. (Plus the the jump)

I'm...not upset that the sailor that was holding Paige's id hostage got shredded.
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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by thoreau » 29 Mar 2018, 20:49

What is the KGB's goal with Paige? If she just focuses on being a really good student in Political Science or Public Policy or whatever she's majoring in, and goes for an internship in the federal government, she could embark on a career that gives her access to all sorts of information.

If she runs around town in disguises, spending long periods parked outside buildings with heavy security, she might raise red flags that get in the way of that.

I suppose that if she spends a bit of time taking small risks for the KGB she might develop deeper feelings of loyalty (shared danger generally cultivates deeper bonds than watching Russian movies), but she can only go so far with that. If they really want her to use her American birth certificate in the service of the Rodina then they need to let her focus on her GPA, her extracurriculars, and internships, not running around risking arrest.
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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by Kolohe » 29 Mar 2018, 21:09

My own fan fiction explanation was that the KGB is taking more risks, perhaps excessive and reckless ones, because Gorby is now in charge and they are getting deperate

But then why would they be ok with Philip retiring?

Another explanation is that Elizabeth is the one that's freelancing a bit, trying to do the Obi Wan thing and train an apprentice but without the right structure or teacher training. (Or explicit permission).

There was something (which i'm not sure I heard right) that indicated that the third woman on the op didn't know that Paige was Elizabeth's daughter. Which is probably good opsec, but also might be because it's not quite kosher.
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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by thoreau » 29 Mar 2018, 21:42

There were a lot of scenes where it wasn't quite clear who was a spy, who was a target, who was security, or why anyone was there. Just people sitting and watching or being watched.

It was strongly implied last season that Oleg and Philip are brothers. I wonder if they will run with that. I can see Philip and Oleg each talking about why they tried to get out of the game and spilling family secrets.
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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by thoreau » 29 Mar 2018, 22:10

Check out this preview:


Why is Paige sleeping with the interns when she could BE one of the interns? Wasn't the entire point of Second Generation Illegals that they could pass background checks and get the sensitive jobs instead of manipulating the people in sensitive jobs?
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Re: We know the Russians love their children too

Post by thoreau » 12 Apr 2018, 21:16

I thought yesterday's episode was pretty good. It held my interest. But it doesn't feel like it's building up to a resolution for these characters. It still feels like they're just keeping on keeping on, doing their thing. I don't feel like there's an actual point to Gennady and Sofia. Stan has been conflicted about the work for so long; something should be happening that makes him question it. And they can only spend so much time teasing us about Stan's new wife or girlfriend. (Which is she?) They've been together for several years, even though he's been out of counter-intelligence, so if she is a spy she's way more patient than any other Directorate S agent we've ever seen. And after all these years, only NOW does she suggest joining the FBI?

Whether or not Renee is a spy, they are teasing us with this, and somebody needs to actually go somewhere with their suspicions. Either somebody at the FBI should get suspicious, or Philip should get suspicious and go down some path that takes his character somewhere interesting. They shouldn't just spend 7 more episodes being all "Well, you know, maybe. Maybe not."
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