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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Kolohe » 21 Jun 2016, 15:42

I'm just saying it took a lot less money to throw together some men with muskets & cannon than to throw together a frigate, and a lot less wasteful to tell all the dudes to go home and bring their guns with them than to take apart a frigate every two years.
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Post by Sandy » 21 Jun 2016, 16:37

Aresen wrote:OK, it's the Washington Examiner, but the story is still funny:

Columnist fails gun check, blames store owners

To be fair, here is the columnist's own version:

STEINBERG: Would-be terrorists can buy guns, but a reporter? No.
OTOH, I liked how he said "a friend" had problems with alcohol and divorce in the article...
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 21 Jun 2016, 16:41

Kolohe wrote:I'm just saying it took a lot less money to throw together some men with muskets & cannon than to throw together a frigate, and a lot less wasteful to tell all the dudes to go home and bring their guns with them than to take apart a frigate every two years.
Oh, sure. Not that the Army tells recruits to bring their own weapons these days. Anyway, it isn't that I'm disagreeing with you. I know, for example, that mothballing ships is outrageously expensive. But by the same token I've been absolutely flabbergasted at the expenses the government ends up paying just to close an installation.

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Post by Eric the .5b » 21 Jun 2016, 21:50

Aresen wrote:OK, it's the Washington Examiner, but the story is still funny:

Columnist fails gun check, blames store owners

To be fair, here is the columnist's own version:

STEINBERG: Would-be terrorists can buy guns, but a reporter? No.
When it becomes perfectly fair to ask, "So, when did you stop beating your wife, anyway?"
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Post by Andrew » 21 Jun 2016, 22:34

There's nothing more delightful than reading online articles about what the second amendment really means by journalists whose research consists of 10 minutes of Google searches.
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Post by JD » 22 Jun 2016, 10:51

Gersh Kuntzmann, he who found firing an AR-15 at the range to be the scariest thing imaginable, doubles down on the stupid. According to Kuntzmann, an AR-15 is a "weapon of mass destruction" that should only be in the hands of soldiers and cops. Why cops need a "weapon of mass destruction" that only has the purpose of killing as many people as possible as quickly as possible, he doesn't bother to explain.
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Post by JasonL » 22 Jun 2016, 11:14

So we did find WMD in Iraq after all!

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Post by Andrew » 14 Oct 2016, 17:22

A tiny bit of news mostly buried in today's Trumpdemonium: Lawsuit against Remington filed by Sandy Hook families dismissed.
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Post by Warren » 14 Oct 2016, 19:08

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Post by pistoffnick » 06 Jan 2017, 15:24

Single serving, single use silencer for your Ruger 10/22:

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Post by pistoffnick » 27 Mar 2017, 12:57

Surprisingly balanced documentary about smart guns:
http://www.everydaynodaysoff.com/2017/0 ... qus_thread

Was expecting more of an anti-gunnery slant.

The ATF vault scene is awesome. When he pulls the trigger (on an unloaded gun, thankfully) while pointed at his cameraman is not so awesome.
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Post by JasonL » 27 Mar 2017, 13:49

I will RTFA at home, but most all coverage I've ever seen of the subject is terrible. One side pretends when convenient that they want to make the things safer as in less prone to accidental discharge by owner or kids or whatever, but they absolutely do not want that. They want to be able to aggregate those numbers with homicides and suicides so the numbers are "more deadly than automobiles".

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Post by pistoffnick » 18 Apr 2017, 16:42

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Post by Mo » 18 Apr 2017, 17:22

That's fucking stupid. My property, my rules. If you don't like it, you don't give me additional obligations, just get off my property.
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Post by pistoffnick » 18 Apr 2017, 17:48

I can see both sides.

My employer has a guns banned policy. There is very little parking around that is not owned by them. If I were a concealed carry permit holder, I would have to leave my gun at home every work day. I couldn't even lock it in my vehicle because the vehicle is parked on company property.
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Post by Warren » 18 Apr 2017, 19:14

pistoffnick wrote:I can see both sides.

My employer has a guns banned policy. There is very little parking around that is not owned by them. If I were a concealed carry permit holder, I would have to leave my gun at home every work day. I couldn't even lock it in my vehicle because the vehicle is parked on company property.
Leave it home or don't work there. Either way, you don't have any special liability to your employer because you have a cc permit. By the same logic everyone with a cc permit could be held liable for the safety of their co-workers should anyone actually pull their gun.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 19 Apr 2017, 13:57

Mo wrote:
That's fucking stupid. My property, my rules. If you don't like it, you don't give me additional obligations, just get off my property.
Whether it meets the libertarian decoder ring test or not, those sorts of impositions are as old as dram shop laws.

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Post by JD » 26 May 2017, 11:13

Roman sling bullets may have been as powerful as a .44 Magnum. The authors, not being gun geeks, do not go into exactly what they mean by "stopping power" - energy? momentum? some combination of those and cross-section and whatever else? - but it's interesting all the same.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Kolohe » 26 May 2017, 12:22

Felix sentis punkus?
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Post by tr0g » 26 May 2017, 13:00

Wait, what? Somebody can't do math. To get a 50g projectile to have equivalent energy of even a low end .44 Mag round it needs to be going considerably faster than 100 mph. 100 mph is only ~150 ft/s. Low end .44 Mag rounds are running ~1200 ft/s with a 16g bullet. I get that sling bullet needs to be going about 650 ft/s, which is considerably faster than 100 mph. Motherfucker ain't been born that can throw a sling bullet that fast.

Plus round projectiles are crap at holding velocity over distance and all that jazz...
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Post by JD » 26 May 2017, 13:22

I was thinking maybe they meant momentum (Mv) rather than energy (Mv2), but you're right - the article says "the solid ones flew at up to 100 miles per hour", and at 100 mph, a 50g projectile doesn't have anything like the momentum or KE of a .44 Magnum bullet.

That said, 100 mph may be kind of low. Baseball pitchers throw baseballs almost that fast unaided, so I would expect trained slingers working with slings to be rather faster (or else there would have been little point to using slings in the first place). According to Wikipedia, the world record for distance slinging is about 1400 feet for a 52g projectile; I challenge anybody to throw a ballistic projectile 1400 feet unaided.

(BTW, my work blocks slinging.org, because "weapons". But not the Wikipedia entry on the .44 Magnum. *eyeroll*)
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Post by nicole » 20 Jun 2017, 11:24

WBEZ asks Chicago aldermen whether they carry: http://interactive.wbez.org/everyotherhour/aldermen/
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