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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Andrew » 21 Sep 2018, 11:23

The government would never make up allegations against a political enemy. They'd never do something like claim someone had hired a hitman to kill 6 people to smear them in a pending case and then never bring those charges.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Warren » 21 Sep 2018, 12:22

Dangerman wrote:
21 Sep 2018, 10:56
Don't worry, the SPLC's "Hatewatch Team" is on the case.

https://www.splcenter.org/hatewatch/201 ... on-bitcoin
Notorious crypto-anarchist and antigovernment extremist Cody Rutledge Wilson....
:roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll: :roll:
What's with the eyerolls? Cody not notorious enough for you? Or extremist?

I'm not surprised he had an escape plan, given his activism. If he did what they say he did, that's more stupid than I'd have credited him with. Andrew's suggestion that he's being set up was my first thought as well. OTOH smarter and more powerful men have been brought down by their dicks. Indeed, it seems to be the case that the more intelligence and self discipline a man exhibits climbing the ladder, the more subservient he becomes to his prurient desires.

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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by lunchstealer » 21 Sep 2018, 14:35

Warren wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 20:36
Ellie wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 18:05
a 3D-printed handgun made of plastic, the same material used in Lego blocks
I hope they meant that it's the exact same type of plastic used in Legos. Because otherwise that's needless sensationalizing.
Material science is not my strong suit, but I'd be surprised if it's the same plastic. Legos are made from high pressure injection molding, a completely different process from 3D-printing.
And even if the polymer is technically the same, how it's processed can be completely different and lead to very different properties. A lot of injection-molded bottles are the same polymers as stamp-molded tub-style containers, but they have pretty significantly different physical characteristics.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by tr0g » 21 Sep 2018, 17:27

lunchstealer wrote:
21 Sep 2018, 14:35
Warren wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 20:36
Ellie wrote:
20 Sep 2018, 18:05
a 3D-printed handgun made of plastic, the same material used in Lego blocks
I hope they meant that it's the exact same type of plastic used in Legos. Because otherwise that's needless sensationalizing.
Material science is not my strong suit, but I'd be surprised if it's the same plastic. Legos are made from high pressure injection molding, a completely different process from 3D-printing.
And even if the polymer is technically the same, how it's processed can be completely different and lead to very different properties. A lot of injection-molded bottles are the same polymers as stamp-molded tub-style containers, but they have pretty significantly different physical characteristics.
3d printing is a generally vague concept covering a multitude of sins, but for home level 3d printers the two main materials are ABS and PLA. ABS is one of the most widely used plastics out there, and what they make most Lego out of.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Dangerman » 21 Sep 2018, 23:24

I'm eye-rolling at lots of things, starting with "crypto-anarchist" would normally be taken to mean "someone who has hidden anarchist beliefs" not "likes digital currency" and its redundant to call him an anarchist and an anti-government extremist in the same breath. I mean that's two fails in the headline.

Then the article shows us how bad he is because he talks to bad people.

I can totally believe that he had sex with that girl, and I can also believe that TPTB are stacking whatever they can against him.

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Post by JD » 24 Oct 2018, 16:47

While I was in Dallas recently, I went to the shooting range, which I haven't done in a couple years, and I took my wife's assistant, E, who had never fired a gun before but expressed strong interest in going. We rented a Springfield 1911, because I had never gotten to shoot a 1911 before and figured I should have some hands-on time with such an iconic pistol, and a 6" .357 revolver (can't remember the make offhand). Even though E is female and had never been shooting before, I feel like .38 Special out of a heavy .357 is eminently manageable for anyone who isn't very weak or recoil-sensitive, and E is about six feet tall and reasonably strong.

Had a pretty good time at the range - my accuracy was probably better than it's ever been before with an unfamiliar gun, and I liked both guns. I found the slide release on the 1911 stiff as hell, though, which seems to be a common complaint. Also, the diamond checkering on the grip bit unpleasantly into my hand under recoil. E preferred the revolver, and the big surprise to me was that she didn't find the .357 Magnum rounds any worse than the .38 Special rounds. Still, maybe we should have gone with a .22 revolver or autopistol since it was her first time, but she did fine.
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Post by JasonL » 24 Oct 2018, 16:50

One of the worst ideas in all of gundom (gundam????) is that "the little lady should shoot a small barreled revolver". Its stupid. They are the hardest weapons to control, shoot quickly, reload etc. Go big first, but not gigantic in grip size - like a g19 or a single stack 9mm or something.

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Post by nicole » 24 Oct 2018, 16:54

some ladies have big hands jason
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JasonL » 24 Oct 2018, 17:01

i'm not sure what the number of women who find a g19 too small to comfortably hold might be, but it's not a lot. Knock yourself out if you need the g20 tho.

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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Eric the .5b » 24 Oct 2018, 17:53

JasonL wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 16:50
One of the worst ideas in all of gundom (gundam????)
Only if you're talking guns for one of these:

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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JD » 25 Oct 2018, 11:58

JasonL wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 16:50
One of the worst ideas in all of gundom (gundam????) is that "the little lady should shoot a small barreled revolver". Its stupid. They are the hardest weapons to control, shoot quickly, reload etc. Go big first, but not gigantic in grip size - like a g19 or a single stack 9mm or something.
Yeah, I did steer her away from some mini-revolvers that caught her eye. A large-frame 6" .357 looks huge and menacing, but it's the very size and weight that make it less punishing to shoot. I once shot one of those airweight .357s, and it was a miserable experience, like being smacked in the hand with a hammer every time.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by tr0g » 25 Oct 2018, 12:05

JD wrote:
25 Oct 2018, 11:58
JasonL wrote:
24 Oct 2018, 16:50
One of the worst ideas in all of gundom (gundam????) is that "the little lady should shoot a small barreled revolver". Its stupid. They are the hardest weapons to control, shoot quickly, reload etc. Go big first, but not gigantic in grip size - like a g19 or a single stack 9mm or something.
Yeah, I did steer her away from some mini-revolvers that caught her eye. A large-frame 6" .357 looks huge and menacing, but it's the very size and weight that make it less punishing to shoot. I once shot one of those airweight .357s, and it was a miserable experience, like being smacked in the hand with a hammer every time.
Snubnose .44 Mag is hands down the worst fucking pistol I have ever fired. There is no good reason for those to exist. The arthritis in my hands is making reconsider my 1911s anyway. I not sure I could legitimately fire a 2" .44 Mag ever again safely.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JD » 18 Dec 2018, 11:12

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Post by tr0g » 18 Dec 2018, 11:30

JD wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 11:12
Definitely under the "whatnot" category:
New York's nunchucks ban is unconstitutional, federal court rules
Nunchucks have always been primarily useful for providing your friends with lolz when you hit yourself in the nuts with them. Why anybody felt a need to ban unintentional physical comedy is beyond me.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JasonL » 18 Dec 2018, 11:31

Ahh the good ol days of "numbchucks" and "death stars". :lol:

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Post by tr0g » 18 Dec 2018, 11:40

JasonL wrote:
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Ahh the good ol days of "numbchucks" and "death stars". :lol:
Throwing stars from the dodgy knife place in the crappy mall a part of your childhood too? There was always a knife store, but they kept going out of business so it moved around the mall. And you get the stars but they were barely sharp enough to penetrate cardboard?

I think it's all moved online now. BudK 4EVA!
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by Warren » 18 Dec 2018, 11:49

Nunchucks and throwing stars looked cool to my tween self, but I never once thought it would be fun to play with them. They looked like something you'd have to spend a hundred boring hours practicing with foam rubber and cardboard before you spent another hundred boring hours practicing with the real thing before you could not embarrass yourself.
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Post by JD » 18 Dec 2018, 12:02

It makes me wonder if the switchblade ban could be overturned. Technically, the same argument should apply - they're "arms", and you can't outright ban them just because you don't like them - but they don't have the same historical and sporting appeal.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by lunchstealer » 18 Dec 2018, 15:21

JD wrote:
18 Dec 2018, 12:02
It makes me wonder if the switchblade ban could be overturned. Technically, the same argument should apply - they're "arms", and you can't outright ban them just because you don't like them - but they don't have the same historical and sporting appeal.
The moral panic of "ZOMG EVERYONE CAN CARRY A SWITCHBLADE I SEE MUGGERS AND RAPISTS EVERYWHERE WON'T SOMEONE THINK OF THE WHITE WOMEN" types would be annoying af but presumably switchblades could be treated like handguns with permitting and concealed-carry licensing (although libertarian purity tests require that one object to those as well).

I have to admit that my knee-jerk reaction was 'well switch blades are DIFFERENT' but that's a wholly cultural thing because those bans were more widespread and they were seen as gang things, while nunchucks were clearly the domain of the dork as a kid.
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Post by Jasper » 19 Dec 2018, 10:28

The thing about switchblades is... they kinda suck. You can open a lock-back folder pretty quickly, with one hand, if it has a pin or stud on the blade near the pivot point.

Should they be banned? No. Same with the butterfly flip-folders. Same for any knife with a 2.5" or longer or whateverthefuckthelimitis in some locales.

This could be my simple utilitarian approach to EDC talking, however.
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Post by Warren » 19 Dec 2018, 10:50

Yeah I'm good with making concealable, rapidly deployable knives unregulated. I don't see that being able to pull it out quickly as making it more dangerous. If anything it makes it a better defensive weapon.
Like what even is the worry. That you carry it in your pocket and then just decide to stab the guy that takes the last cruller at the donut shop before he can get his hands up?
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Post by Eric the .5b » 19 Dec 2018, 13:56

Jasper wrote:
19 Dec 2018, 10:28
The thing about switchblades is... they kinda suck. You can open a lock-back folder pretty quickly, with one hand, if it has a pin or stud on the blade near the pivot point.

Should they be banned? No. Same with the butterfly flip-folders. Same for any knife with a 2.5" or longer or whateverthefuckthelimitis in some locales.

This could be my simple utilitarian approach to EDC talking, however.
Heheheh. I actually first got interested in carrying a SAK for EDC after arguing with some Brits hyperventilating over Knife Crime and how anyone who wanted to carry a knife in their pocket is a homicidal monster.

It's the most useful spite-spurred purchase I've ever made.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by lunchstealer » 19 Dec 2018, 15:25

Eric the .5b wrote:
19 Dec 2018, 13:56
Jasper wrote:
19 Dec 2018, 10:28
The thing about switchblades is... they kinda suck. You can open a lock-back folder pretty quickly, with one hand, if it has a pin or stud on the blade near the pivot point.

Should they be banned? No. Same with the butterfly flip-folders. Same for any knife with a 2.5" or longer or whateverthefuckthelimitis in some locales.

This could be my simple utilitarian approach to EDC talking, however.
Heheheh. I actually first got interested in carrying a SAK for EDC after arguing with some Brits hyperventilating over Knife Crime and how anyone who wanted to carry a knife in their pocket is a homicidal monster.

It's the most useful spite-spurred purchase I've ever made.
Between losing an SAK and a multitool to TSA (on separate occasions, both because I forgot they were in my backpack I use as a carryon) and the addition of a cellphone taking limited pocket space, I haven't regularly carried a knife in the past 10-15 years, but before that I often did. The idea that carrying a knife is barbaric is just so goddamned dumb.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JD » 19 Dec 2018, 16:18

lunchstealer wrote:
19 Dec 2018, 15:25
Between losing an SAK and a multitool to TSA (on separate occasions, both because I forgot they were in my backpack I use as a carryon) and the addition of a cellphone taking limited pocket space, I haven't regularly carried a knife in the past 10-15 years, but before that I often did. The idea that carrying a knife is barbaric is just so goddamned dumb.

Amen to that. I carry a SAK pretty much all the time, but it's annoying how often it becomes a problem. The knife comes in handy all the time - admittedly, probably the bottle opener more than anything else... I used to have a Leatherman Wave, and it annoys me that it disappeared somewhere; I'm hoping it's just lost in the apartment.
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Re: Guns and Whatnot.

Post by JasonL » 19 Dec 2018, 16:25

I'm a fan of the small fixed blade like the tdi knife for ease of carry and women needing to stop things that happen to women type applications. You have to be committed to close in on someone who can gut you without any particular skill.

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