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Powerful Mice in Space (The New Star Wars Gripe Thread)

Post by Taktix® » 29 Apr 2014, 13:06

New cast members announced: http://kotaku.com/this-is-the-cast-of-s ... 1569305101
Actors John Boyega, Daisy Ridley, Adam Driver, Oscar Isaac, Andy Serkis, Domhnall Gleeson, and Max von Sydow will join the original stars of the saga, Harrison Ford, Carrie Fisher, Mark Hamill, Anthony Daniels, Peter Mayhew, and Kenny Baker in the new film.
Andy Serkis? Smeagol in space?

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Post by Warren » 29 Apr 2014, 13:16

meh. It'll still be better than the prequels.
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Post by Taktix® » 29 Apr 2014, 13:26

Warren wrote:meh. It'll still be better than the prequels.
So would Shea Labeouf shooting a load on an overhead projector. I meant on the observable scale of awful...
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Taktix® wrote:
Warren wrote:meh. It'll still be better than the prequels.
So would Shea Labeouf shooting a load on an overhead projector. I meant on the observable scale of awful...
Thanks for the fucking mind picture.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 29 Apr 2014, 13:59

Andy Serkis does lots of good work. If you think of a recent movie with a good motion-capture performance, he almost always either did it or consulted on it. He's a no-brainer pick for movies with important robot or alien characters...like a Star Wars movie.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 29 Apr 2014, 14:00

I'm just pleased to know Max von Sydow is alive and working, really.
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Taktix® wrote:
Warren wrote:meh. It'll still be better than the prequels.
So would Shea Labeouf shooting a load on an overhead projector. I meant on the observable scale of awful...
I haven't laughed like that in a while. Thank you.
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Post by tr0g » 29 Apr 2014, 14:07

Taktix® wrote:
Warren wrote:meh. It'll still be better than the prequels.
So would Shea Labeouf shooting a load on an overhead projector. I meant on the observable scale of awful...
It wwould have been plagiarized from an indy release, anyway...
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Post by Painboy » 29 Apr 2014, 14:09

Eric the .5b wrote:I'm just pleased to know Max von Sydow is alive and working, really.
LOL. That was my thought exactly as well.

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Post by thoreau » 29 Apr 2014, 15:08

Yeah, Andy Serkis doesn't bother me for this movie. Truthfully, even having some of the original actors doesn't bother me. However, I hope that some of their characters die and the rest fade into the background with just 1-2 "elder statesperson" scenes in episodes 8 and 9. Let Episode 7 be the transition to a new generation, and let that generation be front and center in 8 and 9.
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Post by Highway » 29 Apr 2014, 15:27

thoreau wrote:Yeah, Andy Serkis doesn't bother me for this movie. Truthfully, even having some of the original actors doesn't bother me. However, I hope that some of their characters die and the rest fade into the background with just 1-2 "elder statesperson" scenes in episodes 8 and 9. Let Episode 7 be the transition to a new generation, and let that generation be front and center in 8 and 9.
So, Star Wars: Generations?
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Post by tr0g » 29 Apr 2014, 15:35

Can we have the elder generation celebrating on Noveyshiy Alderaan when the new, embiggened Death Star 3 shows up? I'm down with that.
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Post by Jennifer » 29 Apr 2014, 19:31

I wonder how "realistic" the new one will be, concerning the actual status quo when Return of the Jedi ended? Vader and the Emperor are dead, the Death Star is gone and the Empire lost its base on Endor--that's bad for the empire, but not fatal to it -- there's still all those stormtroopers and military base planets and Coruscant and the whole entire rest of the galaxy....
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Post by Painboy » 29 Apr 2014, 19:50

Jennifer wrote:I wonder how "realistic" the new one will be, concerning the actual status quo when Return of the Jedi ended? Vader and the Emperor are dead, the Death Star is gone and the Empire lost its base on Endor--that's bad for the empire, but not fatal to it -- there's still all those stormtroopers and military base planets and Coruscant and the whole entire rest of the galaxy....
Well there's a whole Extended Universe that addresses that. Of course whether they take anything from that or not is up in the air. If the old guard is going to be playing age equivalent then the you're looking at 30+ years of events that happened in between episodes 6 and 7. In the EU I think the remnants left over of the Empire are mostly gone by then in the EU.

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Post by Painboy » 29 Apr 2014, 20:01

It sounds like there are three new characters who are going to be the central characters. One of them is a woman. I'm sure there will be all kinds of women in supporting roles. Writer needs to relax.

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Post by Hugh Akston » 29 Apr 2014, 20:03

Painboy wrote:
Jennifer wrote:I wonder how "realistic" the new one will be, concerning the actual status quo when Return of the Jedi ended? Vader and the Emperor are dead, the Death Star is gone and the Empire lost its base on Endor--that's bad for the empire, but not fatal to it -- there's still all those stormtroopers and military base planets and Coruscant and the whole entire rest of the galaxy....
Well there's a whole Extended Universe that addresses that. Of course whether they take anything from that or not is up in the air. If the old guard is going to be playing age equivalent then the you're looking at 30+ years of events that happened in between episodes 6 and 7. In the EU I think the remnants left over of the Empire are mostly gone by then in the EU.
People are kind of freaking out because Disney convened a story committee to decide what parts of the EU to keep and what to get rid of.
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Post by Andrew » 29 Apr 2014, 20:08

I thought they had already said that the EU was going to be ignored.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 29 Apr 2014, 20:12

Andrew wrote:I thought they had already said that the EU was going to be ignored.
Saying they're not going to hold the creative team to the EU isn't the same as saying they are going to discard it wholesale.
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Post by thoreau » 29 Apr 2014, 20:13

Hugh Akston wrote:People are kind of freaking out because Disney convened a story committee to decide what parts of the EU to keep and what to get rid of.
Is this committee a Nebulous Evil Organization, an Omniscient Council of Vagueness, a Secret Circle of Secrets, or something else?
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Post by Painboy » 29 Apr 2014, 20:21

I should probably know better by now but is the EU something people feel really that strongly about? Some of the stuff was good but most of it was kind of crap. From what I perused a good chunk of it was taking minor characters from the films and elevating them to be some one really important who was instrumental in blah blah blah and so getting their own novel. I'm not sure losing the epic saga about the guy who shined Luke's boots that one time on Yavin is a big deal.

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Post by thoreau » 29 Apr 2014, 20:24

Painboy wrote:I should probably know better by now but is the EU something people feel really that strongly about? Some of the stuff was good but most of it was kind of crap. From what I perused a good chunk of it was taking minor characters from the films and elevating them to be some one really important who was instrumental in blah blah blah and so getting their own novel. I'm not sure losing the epic saga about the guy who shined Luke's boots that one time on Yavin is a big deal.
I thought the other half of it was showing that the major characters from the films pretty much never, ever had a normal day, always being involved in some epic adventure between movies, then after the movies fighting the remnants of the Empire or new Sith or the aliens from another galaxy or more Sith or whateverthefuck.
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Post by Mo » 29 Apr 2014, 20:44

Disney should have just purchased the Thrawn series.
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Post by Aresen » 29 Apr 2014, 21:36

Hugh Akston wrote:People are kind of freaking out because Disney convened a story committee to decide what parts of the EU to keep and what to get rid of.
It looks like we will have to nuke California and Central Florida for the good of mankind.
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Post by Shem » 29 Apr 2014, 21:53

Hugh Akston wrote:
Andrew wrote:I thought they had already said that the EU was going to be ignored.
Saying they're not going to hold the creative team to the EU isn't the same as saying they are going to discard it wholesale.
Actually, that's exactly what it means, especially with the "we won't be retelling the old stories." They might use some of the same characters, but I'd lay odds none of the storylines are going to make an appearance. Even the ones that are good aren't that good (the Thrawn books are wholly disposable but for Thrawn and maybe Pelleaon), and the bad ones (85%+ of the New Jedi Order, plus everything that came after) are horrible. Hitting reset on that mess was probably the only thing that could have gotten me interested in the series again.
Mo wrote:Disney should have just purchased the Thrawn series.
They did. They bought the head, the tail, the whole damn thing. It's the biggest reason why JJ Abrams signed on; he wanted to make Star Trek into a multimedia project, with interlocking movies, games, TV shows, and other products. But the fact that the rights are shared between Paramount and CBS meant that getting the rights to do anything was almost impossible. So, he moved to Star Wars, where the fact all rights were held by Lucasfilm, and are now held by Disney, means that he'll be able to do whatever project he wants. Which would be worrisome if the series hadn't spent the past decades in the hands of George Lucas. It's kind of like serving as your own attorney when you're on trial in Best Korea; you might as well; it can't possibly get any worse.
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