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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by JasonL » 13 Mar 2019, 09:51

It's the funding mechanism rather than the idea of UBI itself that may have some effect on the general price level. Yang wants a VAT that is pretty pervasive in the economy to capture a piece of most transactions. That would, it seems to me, create upward push on prices generally because it's a universal increase in cost structure. It would also put downward pressure on the volume of transactions that are executed as all sales taxes do, i.e. net of the tax a marginal purchase won't be worth it.

The question is what is the magnitude of the price effect relative to the magnitude of the effect of giving people money to spend. I don't know the answer to that or even how to guess it. People fond of these things are very generous as Yang is in the assumptions of demand driven growth and the power of the multiplier. I'm quite a bit skeptical about the multiplier being large and I think the the total effect of higher prices is significantly under appreciated by fans.

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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Mo » 13 Mar 2019, 10:26

Dangerman wrote:
13 Mar 2019, 09:15
Does anyone have a good explanation for why prices won't just rise to wipe out the gains of UBI? Is it because the payments are balanced against not using other safety net services?
There's a lot of stuff the money can go to, luxury and staple. So all of it will go up a little due to inflationary effects. However, it is sufficiently broad based, that it has sufficiently poverty amelioration effects. So goes the theory.
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by JasonL » 18 Mar 2019, 17:39

JFC have you guys heard this deep cut on Alex Jones?

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/670/be ... /act-two-2

The guy is a crazy person. What I don't understand and have very uncharitable views about is ... how can there be fans of this person? Why is stupid ass conspiracy so potent a force that you just have to mouth the words at any arbitrary degree of awfulness and people jump right in there with you?

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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by lunchstealer » 18 Mar 2019, 19:57

JasonL wrote:
18 Mar 2019, 17:39
JFC have you guys heard this deep cut on Alex Jones?

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/670/be ... /act-two-2

The guy is a crazy person. What I don't understand and have very uncharitable views about is ... how can there be fans of this person? Why is stupid ass conspiracy so potent a force that you just have to mouth the words at any arbitrary degree of awfulness and people jump right in there with you?
Bitches be crazy, if I understand the recent social psychology papers on the subject.
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Warren » 18 Mar 2019, 20:25

JasonL wrote:
18 Mar 2019, 17:39
JFC have you guys heard this deep cut on Alex Jones?

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/670/be ... /act-two-2

The guy is a crazy person. What I don't understand and have very uncharitable views about is ... how can there be fans of this person? Why is stupid ass conspiracy so potent a force that you just have to mouth the words at any arbitrary degree of awfulness and people jump right in there with you?
You just today became aware of the crazy that is Alex Jones?
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Post by Ellie » 18 Mar 2019, 21:25

Jon Ronson seems like a cool guy but his name sounds so fake that I find it hard to remember to take him seriously.
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Post by dhex » 19 Mar 2019, 06:56

JasonL wrote:
18 Mar 2019, 17:39
JFC have you guys heard this deep cut on Alex Jones?

https://www.thisamericanlife.org/670/be ... /act-two-2

The guy is a crazy person. What I don't understand and have very uncharitable views about is ... how can there be fans of this person? Why is stupid ass conspiracy so potent a force that you just have to mouth the words at any arbitrary degree of awfulness and people jump right in there with you?
the answer to your question is yes.

i heard a lot of secondhand alex jones after 9/11 in ny. it became a thing my more paranoid friends used as entertainment/framing.
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Warren » 19 Mar 2019, 15:37

I subscribe to the view that social median has turned a light on the various moonbat cockroaches we didn't want to believe existed in large numbers.
There is a corollary view that social media has facilitated a population explosion of moonbats. I think there's something to that too, but it's usually overstated. Wackadoodles have always been there and I think it's more true that we take more notice of them than there are many more of them or that they've become more organized, dangerous, etc.
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by JasonL » 19 Mar 2019, 15:44

Counter point. We have measles now and a birther won a presidential election.

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Post by Hugh Akston » 20 Mar 2019, 01:24

A spherical birfer in a vacuum no less.

Also, MMR vaccination rates are pretty consistent all the way back to the dial-up era.
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by JasonL » 20 Mar 2019, 09:40

Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 01:24
A spherical birfer in a vacuum no less.

Also, MMR vaccination rates are pretty consistent all the way back to the dial-up era.
That is interesting. The outbreaks are because of concentrations among the unvaccinated I guess then.

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Post by Dangerman » 20 Mar 2019, 10:46

I'm listening to that now, it's wild. Having Jon Robson talk interview blue collar Texas football coaches with His. Careful. Diction. gives this piece a strange wildlife documentary feel.

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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Kwix » 20 Mar 2019, 22:41

JasonL wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 09:40
Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 01:24
A spherical birfer in a vacuum no less.

Also, MMR vaccination rates are pretty consistent all the way back to the dial-up era.
That is interesting. The outbreaks are because of concentrations among the unvaccinated I guess then.
So, that's a positive mark for social media, yeah?
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Hugh Akston » 21 Mar 2019, 01:46

Kwix wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 22:41
JasonL wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 09:40
Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 01:24
A spherical birfer in a vacuum no less.

Also, MMR vaccination rates are pretty consistent all the way back to the dial-up era.
That is interesting. The outbreaks are because of concentrations among the unvaccinated I guess then.
So, that's a positive mark for social media, yeah?
It's mostly that social media's impact on the anti-vax movement is unclear. It's obviously amplifying dumbshit ignorance, but it's also amplifying expert information, so who knows?
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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Mo » 21 Mar 2019, 07:17

JasonL wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 09:40
Hugh Akston wrote:
20 Mar 2019, 01:24
A spherical birfer in a vacuum no less.

Also, MMR vaccination rates are pretty consistent all the way back to the dial-up era.
That is interesting. The outbreaks are because of concentrations among the unvaccinated I guess then.
Also, I suspect international travel has increased from places without much vaccination as well. I am surprised that vaccination rates have not changed appreciably.

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Re: Podcasts - Watcha listening to?

Post by Warren » 17 Apr 2019, 20:57

Andrew Sullivan is quite the catch for the 5thC, but his was a very boring episode. They spent half the time talking about teh gayz. And then at the end about Roman Catholic Church. Two topics I've heard all I ever care to already. The immigration bit in the middle wasn't bad.
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