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Reading the wiki page, wasn’t Leverage w Timothy Hutton somewhat similar?
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Kolohe wrote: 26 May 2020, 00:12 Reading the wiki page, wasn’t Leverage w Timothy Hutton somewhat similar?
Don't know, but I'll check out the show.
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Leverage is a good show if you're a fan of cheap episodic basic cable action/dramas, which I am. If you liked Burn Notice, you'll like Leverage.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 26 May 2020, 10:42 Leverage is a good show if you're a fan of cheap episodic basic cable action/dramas, which I am. If you liked Burn Notice, you'll like Leverage.
Reading the Wikipedia entry, the shows do sound similar in many respects. In "Hustle," however, while there is quite a bit of wrong-righting, it's still quite clear that they're all clever crooks who grift because it beats working for a living. There's a good bit of fourth-wall breaking, little stop-action scenes where one of the characters explains a crucial plot point or error on someone's part, and probably too much winking at the camera. It's definitely fluff, but again if you like that sort of show, well, you'll probably like it.
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Isn't leverage just lefty revenge fantasies?
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I wouldn't characterize it that way. Most of the villains are unscrupulous businesspeople, but there are also cases involving crooked cops or government agencies. They are usually in a position of power or legal protection relative to the clients. Leverage is more about restorative justice through extralegal means.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 26 May 2020, 13:53 I wouldn't characterize it that way. Most of the villains are unscrupulous businesspeople, but there are also cases involving crooked cops or government agencies. They are usually in a position of power or legal protection relative to the clients. Leverage is more about restorative justice through extralegal means.
Is the then basically the A team with fewer vans and machine guns?
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Kolohe wrote: 26 May 2020, 16:58
Hugh Akston wrote: 26 May 2020, 13:53 I wouldn't characterize it that way. Most of the villains are unscrupulous businesspeople, but there are also cases involving crooked cops or government agencies. They are usually in a position of power or legal protection relative to the clients. Leverage is more about restorative justice through extralegal means.
Is the then basically the A team with fewer vans and machine guns?
More or less
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Kolohe wrote: 26 May 2020, 16:58
Hugh Akston wrote: 26 May 2020, 13:53 I wouldn't characterize it that way. Most of the villains are unscrupulous businesspeople, but there are also cases involving crooked cops or government agencies. They are usually in a position of power or legal protection relative to the clients. Leverage is more about restorative justice through extralegal means.
Is the then basically the A team with fewer vans and machine guns?
Or possibly Remington Steele as white-collar robin hood?

Fuck now I want to see that show actually made with Pierce Brosnan.
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I had somehow never heard of this, but a Burn Notice knock-off with Adam Baldwin in a recurring role? I'm all in.
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Baldwin's only in two episodes, so I wouldn't characterize it as a recurring role. It's not as slick as Burn Notice, but much more of an ensemble cast, so the Boring Main Guy Syndrome is less apparent.
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Jake wrote: 17 May 2020, 23:24 Yesterday, on Netflix, nearly by accident, I watched an episode of "Happy". Then I watched the rest of the first season. And now I'm on episode 3 of 8 of Season Two.

"Happy" is about an alcoholic scumbag ex-cop who now works as a hitman. A little girl is kidnapped. Her imaginary friend, Happy, goes for help and finds the hit man... who can, much to his dismay, see and hear the imaginary friend. Grotesquely violent hilarity ensues.

My best description of the tone is this: Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino have a baby, and that baby invents Pixar. I didn't think I'd like it, but I really, really like it.
We decided to try it based on your description, and halfway through the first episode, my wife says "I love this show so fucking much." I would have kind of described it as a stylistic collision between Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Sin City. Thanks for mentioning it!

In other news, I am finding Bosch season 5 to be the weakest yet. The "308" guys have a very Dick Wolf villain of the week feel to them, a very non-noir feel that does not feel in keeping with the reason of the show, and the "minor characters discussing subplots" issue seems worse than ever.

Kind of feeling the same way about The Walking Dead season 3 too, unfortunately, as most of the characters seem to have come down with a case of the stupids, and Michonne's character is suffering from bad writing as halfway through the season her character still has zero depth.
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I watched "Happy" on Jake's recommendation as well. Went ahead and finished the first season.
I don't see what you guys see. Beyond the gawdaful storytelling, like zombies just showing up and then, poof forgotten about, it's just boring. I mean unless gratuitous violence is enough for you.
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Warren wrote: 27 May 2020, 12:55 I watched "Happy" on Jake's recommendation as well. Went ahead and finished the first season.
I don't see what you guys see. Beyond the gawdaful storytelling, like zombies just showing up and then, poof forgotten about, it's just boring. I mean unless gratuitous violence is enough for you.
It isn't for me. There has to be plenty of gratuitous sex, too.
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I've tried it a couple of times and just haven't been able to get into it. I think I see what the deal is, but it just can't hold my attention.

May give it another try at some point. Sometimes the appeal of a show, especially a dark-ish show, is highly dependent on my overall level of comfort vs anxiety at any given point in my life and at the exact moment I watch the show.
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Dangerman wrote: 18 May 2020, 13:13 "Mr. Inbetween" is quite good.
Thx for the recommendation- agreed.
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If you're looking for some creepy Twilight Zone-esque sci-fi The Vast of Night movie on Amazon is quite good. No jump scares or other cheap stunts, just a slow inexorable ratcheting up of a kind of eerie tension. The direction is quite bold. I'd even say gutsy. If you just wrote out what happens in the movie it wouldn't sound all that substantial. But the way it all unfolds is so well done it brings the material to a high level.

Helping things are the two leads. There's a great chemistry between them and they're asked to do a lot and they do it well. I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing them in other major films.

The only real criticism I have is the destination maybe doesn't quite live up to the journey. It's not that it's bad in any way, but the journey is so interesting I'm not sure you could make a climax that could really satisfyingly measure up to it.
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Mrs. America Series Review

MA ran 9 episodes Hulu dumped the first three all at once and then parceled the rest out week by week. Interesting tactic *shrug*.
The first three are decidedly better than what followed. For a show "based on actual events" it's an interesting mix. AFAICT actual documented history is faithfully recreated in the show. However, most of the show consists of behind the scenes back room strategizing and such. In other words, decidedly undocumented history, and therefore fiction. I'm old enough to remember the Women's Liberation Movement. I was only 7 in 1971 when the show starts, but I was 16 in 1980 when it ends. And I've read about it hear and there as an adult. I of course know who Betty Friedan and Gloria Steinem are. I had heard of Phyllis Schlafly, but Republican Activist was the extent of my knowledge. Likewise, I knew Shirley Chisholm was a black woman Representative, but I didn't know she ran for president.

People the show introduced me to that I knew nothing about:
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Florynce Kennedy

The writers and show runners are pretty clearly Pro ERA, and therefore Phyllis is the villain here, but they're not ham fisted about it. Phyllis is of the "family values" stripe of paleo-con. I've learned that she continued to publish her newsletter, hosted a talk radio show, and then podcast after the events of the show. She has therefore provided A Lot of radical right rhetoric for one to shake their head at. But in a couple of ways they pushed it a little too far IMHO. The first instance revolves around her son John. John Schlafly was outed as a homosexual in 1992. The show depicts Phyllis cluing into her son's sexuality and then speaking to him metaphorically about it. But then there's a scene where she is confessing her sins (the Schlafly's are Catholic) and she confesses that she can't love her son because he is a "pervert". From what I can tell, that is rubbish. John came out publicly after being outed by a gay publication, but his relationship with his mother was always close. The other thing, is that the show depicts Phyllis cozying up to the Klan. While that allegation was leveled at Phyllis (most notably by Ms. Friedan) it didn't stick.

Best thing about the show to my ears is the music. It really captures the feel of the 70's.
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Painboy wrote: 31 May 2020, 17:09 If you're looking for some creepy Twilight Zone-esque sci-fi The Vast of Night movie on Amazon is quite good. No jump scares or other cheap stunts, just a slow inexorable ratcheting up of a kind of eerie tension. The direction is quite bold. I'd even say gutsy. If you just wrote out what happens in the movie it wouldn't sound all that substantial. But the way it all unfolds is so well done it brings the material to a high level.

Helping things are the two leads. There's a great chemistry between them and they're asked to do a lot and they do it well. I wouldn't be surprised if you start seeing them in other major films.

The only real criticism I have is the destination maybe doesn't quite live up to the journey. It's not that it's bad in any way, but the journey is so interesting I'm not sure you could make a climax that could really satisfyingly measure up to it.
OK, good to know. Saw an ad for it just this weekend and thought it looked cool. Will add to watch-list.
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I know I've expressed my love of Happy already, but about halfway through season 2, it starts getting SO WEIRD, and I am just enjoying it that much more. Basically, it seems like the writers' idea right from the beginning was, basically, "jung vs gur Gryrghoovrf jrer npghnyyl rivy nyvraf jub pnzr gb Rnegu gb rng puvyqera?"
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JD wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:21 I know I've expressed my love of Happy already, but about halfway through season 2, it starts getting SO WEIRD, and I am just enjoying it that much more. Basically, it seems like the writers' idea right from the beginning was, basically, "jung vs gur Gryrghoovrf jrer npghnyyl rivy nyvraf jub pnzr gb Rnegu gb rng puvyqera?"
That's the sort of thing you get from Grant Morrison.
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JD wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:21 "jung vs gur Gryrghoovrf jrer npghnyyl rivy nyvraf jub pnzr gb Rnegu gb rng puvyqera?"
Jung vs?
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Warren wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:36
JD wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:21 "jung vs gur Gryrghoovrf jrer npghnyyl rivy nyvraf jub pnzr gb Rnegu gb rng puvyqera?"
Jung vs?
Serhq, I guess.
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JD wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:38
Warren wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:36
JD wrote: 01 Jun 2020, 13:21 "jung vs gur Gryrghoovrf jrer npghnyyl rivy nyvraf jub pnzr gb Rnegu gb rng puvyqera?"
Jung vs?
Serhq, I guess.
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