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lunchstealer wrote: 12 May 2020, 14:41 The early costumes less so.
Even if we're only talking about the male line?
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Warren wrote: 12 May 2020, 14:53
lunchstealer wrote: 12 May 2020, 14:41 The early costumes less so.
Even if we're only talking about the male line?
Of the TNG pajama uniforms? It was the dude ones that were worst, although I kind of find the okay-yeah-the-miniskirts-occasionally-but-now-on-dudes-too bit amusing. Of course I was a teenage boy when it came out so tight uniforms on the women was... except for Troi who was so annoying that my male gaze couldn't take hold even with that low cut. Especially not with Denise Crosby on screen. Or Gates McFadden, for that matter. I've probably expressed this here before but the single best moment in the TNG run was when Jellico told Troi to wear a damned uniform. Those uniforms were a lot better, too.
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I was talking about TOS.
I mean if were talking about the "early" costumes then we're not talking about TNG. It's right there in the name :P
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Warren wrote: 12 May 2020, 15:48 I was talking about TOS.
Ah okay. I had no real problem with the TOS uniforms, and meant the first two-or-three season TNG pajama uniforms, which didn't even hold up at the time, compared to the displays and interfaces which have held up fairly well, except for their tendency to explode.
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TOS uniforms with TNG sets would be The Market.
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Warren wrote: 12 May 2020, 14:16 if you can accept the low cut tops and miniskirts.
I can always accept those.
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Andrew wrote: 12 May 2020, 16:41
Warren wrote: 12 May 2020, 14:16 if you can accept the low cut tops and miniskirts.
I can always accept those.
Wouldn't your clients look at you funny though?
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So mrs lunch is all coked up about the new Snowpiercer series on whateverbasiccable, mostly because of some Hamilton guy in the cast, but man I cannot get past the deep stupidity of the premise. WTF is the point of surviving snowball earth in a train? They all deserve to die for signing on for the rubiest of goldbergs. "But it's so COOOL" no it fucking isn't it's dumb and also fuck your deeply stupid 'skewering' of some weird scarecrow vaguely shaped like the ghost of Ayn-Rand as if that's some deep fucking insight or even slightly edgy.
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I can get behind the "perpetual motion train that holds everybody on earth" thing if it's a magical-realism metaphor-type thing. Unfortunately the writers of both the original movie and the new series seem to want it to be hard SF.
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lunchstealer wrote: 13 May 2020, 16:48 So mrs lunch is all coked up about the new Snowpiercer series on whateverbasiccable, mostly because of some Hamilton guy in the cast, but man I cannot get past the deep stupidity of the premise. WTF is the point of surviving snowball earth in a train? They all deserve to die for signing on for the rubiest of goldbergs. "But it's so COOOL" no it fucking isn't it's dumb and also fuck your deeply stupid 'skewering' of some weird scarecrow vaguely shaped like the ghost of Ayn-Rand as if that's some deep fucking insight or even slightly edgy.
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Snowpiercer is the sort of movie you sometimes end up watching twice because after time passes you start doubting you could have hated it quite so much the first time.

That it would even be considered let alone developed as a television series further proves the utter dearth of imagination and creativity, the desperate, incessant need for new material regardless of quality and, in all likelihood, the intellectual property rights being held by someone with enough juice in Hollywood to force it on distributors as part of a package.
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I have never felt the desire to watch the movie, and I'll watch pretty much any sci-fi or post-apoc dreck out there.
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lunchstealer wrote: 13 May 2020, 16:48 So mrs lunch is all coked up about the new Snowpiercer series on whateverbasiccable, mostly because of some Hamilton guy in the cast, but man I cannot get past the deep stupidity of the premise. WTF is the point of surviving snowball earth in a train? They all deserve to die for signing on for the rubiest of goldbergs. "But it's so COOOL" no it fucking isn't it's dumb and also fuck your deeply stupid 'skewering' of some weird scarecrow vaguely shaped like the ghost of Ayn-Rand as if that's some deep fucking insight or even slightly edgy.
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dbcooper wrote: 14 May 2020, 23:49
lunchstealer wrote: 13 May 2020, 16:48 So mrs lunch is all coked up about the new Snowpiercer series on whateverbasiccable, mostly because of some Hamilton guy in the cast, but man I cannot get past the deep stupidity of the premise. WTF is the point of surviving snowball earth in a train? They all deserve to die for signing on for the rubiest of goldbergs. "But it's so COOOL" no it fucking isn't it's dumb and also fuck your deeply stupid 'skewering' of some weird scarecrow vaguely shaped like the ghost of Ayn-Rand as if that's some deep fucking insight or even slightly edgy.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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You have no idea the power of the Hamilton with the mom-jeans set.
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lunchstealer wrote: 15 May 2020, 14:50
dbcooper wrote: 14 May 2020, 23:49
lunchstealer wrote: 13 May 2020, 16:48 So mrs lunch is all coked up about the new Snowpiercer series on whateverbasiccable, mostly because of some Hamilton guy in the cast, but man I cannot get past the deep stupidity of the premise. WTF is the point of surviving snowball earth in a train? They all deserve to die for signing on for the rubiest of goldbergs. "But it's so COOOL" no it fucking isn't it's dumb and also fuck your deeply stupid 'skewering' of some weird scarecrow vaguely shaped like the ghost of Ayn-Rand as if that's some deep fucking insight or even slightly edgy.
:lol: :lol: :lol:

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You have no idea the power of the Hamilton with the mom-jeans set.
I do. And it really upsets me. Because Hamilton was in the pantheon of History's greatest monsters and it rankles, deeply, to see him venerated as a Founding Father. Burr had the right idea.
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Warren wrote: 15 May 2020, 15:04 I do. And it really upsets me. Because Hamilton was in the pantheon of History's greatest monsters and it rankles, deeply, to see him venerated as a Founding Father. Burr had the right idea.
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Contrary opinion:
There is a debate in some circles regarding who among America’s founders was the most consistent advocate for free markets and economic liberty. Today most Americans would incorrectly identify Thomas Jefferson. However, it was Jefferson’s rival, Alexander Hamilton, that did more than any other founder to give the United States a free market economy.
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Hip hop is the most libertarian of musical genres, celebrating drugs, guns, pimping, profits, and gold. It therefore follows that Hamilton is the most libertarian of the Founders.
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Yesterday, on Netflix, nearly by accident, I watched an episode of "Happy". Then I watched the rest of the first season. And now I'm on episode 3 of 8 of Season Two.

"Happy" is about an alcoholic scumbag ex-cop who now works as a hitman. A little girl is kidnapped. Her imaginary friend, Happy, goes for help and finds the hit man... who can, much to his dismay, see and hear the imaginary friend. Grotesquely violent hilarity ensues.

My best description of the tone is this: Joss Whedon and Quentin Tarantino have a baby, and that baby invents Pixar. I didn't think I'd like it, but I really, really like it.

(I'm not kidding about the grotesque violence, though. Lots of blood fountains and impalements and shattered limbs and semi-identifiable internal organs flying about the show. And a bucktoothed flying unicorn.)
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Confession: I read that description and was like, "Oh, sounds very interesting, graphic violence, no problem, blood fountains, whatever ... hmm, not sure I can handle a show with a kidnapped kid, though. Scared children are too intense a story element for me."

But I will mention this to David, he was just watching the Netflix trailer earlier tonight and musing over whether he might like it!
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Been watching Bosch. I like it a lot - it's kind of a modern noir: set in LA, grizzled detective with messed-up personal life, twisted threads, etc. If the show suffers from one problem, it's that they try to juggle too many balls for a one-hour show, so you get a fair number of scenes where two secondary characters talk about some names you vaguely remember hearing three episodes ago.
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JD wrote: 18 May 2020, 08:39 Been watching Bosch. I like it a lot - it's kind of a modern noir: set in LA, grizzled detective with messed-up personal life, twisted threads, etc. If the show suffers from one problem, it's that they try to juggle too many balls for a one-hour show, so you get a fair number of scenes where two secondary characters talk about some names you vaguely remember hearing three episodes ago.


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JD wrote: 18 May 2020, 08:39 Been watching Bosch. I like it a lot - it's kind of a modern noir: set in LA, grizzled detective with messed-up personal life, twisted threads, etc. If the show suffers from one problem, it's that they try to juggle too many balls for a one-hour show, so you get a fair number of scenes where two secondary characters talk about some names you vaguely remember hearing three episodes ago.
That's a fair gripe, though I suppose it could be said about every ensemble show, too. I like the show, but I'm simultaneously annoyed by the tropes that also make it fun. He's a jazz fan, playing vinyl on a stereo that probably cost half or more of an average cop's salary. Okay, so he made money from a movie story sold to Hollywood about an earlier case, thus allowing him to buy the multi-million dollar view of L.A. Too many of the characters have preposterous names or nicknames (though I do get a kick out of Crate and Barrel) and, worst trope of all, he's the righteous but brooding cop above all the corruption of the system. Oh, also, as the series progresses, I think his daughter, whose role expands, gets more and more annoying. But I still do like the show.

Vaguely related, I've been rewatching Deadwood with my son over the last several weeks and we've reached the point where Titus Welliver becomes a series regular.
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"Mr. Inbetween" is quite good.
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If you're a fan of the caper and con game genre, Amazon Prime is now streaming "Hustle," a very clever Brit series that ran for eight seasons and which I'm amazed wasn't Americanized by someone in Hollywood.

I've got some serious bingeing to look forward to.
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