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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 06 Jul 2019, 22:05

Obviously I just bitched about the first two episodes of Season 1 and then ended up loving it, but I'm on the second episode of True Detective Season 2 and I hate everyone and don't care at all about the story.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Warren » 06 Jul 2019, 22:40

Ellie wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 22:05
Obviously I just bitched about the first two episodes of Season 1 and then ended up loving it, but I'm on the second episode of True Detective Season 2 and I hate everyone and don't care at all about the story.
Why did you start Season 2, weren't you forewarned?
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 06 Jul 2019, 23:08

No, I weirdly knew nothing about the show going in besides a vague sense it had gotten a lot of buzz when it first came out. I'm not sure how I missed any details; I don't consciously avoid spoilers on HBO shows, since before this month I've never had access to them and assumed I never would. I wouldn't have ever watched Season 1 if I'd known the mystery was all about raped and murdered children. (But by the time I realized how upsetting it was, I was invested enough that I had to watch to see the bad guy get it.)

What should I have been forewarned about Season 2?
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Post by Kolohe » 06 Jul 2019, 23:16

The buzz I heard is that is sucked donkey balls, and so I never got around to watching it.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 06 Jul 2019, 23:19

I'm way more annoyed than I should be that they're talking to a sex worker about a man who hired her specifically because he had a fetish for young escorts, and she looks about 45 years old.

I'm even more annoyed by this than Colin Ferrell's inexplicable hair.
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Post by Ellie » 06 Jul 2019, 23:40

He's a cop sneaking around a crime scene and he's touching everything WITH HIS BARE HANDS
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 06 Jul 2019, 23:50

Just move on to Season 3, which is no Season 1 but at least it's worth watching.

Meanwhile, I suspect it's been mentioned by others here before, but I'm burning through Billions, already into Season 4.

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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 07 Jul 2019, 00:02

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 23:50
Just move on to Season 3, which is no Season 1 but at least it's worth watching.
Ugh, I really should. I'm kind of invested in hate watching it at the moment. I just have to let that run its course and eventually I will get too fed up and move on.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 07 Jul 2019, 00:23

Last complaint (hopefully) of the night. The editing is just terrible. First episode there is a scene where A is telling B that C has gone missing, and then a few minutes later, a scene where A is clearly just finding out that C has gone missing. Well, these things happen in TV shows, so I let it go and don't expect any more shenanigans. Second episode jumped around so much I can't even pinpoint a complaint. Third episode, we have a helicopter/drone shot of LA highways, then cut to cops talking at the crime scene* for NINE SECONDS, and cut to a NEARLY IDENTICAL shot of LA highways, then cut to the same cops riding in a car together now. What is happening? This is bananas.

* the one with Colin Ferrell's mustache-greased fingerprints all over it
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Warren » 07 Jul 2019, 01:02

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 23:50
Just move on to Season 3, which is no Season 1 but at least it's worth watching.

Meanwhile, I suspect it's been mentioned by others here before, but I'm burning through Billions, already into Season 4.
I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Is it good?
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 07 Jul 2019, 03:01

Warren wrote:
07 Jul 2019, 01:02
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 23:50
Just move on to Season 3, which is no Season 1 but at least it's worth watching.

Meanwhile, I suspect it's been mentioned by others here before, but I'm burning through Billions, already into Season 4.
I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Is it good?
Yes. It's not brilliant, but as a back and forth, cat and mouse drama pitting a hedge fund owner against a U.S. Attorney, it works well. It has weaknesses, implausiblities, etc., but overall it's been very entertaining.

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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Jasper » 08 Jul 2019, 12:37

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
07 Jul 2019, 03:01
Warren wrote:
07 Jul 2019, 01:02
D.A. Ridgely wrote:
06 Jul 2019, 23:50
Just move on to Season 3, which is no Season 1 but at least it's worth watching.

Meanwhile, I suspect it's been mentioned by others here before, but I'm burning through Billions, already into Season 4.
I don't recall anyone mentioning it. Is it good?
Yes. It's not brilliant, but as a back and forth, cat and mouse drama pitting a hedge fund owner against a U.S. Attorney, it works well. It has weaknesses, implausiblities, etc., but overall it's been very entertaining.
I was curious about that one since I like Damian Lewis.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 08 Jul 2019, 12:48

TDS2: the real mystery of this season is how many scenes they can cram in with Vince Vaughn trying to make mob deals with old contacts. We are up past 600 at least, I am sure
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 00:14

Oh my, now he is making a mob deal with NEW contacts

I can't survive this plot whiplash
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 00:18

This whole "cop sneaks in with a bunch of high-class escorts" device is so contrived. Why not just have her put on a fake mustache and coveralls, and pretend to be a plumber?
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 00:28

Oh, and I guess she's a rape survivor. Because there is no other reason for women to feel angry, be driven, or have complicated pasts.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 00:41

Speaking of backstories, did they have to give the motorcycle cop a weird Jocasta mother AND gay self-loathing? Oh, and some kind of war veteran mercenary massacre secret? That's way too much to load on one guy (who somehow ends up still being incredibly bland).
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JasonL » 09 Jul 2019, 03:20

Ellie - it’s really bad pls stop watching go to S3

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Post by Mo » 09 Jul 2019, 04:43

Keep going, I want you to suffer like I did.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 23:50

I have literally thousands of words written in my head analyzing exactly how and why Season 2 sucks so hard. But I will spare you all :mrgreen:

One thing that does keep jumping out at me is how graphic and gratuitous the violence is this season. Remember in Season 1 when Marty beat up the two young men in jail, then went out and threw up in the parking lot? That felt true, and compelling. This season we've already had teeth pulled out, hand stabbed into a table, machine gun shootout with blood flying everywhere, a guy getting shot and left to gasp and bleed out in an office, and who knows what all else I skipped because I really really hate torture scenes. It just feels so typical, and trite.

Oh, and can I complain that they're willing to have characters say "cunt" and "cooze" but not "abortion"? Come on, HBO.

At any rate, I've slogged through enough of it that I will hate-watch to the bitter, bitter end. Ugh.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by D.A. Ridgely » 09 Jul 2019, 23:52

Ellie wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 23:50
I have literally thousands of words written in my head analyzing exactly how and why Season 2 sucks so hard. But I will spare you all :mrgreen:

One thing that does keep jumping out at me is how graphic and gratuitous the violence is this season. Remember in Season 1 when Marty beat up the two young men in jail, then went out and threw up in the parking lot? That felt true, and compelling. This season we've already had teeth pulled out, hand stabbed into a table, machine gun shootout with blood flying everywhere, a guy getting shot and left to gasp and bleed out in an office, and who knows what all else I skipped because I really really hate torture scenes. It just feels so typical, and trite.

Oh, and can I complain that they're willing to have characters say "cunt" and "cooze" but not "abortion"? Come on, HBO.

At any rate, I've slogged through enough of it that I will hate-watch to the bitter, bitter end. Ugh.
Don't worry. Season Three tells the thrilling, convoluted story of what the hell happened to True Detective in Season Two.

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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Jul 2019, 23:53

One last thing. Cop chick (I can't even remember her name) has hair that's half brown and half blonde -- like she's growing out a dye job, I guess. But can you really imagine that character dyeing her hair blonde? It is NOT BELIEVABLE AT ALL.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 10 Jul 2019, 01:11

Ellie wrote:
09 Jul 2019, 23:50
At any rate, I've slogged through enough of it that I will hate-watch to the bitter, bitter end. Ugh.
Nope! I can't do it. I'm halfway through the last episode and it's just Vince Vaughn giving emotional speech after emotional speech in his gurgling "mobster with a heart of gold" close-talker voice. The finish line is in sight but I'm tapping out, to mix a couple metaphors.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 11 Jul 2019, 15:25

From Vulture's "5 Possible Endings to Redeem True Detective [Season 2]"
maybe a scene of Ray many years from now, happily — peacefully — eating hot dogs with a now-hunky, all-grown-up redhead, gazing at the younger man and thinking, Lo, truly, he is my son, or something? Gena and her second husband are there, too, because everyone gets along now. Bezzerides thinks she loves being a cop, but maybe we see her much more blissed-out 20 years from now, running a martial-arts school that teaches self-defense to sex workers. Paul’s ghost is riding a motorcycle with his boyfriend in heaven, where he has atoned for being a war criminal. Frank … eh, Frank dies.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JasonL » 11 Jul 2019, 15:46

That season reminded me just how much I hate Vince Vaughn.

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