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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JD » 06 Nov 2018, 11:28

The new season of Ray Donovan is better than I'd expected.

Random observations:
Christ, but Bunchy is just dumb as crap. Well-meaning, but dumb as crap.

The staged "mutual homicide" scene would not pass the most casual of forensic investigations, unless you want to believe that Samoa shot Wall Street to death, then 12 hours later Wall Street came back to life and shot Samoa in the back of the head, while Samoa was walking around the apartment holding a gun for no particular reason, then Wall Street went back to where he'd originally been shot, lay down, and died for good. I can only assume that Ray figures that nobody is going to look into it too closely.

Speaking of people who are dumb as crap, that mayoral candidate is really just too dumb to be mayor. True justice would probably be Ray saying, "You know what, you're on your own with this now."
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 07 Nov 2018, 18:11

After all my swearing I'd never watch Tom Clancy's Jim Halpert on Amazon, I finally threw it on a couple days ago for some half-watching/background noise while I do other things. It's ... fine. Some of it stretches my suspension of disbelief pretty hard (they really don't have anyone else to send along on all this shit besides Jack Ryan? How did depressed drone dude even get into Syria, can you just take a plane there?) but I also haven't been paying close attention, nor am I its target audience, so who knows. I have to give John Krasinski credit for pulling off the role much better than I thought he could.

James Greer is the real hero of the whole series, obvs.
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Post by Ellie » 07 Nov 2018, 19:05

Also, I confess that every time somebody says "Aleppo" I think of that Libertarian Dad Jokes video and smirk.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 08 Nov 2018, 15:37

Hmm. Ending was fine. Not great. Greer is still totally the hero.

Now I'm trying Secret City on a friend's recommendation but I'm having a heck of a time keeping all the male characters straight. They're all pulled from the Glum Potato stable of actors.
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Post by Warren » 08 Nov 2018, 19:31

Off Ellie's joy of hate, I watched Tiny House Big Living, the Expressive Tiny Art House episode.
Worth the price of admission. The Mother summed it up well "I am inconsolably proud".
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Post by Ellie » 09 Nov 2018, 12:34

Warren wrote:
08 Nov 2018, 19:31
Off Ellie's joy of hate, I watched Tiny House Big Living, the Expressive Tiny Art House episode.
Worth the price of admission. The Mother summed it up well "I am inconsolably proud".
I'm so very glad I could share that ridiculousness with you <3
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Post by Ellie » 09 Nov 2018, 12:41

First few episodes of Bodyguard are pretty good. The titular character is definitely not who I thought he'd be after the opening scene on the train.

Episode 3 has naked man ass, of which I heartily approve :mrgreen:
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Ellie » 09 Nov 2018, 19:10

Ellie wrote:
08 Nov 2018, 15:37
Now I'm trying Secret City on a friend's recommendation but I'm having a heck of a time keeping all the male characters straight. They're all pulled from the Glum Potato stable of actors.
FUCK SECRET CITY. They had a trans woman character and I was super excited (even though she was played by a cis male actor) because she seemed like she was just going to be part of the story like any other character. And then not only do they fucking kill her off two episodes in, but they misgender her and deadname her through her whole funeral and nobody says boo about it. :evil:
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Jasper » 28 Nov 2018, 13:07

So, in keeping with my habit of discovering popular culture a decade after it goes by...

Parks & Rec is pretty good.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Hugh Akston » 28 Nov 2018, 17:29

Jasper wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 13:07
So, in keeping with my habit of discovering popular culture a decade after it goes by...

Parks & Rec is pretty good.
I gave up after 5 1/2 episodes. Watching Fraiser now, which is buh-rilliant.
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Post by Ellie » 28 Nov 2018, 17:52

Hugh Akston wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 17:29
Jasper wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 13:07
So, in keeping with my habit of discovering popular culture a decade after it goes by...

Parks & Rec is pretty good.
I gave up after 5 1/2 episodes. Watching Fraiser now, which is buh-rilliant.
Season 1 or 2? Season 1 is not great, but Season 2 is when they figure out what they're doing. (Edited to add: Parks and Rec, I mean. Frasier had it figured out from the start. That show holds up really well.)
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Post by Hugh Akston » 28 Nov 2018, 18:08

Ellie wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 17:52
Hugh Akston wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 17:29
Jasper wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 13:07
So, in keeping with my habit of discovering popular culture a decade after it goes by...

Parks & Rec is pretty good.
I gave up after 5 1/2 episodes. Watching Fraiser now, which is buh-rilliant.
Season 1 or 2? Season 1 is not great, but Season 2 is when they figure out what they're doing. (Edited to add: Parks and Rec, I mean. Frasier had it figured out from the start. That show holds up really well.)
Parks & Rec. I've had several people tell me to push through it, but cringe comedy and mockumentary are not my cups of tea.
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Post by Ellie » 28 Nov 2018, 18:15

All of season 1 is completely skippable, from what I remember. Just jump right to "The Fight" (S3E13) and if that grabs you then go back to S2E1. If that episode is not your cup of tea you probably won't like the series.
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Post by Painboy » 28 Nov 2018, 20:38

Enjoying the new season of The Last Kingdom. They do a good job at moving around a lot of characters and keeping things interesting.

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Post by Jasper » 29 Nov 2018, 11:11

Ellie wrote:
28 Nov 2018, 18:15
All of season 1 is completely skippable, from what I remember. Just jump right to "The Fight" (S3E13) and if that grabs you then go back to S2E1. If that episode is not your cup of tea you probably won't like the series.
Yeah, cosign this. Season 1 was essentially The Office in a government setting, and I never cared for that show either. Season 2 forward the characters are less awkward and become likable over time.
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Post by Ellie » 29 Nov 2018, 11:13

Also, anyone who did like Parks and Rec should definitely also watch Brooklyn Nine-Nine.
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Post by Andrew » 29 Nov 2018, 11:34

I watched seasons 2-4 of Parks and Rec and mostly enjoyed it. Well, I enjoyed Ron Swanson and Jean-Ralphio. Other characters were tolerable.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JasonL » 29 Nov 2018, 11:55

I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.

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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by Warren » 29 Nov 2018, 12:23

JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 11:55
I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.
Same, but change the channel.
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Post by lunchstealer » 29 Nov 2018, 15:08

JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 11:55
I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.
Is that re: Frasier or P&R?
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Post by Jasper » 29 Nov 2018, 15:12

JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 11:55
I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.
Same, hence my dislike of The Office.

Parks and Rec moved away from cringe to awkward, which I think is different. The Michael character in The Office didn't know he was a weird jerk. Leslie Knopes does know she's a little too intense for her cow-orkers, and can be self-effacing with it, so it works.

Only after season 2 though.

And I did enjoy Brooklyn Nine Nine too.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JasonL » 29 Nov 2018, 16:55

lunchstealer wrote:
JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 11:55
I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.
Is that re: Frasier or P&R?
The prototype is like Arrested Development or the office. P&R has that. Frasier I don’t recall very well

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Post by Ellie » 29 Nov 2018, 17:24

Parks and Rec ditches the cringe humor after the first season.
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Re: It's not the size of the screen...

Post by JasonL » 29 Nov 2018, 17:33

Ahh. That’s good to know. I like the cast.

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Post by lunchstealer » 29 Nov 2018, 18:26

JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 16:55
lunchstealer wrote:
JasonL wrote:
29 Nov 2018, 11:55
I usually find cringe comedy so uncomfortable I have to leave the room.
Is that re: Frasier or P&R?
The prototype is like Arrested Development or the office. P&R has that. Frasier I don’t recall very well
Frasier and/or Niles get involved in social mishap and are too proud/uptight to rectify the situation with anything other than more extreme attempts to hide their minor faux pas with greater and greater transgressions. 90% of Frasier episodes were excruciating to watch for this reason.

I never felt like the best humor of Arrested Development was based on cringing. The cringe was there, but the best bits were based on wordplay, subversion of expectations, metahumor, or visual humor, and especially combinations thereof (Henry Winkler's character walking past some fishermen and jumping over a small shark left on the pier, or the omnipresent smudges of blue handprints all over the model home).
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