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Re: What are you reading?

Post by nicole » 15 May 2017, 09:53

lunchstealer wrote:
Andrew wrote:Thoughts on Lolita:

1. I didn't realize it would be so hilarious.
2. The writing and wordplay is mindbending. Especially given English was his second or third language.
3. American Psycho is an extremely inferior copy.
Did he write in English? I assumed it was translated.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by nicole » 15 May 2017, 09:54

Andrew wrote:Thoughts on Lolita:

1. I didn't realize it would be so hilarious.
2. The writing and wordplay is mindbending. Especially given English was his second or third language.
3. American Psycho is an extremely inferior copy.
Was that your first Nabokov? (It's all like that.)
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Andrew » 15 May 2017, 11:49

nicole wrote:
Andrew wrote:Thoughts on Lolita:

1. I didn't realize it would be so hilarious.
2. The writing and wordplay is mindbending. Especially given English was his second or third language.
3. American Psycho is an extremely inferior copy.
Was that your first Nabokov? (It's all like that.)
I read Pale Fire a while ago, but I need to read it again.

Now I'm trying Master and Margarita (Mirra Ginsburg trans.).
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by JD » 26 May 2017, 10:51

I just finished Clan of the Cave Bear. It is not terribly well-written - kind of amateurish, in fact - but for all that the story keeps cracking along well enough to keep you reading.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dhex » 26 May 2017, 14:07

i picked up a first hardback american printing of invitation to a beheading when i was in dc. (for 17 bucks - lantern books is a neat place)

good stuff, but feels a bit stiff in parts.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by lunchstealer » 26 May 2017, 17:57

JD wrote:I just finished Clan of the Cave Bear. It is not terribly well-written - kind of amateurish, in fact - but for all that the story keeps cracking along well enough to keep you reading.
I used that as a 'historical novel' for an assignment in high school. The sequels get more and more porny. Less rapey though.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Painboy » 25 Jun 2017, 21:34

What is LitRPG and why does it exist?

I saw some of this coming in the previous few years. It's been all over anime recently. I thought it was mostly something they were doing. Apparently it's showing up all over though.
No, Survival Quest is about what MMOs are actually about: grinding experience and gear. It's a novel about the pleasure of leveling up.

Literally. The protagonist (egotistical and flavorless, as I assumed), is imprisoned in a full immersion VR capsule to serve out his prison sentence in an MMO copper mine. He feels pain fully from every rat bite, and the exhaustion of chipping away at mining nodes all day, but he also feels an addictive euphoria when he levels up his character's jewel-crafting skill.
Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:

Damage taken. Hit Points reduced by 5: 11 (weapon damage + strength) - 6 (armor). Total: 35 of 40.
And this:

Buff gained: Strength +1, Energy loss reduced by 50%. Duration - 12 hours.
It's probably best to brace yourself as I have a strong feeling this going to show up in television and movies in a short while.

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Re: What are you reading?

Post by JasonL » 25 Jun 2017, 23:43

I feel like it started way back with dragon ball z

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Re: What are you reading?

Post by lunchstealer » 26 Jun 2017, 03:24

Painboy wrote:What is LitRPG and why does it exist?

I saw some of this coming in the previous few years. It's been all over anime recently. I thought it was mostly something they were doing. Apparently it's showing up all over though.
No, Survival Quest is about what MMOs are actually about: grinding experience and gear. It's a novel about the pleasure of leveling up.

Literally. The protagonist (egotistical and flavorless, as I assumed), is imprisoned in a full immersion VR capsule to serve out his prison sentence in an MMO copper mine. He feels pain fully from every rat bite, and the exhaustion of chipping away at mining nodes all day, but he also feels an addictive euphoria when he levels up his character's jewel-crafting skill.
Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:

Damage taken. Hit Points reduced by 5: 11 (weapon damage + strength) - 6 (armor). Total: 35 of 40.
And this:

Buff gained: Strength +1, Energy loss reduced by 50%. Duration - 12 hours.
It's probably best to brace yourself as I have a strong feeling this going to show up in television and movies in a short while.
This is the one and only time it was ever OK.



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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Painboy » 26 Jun 2017, 20:51

lunchstealer wrote:
Painboy wrote:What is LitRPG and why does it exist?

I saw some of this coming in the previous few years. It's been all over anime recently. I thought it was mostly something they were doing. Apparently it's showing up all over though.
No, Survival Quest is about what MMOs are actually about: grinding experience and gear. It's a novel about the pleasure of leveling up.

Literally. The protagonist (egotistical and flavorless, as I assumed), is imprisoned in a full immersion VR capsule to serve out his prison sentence in an MMO copper mine. He feels pain fully from every rat bite, and the exhaustion of chipping away at mining nodes all day, but he also feels an addictive euphoria when he levels up his character's jewel-crafting skill.
Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:

Damage taken. Hit Points reduced by 5: 11 (weapon damage + strength) - 6 (armor). Total: 35 of 40.
And this:

Buff gained: Strength +1, Energy loss reduced by 50%. Duration - 12 hours.
It's probably best to brace yourself as I have a strong feeling this going to show up in television and movies in a short while.
This is the one and only time it was ever OK.



Agreed, but that was satire. Some of the stuff I've seen in anime, for instance, plays it completely straight. It's kind of bizarre.

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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 26 Jun 2017, 21:42

Painboy wrote:
lunchstealer wrote:
Painboy wrote:What is LitRPG and why does it exist?

I saw some of this coming in the previous few years. It's been all over anime recently. I thought it was mostly something they were doing. Apparently it's showing up all over though.
No, Survival Quest is about what MMOs are actually about: grinding experience and gear. It's a novel about the pleasure of leveling up.

Literally. The protagonist (egotistical and flavorless, as I assumed), is imprisoned in a full immersion VR capsule to serve out his prison sentence in an MMO copper mine. He feels pain fully from every rat bite, and the exhaustion of chipping away at mining nodes all day, but he also feels an addictive euphoria when he levels up his character's jewel-crafting skill.
Survival Quest is a terrible novel. Unlikable characters, casual sexism, and a plot completely bent to the main character's progression — far beyond the usual flex I allow in any Frodo-inspired fantasy novel. But it also includes stuff like this:

Damage taken. Hit Points reduced by 5: 11 (weapon damage + strength) - 6 (armor). Total: 35 of 40.
And this:

Buff gained: Strength +1, Energy loss reduced by 50%. Duration - 12 hours.
It's probably best to brace yourself as I have a strong feeling this going to show up in television and movies in a short while.
This is the one and only time it was ever OK.



Agreed, but that was satire. Some of the stuff I've seen in anime, for instance, plays it completely straight. It's kind of bizarre.
Isn't that what Ready Player One is about?
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dbcooper » 03 Jul 2017, 06:09

Am reading and enjoying Dave Weigel's book on prog rock.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dhex » 14 Jul 2017, 15:07

Kill all normies is really good so far. It will make all sorts of people angry.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 14 Jul 2017, 15:29

The Lost City of Z is really good. I am surprised that Werner Herzog wasn't the one who got to make the movie.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Sandy » 14 Jul 2017, 17:56

dhex wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 15:07
Kill all normies is really good so far. It will make all sorts of people angry.
Agreed. I'm only three chapters in, but it's the most balanced take I've yet seen. It captures without cartoonishly demonizing (I mean, any more cartoonish than they are) the various factions.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dbcooper » 14 Jul 2017, 18:02

dhex wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 15:07
Kill all normies is really good so far. It will make all sorts of people angry.
Yep, I enjoyed it, and it did make a lot of dipshits angry.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dhex » 15 Jul 2017, 13:44

Had I gone into the academy for digital ethnography I would have only hoped to write a book this good. (my MA thesis was on 4chan and a btard cporn takedown of another board)
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dbcooper » 16 Jul 2017, 06:42

dhex wrote:
15 Jul 2017, 13:44
Had I gone into the academy for digital ethnography I would have only hoped to write a book this good. (my MA thesis was on 4chan and a btard cporn takedown of another board)
I was disappointed that Nagle didn't mention Houellebecq though. Whatever (Extension du domaine de la lutte) really is the urtext of much of the alt-right.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dhex » 16 Jul 2017, 11:04

That's the nihilist programmer incel book right?
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by tr0g » 16 Jul 2017, 17:37

I'm almost finished with Days of Rage, which is an interesting history of lefties blowing shit up in the 70s.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dbcooper » 16 Jul 2017, 17:54

dhex wrote:
16 Jul 2017, 11:04
That's the nihilist programmer incel book right?
Yeah.
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by dhex » 20 Jul 2017, 17:18

Finally got around to reading bad feminist. It's mostly good.
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What are you reading?

Post by JasonL » 20 Jul 2017, 17:21

Sandy wrote:
dhex wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 15:07
Kill all normies is really good so far. It will make all sorts of people angry.
Agreed. I'm only three chapters in, but it's the most balanced take I've yet seen. It captures without cartoonishly demonizing (I mean, any more cartoonish than they are) the various factions.
Reading this. Three chapters in I like the takes but the structure is garbage. It reads like paragraph sized hot takes instead of points supporting a thesis.

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Re: What are you reading?

Post by nicole » 20 Jul 2017, 18:42

I'm probably not going to read it but I thought this review was excellent http://quillette.com/2017/07/19/kill-no ... ht-review/
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Re: What are you reading?

Post by Jennifer » 20 Jul 2017, 21:43

I've been on a Star Trek TOS/TNG novelization kick lately (when I lived in Connecticut, there was a secondhand bookshop which sold them super-cheaply; I boxed 'em all together when we moved to Virginia and never unpacked them, until a couple weeks ago). Of course, those books written before TNG ended (or in some cases, began) completely contradict certain aspects of the TNG series--though in many instances, I think the book versions work better than the series.

The other day I read Vendetta by Peter David -- a Borg story he wrote and published after the episode with "Locutus," but before "Hugh," the lifelong-Borg POW who was able to develop individuality after only a couple days with the Enterprise crew. The Borg POW in Vendetta was arguably more "realistic" (and far more horrifying): that Borg was originally an adult human who was spunky and individualistic even by human standards, but after a decade of Borg-dom was never able to return to individuality despite the best efforts of the Enterprise personnel.
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