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Re: Words I Happen to Dislike

Post by Number 6 » 24 Jan 2019, 21:12

I also hate the word. But Warren has a point. It is accurate and descriptive.
But I hateses it.
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Post by Warren » 23 Feb 2019, 13:04

When people use jail when what they mean is prison.
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Re: Words I Happen to Dislike

Post by Eric the .5b » 23 Feb 2019, 17:43

Warren wrote:
23 Feb 2019, 13:04
When people use jail when what they mean is prison.
It's pedantic, I suppose, but I have the same annoyance.
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Post by nicole » 24 Feb 2019, 07:53

I don’t think it’s that pedantic considering how harmful people’s sloppy thinking about pretrial detention is.
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Post by Warren » 24 Feb 2019, 09:10

nicole wrote:
24 Feb 2019, 07:53
I don’t think it’s that pedantic considering how harmful people’s sloppy thinking about pretrial detention is.
Or simply the entire judicial system from top to bottom.
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Post by Warren » 03 May 2019, 20:08

I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
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Re: Words I Happen to Dislike

Post by Andrew » 03 May 2019, 20:45

Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
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Re: Words I Happen to Dislike

Post by Hugh Akston » 03 May 2019, 21:59

Andrew wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:45
Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
You mean the people self-describing as such or the people using it as a pejorative?
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Post by Aresen » 03 May 2019, 23:45

Hugh Akston wrote:
03 May 2019, 21:59
Andrew wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:45
Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
You mean the people self-describing as such or the people using it as a pejorative?
Yes
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Post by Ellie » 04 May 2019, 00:27

Incel means "involuntary celibate," right? I keep thinking it's "intentionally celibate."
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Post by lunchstealer » 04 May 2019, 05:09

Ellie wrote:Incel means "involuntary celibate," right? I keep thinking it's "intentionally celibate."
They think it means involuntarily celibate when they’re really intentionally celibate.
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Post by Andrew » 04 May 2019, 08:32

Hugh Akston wrote:
03 May 2019, 21:59
Andrew wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:45
Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
You mean the people self-describing as such or the people using it as a pejorative?
The latter.
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Post by JasonL » 04 May 2019, 09:02

Aren’t the people self describing also using it as a pejorative?

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Post by nicole » 04 May 2019, 09:10

Ellie wrote:
04 May 2019, 00:27
Incel means "involuntary celibate," right? I keep thinking it's "intentionally celibate."
Correct. There’s also “volcel,” voluntarily celibate.
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Post by Mo » 04 May 2019, 09:16

Andrew wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:
03 May 2019, 21:59
Andrew wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:45
Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
You mean the people self-describing as such or the people using it as a pejorative?
The latter.
Isn’t part of that because of how the community evolved. Like if it was still in the vein of the original incel groups, I doubt it would be as pejorative. It’s like MRAs. If they were actually focused on the legit concerns (like visitation rights and the like), it wouldn’t be pejorative. But they have voluntarily taken on waaaay more than the core part of the identity.
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Post by Aresen » 04 May 2019, 09:52

nicole wrote:
04 May 2019, 09:10
Ellie wrote:
04 May 2019, 00:27
Incel means "involuntary celibate," right? I keep thinking it's "intentionally celibate."
Correct. There’s also “volcel,” voluntarily celibate.
That sounds like a Star Wars monster.
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Post by Warren » 04 May 2019, 10:26

Mo wrote:
04 May 2019, 09:16
Andrew wrote:
Hugh Akston wrote:
03 May 2019, 21:59
Andrew wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:45
Warren wrote:
03 May 2019, 20:08
I don't mind the word incel being coined, but I hate the way it's used.
I like how much it reveals about the people using it.
You mean the people self-describing as such or the people using it as a pejorative?
The latter.
Isn’t part of that because of how the community evolved. Like if it was still in the vein of the original incel groups, I doubt it would be as pejorative. It’s like MRAs. If they were actually focused on the legit concerns (like visitation rights and the like), it wouldn’t be pejorative. But they have voluntarily taken on waaaay more than the core part of the identity.
Sounds like every group ever.
I wasn't actually aware of people self describing themselves with the word. I've only see/heard it thrown around as a pejorative, and an especially disparaging one at that. Like, "Even total losers can get laid, you're more pathetic than a loser".
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Post by Mo » 04 May 2019, 11:29

It was originally support/advice group for men and women created by a lesbian in the 90s. Then over time it evolved into something more toxic and misogynistic.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 04 May 2019, 12:54

Right. I'm not wholly comfortable with it as a pejorative either, because it does carry some potentially condescending implications. And doing so would be indefensible if it had stuck to its polyglot support group roots. But when you're just another community of entitled white dudes flying the flag of embittered self-pitying misogyny, it's kind of hard to escape the idea that maybe there's a very specific reason that you're not gettin any.
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Post by Aresen » 04 May 2019, 15:45

Hugh Akston wrote:
04 May 2019, 12:54
But when you're just another community of entitled white dudes flying the flag of embittered self-pitying misogyny, it's kind of hard to escape the idea that maybe there's a very specific reason that you're not gettin any.
This squared. I first heard the word at the time of the Toronto van incident. (Or was it the incident before?)

When I read some of their blogs, my first thought was 'why would anyone want to hang around - let alone have sex with - a loser like that?

My second thought was "You're streisanding."
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Post by Eric the .5b » 05 May 2019, 04:03

Yeah, I'm happy to use it pejoratively toward someone acting or talking like the people who call themselves "incels".

Not that it seems to come up, often. I hear of self-identified incels all the time, but I can't think of cases of people objecting to the label being applied to them, ala TERFs or the sneakier sorts of neo-Nazis.
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Post by Warren » 05 May 2019, 10:16

Eric the .5b wrote:
05 May 2019, 04:03
Yeah, I'm happy to use it pejoratively toward someone acting or talking like the people who call themselves "incels".

Not that it seems to come up, often. I hear of self-identified incels all the time, but I can't think of cases of people objecting to the label being applied to them, ala TERFs or the sneakier sorts of neo-Nazis.
I'll accept on faith that there are self identified 'incels' using the term as pretext for being assholes. I don't wade into the interweb muck swamps where I assume such vermin nest.
As a pejorative, I'm seeing it tossed around increasingly frequently by more widely read folks, and it's the gleeful smirking that bothers me.
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 05 May 2019, 15:08

"Christian" started as a pejorative term. It's not exactly a new phenomenon.

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Post by Eric the .5b » 05 May 2019, 16:01

Warren wrote:
05 May 2019, 10:16
Eric the .5b wrote:
05 May 2019, 04:03
Yeah, I'm happy to use it pejoratively toward someone acting or talking like the people who call themselves "incels".

Not that it seems to come up, often. I hear of self-identified incels all the time, but I can't think of cases of people objecting to the label being applied to them, ala TERFs or the sneakier sorts of neo-Nazis.
I'll accept on faith that there are self identified 'incels' using the term as pretext for being assholes. I don't wade into the interweb muck swamps where I assume such vermin nest.
As a pejorative, I'm seeing it tossed around increasingly frequently by more widely read folks, and it's the gleeful smirking that bothers me.
Warren, that's who they're taking about. This isn't a "faith" thing.
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Re: Words I Happen to Dislike

Post by Jasper » 06 May 2019, 12:40

Aresen wrote:
04 May 2019, 09:52
nicole wrote:
04 May 2019, 09:10
Ellie wrote:
04 May 2019, 00:27
Incel means "involuntary celibate," right? I keep thinking it's "intentionally celibate."
Correct. There’s also “volcel,” voluntarily celibate.
That sounds like a Star Wars monster.
It's a hive-mind creature made up of angry fanbois.
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