Iran (so far away)

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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Aresen » 02 Jan 2018, 14:43

Fairly, EVERY head of government faces the dilemma of what to say about and to people seeking democratic/liberal reform in an oppressive state:

On the one hand, you want to let those seeking change that you support their desires. On the other hand, you don't want to taint their movement with the 'foreign stooge' tag that the oppressive government will throw at them. The latter is particularly a problem for US leaders because the US is the favorite scapegoat for all of the world's ills.

Ultimately, I think it has to come down to the notion that you don't mess in other countries' internal politics.
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by thoreau » 02 Jan 2018, 15:01

Aresen wrote:
02 Jan 2018, 14:43
Ultimately, I think it has to come down to the notion that you don't mess in other countries' internal politics.
If there's anyone on earth who has no problem with governments meddling in other countries' internal politics, it's Donaldik Fredovich Trump.
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Aresen » 02 Jan 2018, 15:09

thoreau wrote:
02 Jan 2018, 15:01
Aresen wrote:
02 Jan 2018, 14:43
Ultimately, I think it has to come down to the notion that you don't mess in other countries' internal politics.
If there's anyone on earth who has no problem with governments meddling in other countries' internal politics, it's Donaldik Fredovich Trump.
That occurred to me as I wrote. It applies to both Trump and his FSB controls.
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Mo » 30 Apr 2018, 22:14

So the big news is that Iran had plans for a nuclear weapons program in ... checks calendar ... 2003. This is somehow news in 2018?
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Aresen » 01 May 2018, 00:48

Mo wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 22:14
So the big news is that Iran had plans for a nuclear weapons program in ... checks calendar ... 2003. This is somehow news in 2018?
At this point, they're probably thinking "Saddam, Gadaffi. Why the fuck didn't we build them?"
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Aresen » 30 Jul 2018, 23:30

I have seen this movie before.

Trump says ready to meet Iran's Rouhani

As Trump arrives, he will announce his intention to withdraw all US forces to the Western Hemisphere.

Iran's vague promises to end their nuclear program will be a 'totally better deal' than Obama's. :roll:
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Mo » 31 Jul 2018, 09:34

Aresen wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 23:30
I have seen this movie before.

Trump says ready to meet Iran's Rouhani

As Trump arrives, he will announce his intention to withdraw all US forces to the Western Hemisphere.

Iran's vague promises to end their nuclear program will be a 'totally better deal' than Obama's. :roll:
Trump will take credit for preventing war with Iran.
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Highway » 31 Jul 2018, 10:06

Mo wrote:
Aresen wrote:
30 Jul 2018, 23:30
I have seen this movie before.

Trump says ready to meet Iran's Rouhani

As Trump arrives, he will announce his intention to withdraw all US forces to the Western Hemisphere.

Iran's vague promises to end their nuclear program will be a 'totally better deal' than Obama's. :roll:
Trump will take credit for preventing war with Iran.
Trump is the American epitome of "matchpump".
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Hugh Akston » 06 Aug 2018, 14:29

So Trump is going to follow through on his idiotic promise to punish the Iranian people for whatever.

But he did add this:
Trump announced Monday, however, that he is open to negotiating a new deal. In his statement, Trump noted that “As we continue applying maximum economic pressure on the Iranian regime, I remain open to reaching a more comprehensive deal that addresses the full range of the regime’s malign activities, including its ballistic missile program and its support for terrorism.
The most obvious question being why would anyone believe that a deal with the Trump administration is worth the paper it's printed on?
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Re: Iran (so far away)

Post by Highway » 06 Aug 2018, 14:36

Hah, like Trump's agreements are ever on paper. They're usually just handshakes, and they seem to work out great for everyone who isn't Trump so far. Ask Kim Jong Un how that "denuclearization" is going.
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