Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by dhex » 20 Jul 2017, 09:10

that's a pretty strong restriction for non-company-issued devices (if it includes personal devices - which you could still use via cell signal, no?).
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Sandy » 20 Jul 2017, 09:16

Y'all need VPNs.
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Post by Dangerman » 20 Jul 2017, 09:20

It's not a restriction on using the company network, it's a restriction on any device that could record or store PII, that doesn't have a policy manager installed.

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Post by dhex » 20 Jul 2017, 09:31

ahh.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Mo » 20 Jul 2017, 09:40

Sandy wrote:
20 Jul 2017, 09:16
Y'all need VPNs.
My company blocks pretty much every VPN. Also, it blocks most URL shorteners, which makes clicking a lot of links annoying.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by JasonL » 20 Jul 2017, 09:42

Yes. That's how it works in financial services or really most places where personal info, financial data, or medical stuff are in play.

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Post by Sandy » 20 Jul 2017, 09:47

Mo wrote:
20 Jul 2017, 09:40
Sandy wrote:
20 Jul 2017, 09:16
Y'all need VPNs.
My company blocks pretty much every VPN. Also, it blocks most URL shorteners, which makes clicking a lot of links annoying.
Yeah, I was thinking more of companies like Stevo's, where PII isn't really much of a thing.

Ironically, I have to worry about it and HIPPA, but there's not a big deal about such restrictions here, probably because most of the org is basically marketing.
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Post by lunchstealer » 20 Jul 2017, 12:27

Yeah, I think he does technical writing, not PII stuff, but if his org does enough of that stuff, they may be restrictive even for normies.

However, I think the problem for him is that his work PC is blocked and he doesn't have/use a PC at home. So he uses his phone for most stuff, and I guess twits and facepages are easy enough on a mobile screen, but forums not so much.

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Post by Kolohe » 20 Jul 2017, 12:53

I mean, people could always just do work at work.
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Kolohe wrote:
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I mean, people could always just do work at work.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 12 Aug 2017, 14:35

So there is a family of feral cats hanging out in my back yard. A mom and at least two or three kittens. No way am I qualified to capture them myself, but they need to go to a shelter. Can I call municipal animal control to come and get them?

EDIT: Apparently not. Municipal animal control doesn't pick up stray cats, which is dumb because they are probably the biggest menace as far as animals go.
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Post by Kolohe » 12 Aug 2017, 15:53

I don't think retro-swing rockabilly has been a threat to public health since 1998 or so.
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Post by dbcooper » 12 Aug 2017, 17:37

Hugh Akston wrote:
12 Aug 2017, 14:35
So there is a family of feral cats hanging out in my back yard. A mom and at least two or three kittens. No way am I qualified to capture them myself, but they need to go to a shelter. Can I call municipal animal control to come and get them?

EDIT: Apparently not. Municipal animal control doesn't pick up stray cats, which is dumb because they are probably the biggest menace as far as animals go.
A lot of animal shelters will lend you a trap.

r/cats etc will offer advice.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Jasper » 21 Mar 2018, 09:48

Over the past couple of weeks, at work, I've gotten "Recall: blah blah..." email notifications, usually several minutes to half an hour after the original email was sent. In each case, the original email seemed fine, to me anyway; mostly just keeping the project conversation going.

Is there any sort of etiquette about these notifications if you've already read the original email and it's sitting in your inbox?
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Highway » 21 Mar 2018, 09:59

Are these emails from other people just trying to put the ball back in your court without actually doing any work? Or is this something being generated by your email system or local client? Or maybe something from someone else's email system? I've never seen that kind of thing.
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Post by Ellie » 21 Mar 2018, 10:10

I've only ever seen it used to correct a mistake in the recalled email, like they were sending reports from all the committees but forgot to include one.

Maybe they're confusing "recall" with "reply all"?
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Post by Jasper » 21 Mar 2018, 10:30

Unsure. When it happened, the email was to a group of folks, both at my company and internally at theirs. This last one was specifically to us, or at least my boss, but there didn't seem to be any dicey info being shared that the sender then had second thoughts about, but I can't be sure of that either, of course.

The message in the body of the recall email is: [SENDER] would like to recall the message, "SUBJECT LINE". No idea if it's a system message or client-side.

It's just weird. I've never seen it before either, in my 11 years here, and then suddenly 2 or 3 times in the last month.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Aresen » 21 Mar 2018, 10:33

I used the recall feature a few times, usually when I'd sent something prematurely and had to gather more info.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Highway » 21 Mar 2018, 10:42

Oh, *that* Recall is that they're trying to unsend the email that you've already gotten. It's someone found a feature that they think works one way, but it really doesn't because email doesn't work that way as an open protocol. So basically it sends out another message asking your server to ignore that it got that message, but since it's already passed it on to the client, it just tells you "Oh, this person screwed up."
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Aresen » 21 Mar 2018, 11:02

Highway wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 10:42
Oh, *that* Recall is that they're trying to unsend the email that you've already gotten. It's someone found a feature that they think works one way, but it really doesn't because email doesn't work that way as an open protocol. So basically it sends out another message asking your server to ignore that it got that message, but since it's already passed it on to the client, it just tells you "Oh, this person screwed up."
Uh, no. If the email has not been opened, the recall will delete it from the inbox, at least in the versions I have seen. If the email has been opened, the sender gets a 'recall failed' notification.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Ellie » 21 Mar 2018, 11:12

Aresen wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 11:02
Highway wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 10:42
Oh, *that* Recall is that they're trying to unsend the email that you've already gotten. It's someone found a feature that they think works one way, but it really doesn't because email doesn't work that way as an open protocol. So basically it sends out another message asking your server to ignore that it got that message, but since it's already passed it on to the client, it just tells you "Oh, this person screwed up."
Uh, no. If the email has not been opened, the recall will delete it from the inbox, at least in the versions I have seen. If the email has been opened, the sender gets a 'recall failed' notification.
I got one just yesterday that didn't delete the original even though I hadn't read it. So my inbox looked like (all unread):

REPORTS #1 from Foo Bar
Recall: Microsoft Outlook would like to recall the message "REPORTS #1"
REPORTS #1 -- Second Try from Foo Bar
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Highway » 21 Mar 2018, 11:35

Aresen wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 11:02
Highway wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 10:42
Oh, *that* Recall is that they're trying to unsend the email that you've already gotten. It's someone found a feature that they think works one way, but it really doesn't because email doesn't work that way as an open protocol. So basically it sends out another message asking your server to ignore that it got that message, but since it's already passed it on to the client, it just tells you "Oh, this person screwed up."
Uh, no. If the email has not been opened, the recall will delete it from the inbox, at least in the versions I have seen. If the email has been opened, the sender gets a 'recall failed' notification.
That's only if your email system is compliant with the email system that sends the recall and accepts recalls. Most are not.
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Jasper » 21 Mar 2018, 12:34

Fellas and Lady, my question was about etiquette around the recall notice once you've already read the original email. Don't really care how or why it works. ;)
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by Highway » 21 Mar 2018, 12:38

Jasper wrote:
21 Mar 2018, 12:34
Fellas and Lady, my question was about etiquette around the recall notice once you've already read the original email. Don't really care how or why it works. ;)
Just ignore it and the original email. I mean, if it's something incriminating or insulting, then you're going to remember it, but generally it's not that kind of stuff. Just another thing you don't have to deal with. :)
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Re: Questions for the Grylliade Non-Hive Mind

Post by nicole » 21 Mar 2018, 12:50

Yeah, just pretend you never saw any of it.
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