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Ellie wrote: 19 Oct 2020, 22:34
There's no way you could do that joke now is there? That's kind of depressing.
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It'll be interesting to see what that story says. Mean time, here's the Intercept's response.
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nicole wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 13:46
I hope he remembers to cancel Mona's subscription.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 15:41 It'll be interesting to see what that story says. Mean time, here's the Intercept's response.
The narrative Glenn presents about his departure is teeming with distortions and inaccuracies — all of them designed to make him appear as a victim, rather than a grown person throwing a tantrum. It would take too long to point them all out here, but we intend to correct the record in time. For now, it is important to make clear that our goal in editing his work was to ensure that it would be accurate and fair. While he accuses us of political bias, it was he who was attempting to recycle the dubious claims of a political campaign — the Trump campaign — and launder them as journalism.
Here is the article https://greenwald.substack.com/p/articl ... n-censored

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Greenwald's draft article is up on Substack, as is his lengthy complaint against The Intercept.

Honestly, Greenwald's right. The mainstream media, 99.99% of the Left Coast, tens of thousands of federal employees are all in the bag for Biden. Come to think of it, me, too. I don't care. Trump's that bad.

They're probably also legitimately scared shitless at the prospect of publishing anything with even the remotest possibility of a Comey Letter impact. We'll see how soon, win or lose, Biden begins to get some genuine scrutiny after the election. I, for one, certainly look forward to criticizing President Biden as often as possible.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 18:23I, for one, certainly look forward to criticizing President Biden as often as possible.
+1

I will love nothing more than calling my Congresswoman to complain about President Biden's mundanely bad policies. Or griping to whichever Senator replaces Kamala Harris.
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thoreau wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 18:32
D.A. Ridgely wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 18:23I, for one, certainly look forward to criticizing President Biden as often as possible.
+1

I will love nothing more than calling my Congresswoman to complain about President Biden's mundanely bad policies. Or griping to whichever Senator replaces Kamala Harris.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 18:23 Greenwald's draft article is up on Substack, as is his lengthy complaint against The Intercept.

Honestly, Greenwald's right. The mainstream media, 99.99% of the Left Coast, tens of thousands of federal employees are all in the bag for Biden. Come to think of it, me, too. I don't care. Trump's that bad.

They're probably also legitimately scared shitless at the prospect of publishing anything with even the remotest possibility of a Comey Letter impact. We'll see how soon, win or lose, Biden begins to get some genuine scrutiny after the election. I, for one, certainly look forward to criticizing President Biden as often as possible.
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Greenwald is not wrong. He's also a weird baby.
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So tl;dr the mainstream media, coastal elites, and deep state are doing exactly what the rightwing nutsos accuse them of doing, but it's all justified because orange man bad.
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Yes.
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dhex wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 21:09 Greenwald is not wrong. He's also a weird baby.
I dunno, feel like his editors are justified in saying "dude, not gonna let you spend an article JAQ-ing off about Biden. Either make an argument or cut the section."
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Have they never read his stuff before? They're within their rights of course. And he's being both principled and also a giant baby.

But the general media treatment of Twitters gasoline in the fire approach to the posts trash sourced story has striesanded that shit so unnecessarily. Malpractice I say. Malpractice.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 21:33 So tl;dr the mainstream media, coastal elites, and deep state are doing exactly what the rightwing nutsos accuse them of doing, but it's all justified because orange man bad.
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nicole wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 06:14
Hugh Akston wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 21:33 So tl;dr the mainstream media, coastal elites, and deep state are doing exactly what the rightwing nutsos accuse them of doing, but it's all justified because orange man bad.
Shhhhh
I mean ignoring ideals, values, laws, rules and norms seems to work out pretty well for Team Red. They enjoy not only electoral success but also widespread popularity and legitimacy. I can see why Team Blue would adopt the same ethos of whatever it takes so long as our guy ends up in office.

So now that both teams are playing "we must burn down America in order to save it", can someone tell me again how one team is definitely better than the other?
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nicole wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 11:08
*cough* *cough* Trail of tears.
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It would be nice if someone could make actually good points like that without slipping "therefore Donald Trump is good" into the thread.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 10:34
nicole wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 06:14
Hugh Akston wrote: 29 Oct 2020, 21:33 So tl;dr the mainstream media, coastal elites, and deep state are doing exactly what the rightwing nutsos accuse them of doing, but it's all justified because orange man bad.
Shhhhh
I mean ignoring ideals, values, laws, rules and norms seems to work out pretty well for Team Red. They enjoy not only electoral success but also widespread popularity and legitimacy. I can see why Team Blue would adopt the same ethos of whatever it takes so long as our guy ends up in office.

So now that both teams are playing "we must burn down America in order to save it", can someone tell me again how one team is definitely better than the other?
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What has that duck ever done to deserve that?
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Pham Nuwen wrote: 30 Oct 2020, 21:40 What has that duck ever done to deserve that?
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