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It’s About Time: Microsoft Is Finally Killing My People

Maybe it was intentional clickbait, but wow, that is a terrible headline. (More accurate would be "Microsoft is finally removing the "My People" feature")
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Utter crap to the point of being actively mendacious:
Since its discovery in 1923, the price of insulin has risen in America from $1 (78p) per vial to about $300 (£233).
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-50419527)

Your first thought, like mine, is probably that that must not be accounting for inflation. But it's worse than that: if you click through the link in the sentence, the linked article actually says
In 1923, the discoverers of insulin sold its patent for $1, hoping the low price would keep the essential treatment available to everyone who needed it.
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47491964)

So a) they're not accounting for inflation, of course, but b) they're actively conflating two very different things to the point where the statement becomes completely untrue.
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JD wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 15:18
It’s About Time: Microsoft Is Finally Killing My People

Maybe it was intentional clickbait, but wow, that is a terrible headline. (More accurate would be "Microsoft is finally removing the "My People" feature")
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JD wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 15:24
Utter crap to the point of being actively mendacious:
Since its discovery in 1923, the price of insulin has risen in America from $1 (78p) per vial to about $300 (£233).
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-50419527)

Your first thought, like mine, is probably that that must not be accounting for inflation. But it's worse than that: if you click through the link in the sentence, the linked article actually says
In 1923, the discoverers of insulin sold its patent for $1, hoping the low price would keep the essential treatment available to everyone who needed it.
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47491964)

So a) they're not accounting for inflation, of course, but b) they're actively conflating two very different things to the point where the statement becomes completely untrue.
That story has been floating around for a while (I think Jennifer covered it in more detail somewhere else). The actual patent on insulin itself is in the public domain. The issue is more that the Pharmaceutical companies keep pushing their 'improved' (and patented) variants and limiting the supply of the basic drug.
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Aresen wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 19:05
JD wrote:
14 Nov 2019, 15:24
Utter crap to the point of being actively mendacious:
Since its discovery in 1923, the price of insulin has risen in America from $1 (78p) per vial to about $300 (£233).
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-50419527)

Your first thought, like mine, is probably that that must not be accounting for inflation. But it's worse than that: if you click through the link in the sentence, the linked article actually says
In 1923, the discoverers of insulin sold its patent for $1, hoping the low price would keep the essential treatment available to everyone who needed it.
(https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-47491964)

So a) they're not accounting for inflation, of course, but b) they're actively conflating two very different things to the point where the statement becomes completely untrue.
That story has been floating around for a while (I think Jennifer covered it in more detail somewhere else). The actual patent on insulin itself is in the public domain. The issue is more that the Pharmaceutical companies keep pushing their 'improved' (and patented) variants and limiting the supply of the basic drug.
Except, supposedly, more recent versions do work better for people, hence the while "$25 Wal-Mart insulin isn't good enough" complaint.
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Hey, I wrote to the BBC using their feedback form to complain about the article, and they actually went and updated it!
Since its discovery in 1923, when the patent was sold for $1, the cost of insulin has risen in America to about $300 (£233).
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Correction 15 November: This article has been amended to make it clear that the patent for insulin was sold for $1 in 1923, where previously it said the cost of the drug was $1.
So kudos to them for that.
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Mo wrote:
18 Aug 2019, 18:34
I will admit that I haven’t read anything from the NYT 1619 Project, but I am interested. The weird thing is how many people whose job it is to read and critique these sorts of things have the vapors about it and haven’t read a single word of it. Like criticism of it would be understandable if you were able to point out where the history was wrong or where the conclusions go to far. But if you’re going with, “ It hurts my feelings,” I’m not taking you seriously.
I thought we had broken off a separate thread for the 1619 project discussion but I guess not.

Conor Friedersdorf has a new column in The Atlantic arguing that "academic historians, conservatives, and Trotskyite socialists rightly reject The New York Times’ reframing of the past." It has a good summary of the criticisms and responses thus far; I thought it was pretty, pretty, pretty good overall. (If anyone isn't aware of the World Socialist Website critiques of the 1619 Project, it's a great summary of that.)

The core of Friedersdorf's own affirmative argument in favor of 1776 is basically this:
In her essay, Hannah-Jones illuminates the brutality of slavery and the vital ways in which African Americans helped bring about a more perfect union, underscoring the impressiveness of their contributions by skillfully juxtaposing the subjugation most faced with the patriotism most exhibited. “Despite being violently denied the freedom and justice promised to all,” she wrote, “black Americans believed fervently in the American creed.” I concur with her that the plantations of antebellum America are better called “forced labor camps,” that black abolitionists warrant status as Founding Fathers, and that “no people has a greater claim” than African Americans to the Stars and Stripes.

I would add that neither the white settlers at Jamestown, nor the enslaved Africans sold there, nor the author of the Declaration, nor the African Americans denied the rights enumerated therein, nor any of the people celebrated on national holidays has any greater claim to this country’s flag than the most recently naturalized American of any race, color, or creed. Neither white nor black Americans belong at the center of U.S. history, because no racial group belongs there more or less than any other.

American members of the Mayflower Society; descendants of enslaved Africans; Navajos; grandchildren of refugees from Communist dictatorships; Hispanics with ancestors subsumed into the U.S. with the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo; and newly naturalized, foreign-born Muslims all share this: utterly equal claims to this creedal, individualist nation, where citizenship is grounded in universalist ideals. The United States can flourish, with its many races, ethnicities, religions, and national-origin groups, because all sorts of people can unite around the principles that every human is created equal and endowed with unalienable rights to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness. America flounders most when blood-and-soil factions reject those principles.
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Sorry, NYT reader, but you are being stupidly partisan here:

Readers hold President Trump responsible for the 176 deaths, along with the Iranians.
Under the law, we are responsible for “accidental” consequences of our actions that a rational observer would anticipate. Knowing the tensions, animosities and distrust that cut across Iran and the region, a rational observer would have anticipated the possibility, even the likelihood, of such an accident as the Iranian downing of the Ukrainian jet following the turmoil that our president’s assassination of Maj. Gen. Qassim Suleimani unleashed and the belligerent posturing with which he continues to aggravate that turmoil.

The deaths of the 176 passengers and crew are added to those of Kurds in Syria and Puerto Rican hurricane victims, for which our president’s actions and cruel lack of interest in others’ suffering are responsible.
No. No. No. No. However much I dislike Trump, I cannot hang this on him.
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Okay, mea culpa, I should've known better than to read something in Salon and yet I did anyway: "Against meal kits." I guessed the argument would be an environmental one -- stop wasting all the resources and energy required for the individual packaging and daily deliveries, etc. -- but I was off-base. Way off-base.

Anybody want to guess Salon's objection to meal kit services, before I go on and tell you?

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... In short, meal kits are gentrifying cooking. They take something accessible, creative, casual and very easy, and make it appear to be a rarefied task that only professionals can teach. They sell the professional experience and advice through their products.

This is the other sinister capitalist" innovation" at the heart of meal kit marketing. Specifically, the marketing around them creates anxiety in consumers, and then immediately assuages it. The anxiety emerges in the idea that cooking efficiently and shopping for groceries is difficult — a rare art that only specific professionals can master. Then it assuages that anxiety by offering customers the opportunity to enjoy the fruits of those experts' work.

As chef and writer Alison Cayne wrote in the New York Post, "I think of [meal kits] like riding a bike. Meal kits promised to be the training wheels, eventually getting folks to the 'Look Ma! No hands!' moment. But therein lies the big miss. There is no 'Look Ma!' moment."

In short, the aspiring Blue Apron home cook can't halt their subscription, or said anxiety returns. You have to keep subscribing forever. That's the genius of the marketing.
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Fucking Salon.
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Hard to believe someone got paid money for that.
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Tfw you think 90s suburban boys masturbated to fantasies of middle-aged white guys and not...Jennifer Lopez
Sooo. People are pissed—rightly so, I think—about the particularly white, particularly male slate of nominations for this year’s Academy Awards.* For example, in a year with movies like Little Women (directed by Greta Gerwig), The Farewell (directed by Lulu Wang), and Hustlers (directed by Lorene Scafaria) the best director nominees are a mid-1990s suburban teen boy’s wet dream: Quentin Tarantino, Martin Scorsese, Todd f*cking Phillips, poet of the plastic bag Sam Mendes, and, thankfully, Bong Joon Ho, for Parasite. Also, Jennifer Lopez was robbed, again. Fuck that.
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Where is that from?
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Sorry, unintentionally forgot to paste the link to one of the worst sites on the internet https://lithub.com/oscar-nominations-an ... ite-dudes/
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*Every year we try to tell ourselves the Oscars are old and outdated and stupid and yet it remains very hard not to care.
She should try harder to not care. It's glorious.
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dead_elvis wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 15:33
*Every year we try to tell ourselves the Oscars are old and outdated and stupid and yet it remains very hard not to care.
She should try harder to not care. It's glorious.
I cannot remember any of the winners of the Best Picture, Best Actor, and Best Actress categories for the last decade.
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Once you decide to stop caring it gets easier every year.
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I don't know that I ever cared. Certainly never watched them save in the long long ago before the DVR and some other program I was watching went to commercial.
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I know for sure that I never cared.
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The Oscars are just industry awards. Normally no one outside whatever industry is being awarded cares about industry awards. The Oscars just happens to be in an industry that has a widely seen public face so outsiders can chime in. Unfortunately this gives them an inflated sense of self worth well beyond what they actually deserve.

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I once heard Penn Jillette say "All awards shows are just a YMCA banquet writ large".
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Aresen wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 15:40
dead_elvis wrote:
13 Jan 2020, 15:33
*Every year we try to tell ourselves the Oscars are old and outdated and stupid and yet it remains very hard not to care.
She should try harder to not care. It's glorious.
I cannot remember any of the winners of the Best Picture, Best Actor, and Best Actress categories for the last decade.
Birdman was good. Beyond that, couldn't say.
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This article just keeps getting better and better all the way until the penultimate paragraph, about how Elizabeth Stoker Bruenig doesn’t realize that exactly who she is is an enemy of fun: https://www.theatlantic.com/health/arch ... nt/604876/
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