When journalism goes bad

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 19 Feb 2019, 07:57

Oh Alabama, please stop trying to make Florida feel better about itself.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dead_elvis » 02 Mar 2019, 10:54

More about the layout than journalism but while the story of how this woman got to run this paper is interesting enough this grabbed my attention; is there really no possible way to avoid that?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dhex » 02 Mar 2019, 11:37

Hahaha yes there are easy ways to avoid full justification splits.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Hugh Akston » 02 Mar 2019, 15:01

That whole page needs to be declared a state disaster area.
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Post by dhex » 02 Mar 2019, 15:31

Fewer columns would have fixed that.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 02 Mar 2019, 15:52

That or tweaking the font size and/or replacing the slash with an "and"
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Post by Mo » 03 Mar 2019, 06:29

Hugh Akston wrote:That or tweaking the font size and/or replacing the slash with an "and"
You still have “D e m o c r a t” and “ Dexter. My”.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 03 Mar 2019, 12:41

Mo wrote:
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Hugh Akston wrote:That or tweaking the font size and/or replacing the slash with an "and"
You still have “D e m o c r a t” and “ Dexter. My”.
Allow me to reference my earlier codicil about how the whole page is a disaster. I'm willing to bet there are two spaces after periods in that trash fire of a layout.
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Post by Jennifer » 03 Mar 2019, 16:59

Jesus, even old-fashioned Bibles don't use such narrow-margined columns. That's a freaking mess.
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Post by Kwix » 15 Mar 2019, 18:16

No shocker, the NYT editorial board doesn't understand risk and how it's not all black n white:
Mr. Elwell has insisted that the F.A.A. made its decisions solely on the basis of safety. But if safety was the only consideration, then any risk would have warranted action.
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Post by Mo » 15 Mar 2019, 18:50

Kwix wrote:No shocker, the NYT editorial board doesn't understand risk and how it's not all black n white:
Mr. Elwell has insisted that the F.A.A. made its decisions solely on the basis of safety. But if safety was the only consideration, then any risk would have warranted action.
True. Though this FAA action seemed much more focused on first order cost benefit analysis than looking at the second and third order effects. I.e. if there was an accident on an American 737, how would that affect flying decisions in the near term and how much legitimacy would there be if there was another borderline call. There aren’t enough 737 Max 8s in the US where the 1st order costs were that high.
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Post by fyodor » 15 Mar 2019, 20:03

Mo wrote:
15 Mar 2019, 18:50
Kwix wrote:No shocker, the NYT editorial board doesn't understand risk and how it's not all black n white:
Mr. Elwell has insisted that the F.A.A. made its decisions solely on the basis of safety. But if safety was the only consideration, then any risk would have warranted action.
True. Though this FAA action seemed much more focused on first order cost benefit analysis than looking at the second and third order effects. I.e. if there was an accident on an American 737, how would that affect flying decisions in the near term and how much legitimacy would there be if there was another borderline call. There aren’t enough 737 Max 8s in the US where the 1st order costs were that high.
IOW, CYA has its societal benefits? Haha, well okay, not exactly CYA.

But no one really wants to admit there are these down-order effects that do deserve consideration. So it all comes out gobbley-gook subtext....
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 15 Mar 2019, 21:04

Fyodor! I have missed you my friend!
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Post by Eric the .5b » 16 Mar 2019, 00:52

Same here! Hey, Fyodor.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 16 Mar 2019, 10:07

Too soon, too soon.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by nicole » 08 May 2019, 10:21

Not to defend this policy, but...this headline
Students who owe lunch money in Rhode Island will only get jelly sandwiches until debt is paid
is definitely not accurate
Students at a Rhode Island school district who owe money on their lunch accounts will have the sole option of a sunflower butter and jelly sandwich until they are able to pay their balances, the district announced Sunday.
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Post by JD » 08 May 2019, 10:34

nicole wrote:
08 May 2019, 10:21
Not to defend this policy, but...this headline
Students who owe lunch money in Rhode Island will only get jelly sandwiches until debt is paid
is definitely not accurate
Students at a Rhode Island school district who owe money on their lunch accounts will have the sole option of a sunflower butter and jelly sandwich until they are able to pay their balances, the district announced Sunday.
ETA https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna10 ... ssion=true
I wonder what they'll do with students who are allergic to sunflower seed. Just jelly, probably. But what if you're diabetic as well? Just the bread? What if you're also celiac?
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Post by Warren » 08 May 2019, 10:37

Has anyone had sunflower butter? How does it stack up against peanut butter?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Ellie » 08 May 2019, 12:39

I don't know anybody who PREFERS sunflower seed butter, although I'm sure that weirdo exists somewhere (probably posting in the food threads on Grylliade) but it's a fine plan B if you can't have nuts.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by lunchstealer » 08 May 2019, 13:01

Yeah, I'm sure it's a zero-peanut-allergen-tolerance thing.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by JD » 08 May 2019, 13:23

Ellie wrote:
08 May 2019, 12:39
I don't know anybody who PREFERS sunflower seed butter, although I'm sure that weirdo exists somewhere (probably posting in the food threads on Grylliade) but it's a fine plan B if you can't have nuts.
I tried some Reese's Cups-style thing with sunflower seed butter instead of peanut butter, and I thought it was gross, because the flavor is just off enough to make you say "there's something wrong with this peanut butter". It probably does not help that I am mildly allergic to sunflower seeds (but not peanuts).
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Post by Mo » 08 May 2019, 15:30

I wonder if kids these days have a taste for sunbutter. They serve them in daycares on the regular.
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Post by nicole » 09 May 2019, 13:23

The policy has now been reversed because social media erupted but I have to say...uh...I find it really weird to see people specifically complaining about how kids should be able to have hot lunches, and cold sandwiches are some kind of problem, because I had cold sandwiches for lunch throughout school? Because...hot lunch was fucking gross? Wtf is wrong with eating a cold sandwich for lunch?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by JasonL » 09 May 2019, 13:29

It's not a problem if you are privileged enough to be able to choose a cold lunch. It's a problem if you are an oppressed person with limited choices. Ham sandwiches can punch up but not down.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jasper » 09 May 2019, 15:36

What Jason said.

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