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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 14 Jul 2017, 15:30

Eric the .5b wrote:
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If only targeting were any good
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Re: When journalism goes bad

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Facebook has been cramming my feed with ads for the Dexcom glucose monitor ever since I bought a Dexcom glucose monitor. Like, yes, I believe you that it's a revolution in diabetes care, you can stop now.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Sandy » 14 Jul 2017, 18:01

Unfortunately, I've been looking but not buying lots of synthesizers, and it's been taunting me.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 14 Jul 2017, 19:14

I don't understand how people can grow to adulthood in the United States without developing the lobe of the brain that filters out advertising.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by fyodor » 14 Jul 2017, 20:07

Warren wrote:
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I don't understand how people can grow to adulthood in the United States without developing the lobe of the brain that filters out advertising.
That's the whole thing. It never used to be targeted. That makes it different. Somewhat, anyway....
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Hugh Akston » 17 Jul 2017, 14:50

Otoh, I did get a contextual ad at H&R for the Castleton campus bookstore, which I may or may have not googled many moons ago while watching Time Chasers at work.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Aresen » 17 Jul 2017, 16:26

fyodor wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 20:07
Warren wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 19:14
I don't understand how people can grow to adulthood in the United States without developing the lobe of the brain that filters out advertising.
That's the whole thing. It never used to be targeted. That makes it different. Somewhat, anyway....
Sometimes the targeting is frighteningly accurate and I have no idea how. (Today, I started getting ads for smart phones - something I have not looked into online, but have considered.)
Other times it is hilariously off. (Really, I am not interested in Canesten.)
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by fyodor » 17 Jul 2017, 17:24

Aresen wrote:
17 Jul 2017, 16:26
fyodor wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 20:07
Warren wrote:
14 Jul 2017, 19:14
I don't understand how people can grow to adulthood in the United States without developing the lobe of the brain that filters out advertising.
That's the whole thing. It never used to be targeted. That makes it different. Somewhat, anyway....
Sometimes the targeting is frighteningly accurate and I have no idea how. (Today, I started getting ads for smart phones - something I have not looked into online, but have considered.)
Other times it is hilariously off. (Really, I am not interested in Canesten.)
Either way, you notice it a helluva lot more than generic advertising.

We'll just need to grow a new lobe....
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by nicole » 18 Jul 2017, 10:26

This is so terrible I don't know what to quote, I'm losing it http://www.avclub.com/article/why-order ... ren-258058
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Hugh Akston » 18 Jul 2017, 10:54

There are a lot of negative connotations to words like "death camp" and "genocide", but I think the future will look back on the Foodie Holocaust and say it ultimately strengthened the nation.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 18 Jul 2017, 11:05

fyodor wrote:
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Either way, you notice it a helluva lot more than generic advertising.
Depends on what your definition of "helluva lot more" is. I notice it for maybe several milliseconds, whereas I notice generic advertising for maybe a couple hundred microseconds. So like a hundred times more, but still not at all. However, I'll sign on to "sometimes it gets me" and throws up something I'm actively interested in buying and I will actually click on it. So as advertising goes, it's infinitely more effective on me. Even better, I can still pay it no mind.

OTOH Animated ads are insufferable. Blinking or movement draws my eye and if I can't block it or put it out of the window somehow, I can't be on that page. Bookface rotates their ads now, and when they scroll it distracts me. About the second time that happens I have to click away.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

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nicole wrote:
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This is so terrible I don't know what to quote, I'm losing it http://www.avclub.com/article/why-order ... ren-258058
Wow. That is an impressive amount of wrongness. Indeed the density of wrong exceeds critical mass and collapses in on itself to form a blog hole that sucks intelligence out of the reader. I'm glad I didn't read past the event horizon.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dhex » 18 Jul 2017, 13:29

jesus fucking christ i hope his kid grows up to we need to talk about kevin him
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dhex » 18 Jul 2017, 13:31

also for fuck's sake just share parts of your dishes with your fucking 4 year old if being an upper middle class twat is that important to you.
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Post by Sandy » 18 Jul 2017, 15:35

I like how she thinks high sodium, unhealthy food is relegated to the children's portion of the menu.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 18 Jul 2017, 15:45

Sandy wrote:
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I like how she thinks high sodium, unhealthy food is relegated to the children's portion of the menu.
My Berkshire pork belly is perfectly healthy brah.
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Post by Sandy » 18 Jul 2017, 15:57

Mo wrote:
Sandy wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 15:35
I like how she thinks high sodium, unhealthy food is relegated to the children's portion of the menu.
My Berkshire pork belly is perfectly healthy brah.
Now I'm hungry.
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Post by dead_elvis » 18 Jul 2017, 16:49

Sandy wrote:
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I like how she thinks high sodium, unhealthy food is relegated to the children's portion of the menu.
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Post by Warren » 18 Jul 2017, 20:11

There's a good deal to be said about limited taste. Indeed we recently said quite a bit about it. I am squarely and emphatically on the side of "People should broaden their taste beyond the four American food groups of sugar, salt, starch, and fat". Towards that end I support parents introducing their children to a variety of food.

That said. It is folly to deny the reality of the immature palate. There is a reason every single children's menu consists of fish sticks, hot dogs, and mac & cheese. Maybe you're fortunate enough to have a child willing to try the twice baked potato with caramelized onions. And if you're real lucky, maybe the kid even likes it. But chances are he'd be happier with french fries. And if you're not so lucky, a fine dining establishment is not the place to be fighting it out.
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Post by dead_elvis » 18 Jul 2017, 22:46

I find a rough correlation between mellow kids and parents who just feed them bits of whatever they're eating. I once saw a mom feeding her toddler/baby can't remember exactly bits from her vegetable curry. My wife and I are convinced it's possible if you start before they are even conscious of what they're eating. The kids I see whose parents indulge as far as cooking separate meals, they... end up difficult. At the same time, I don't have kids so I try not to judge, I know sometimes you just want them to stop screaming.

For me, anything was possible to choke down with enough gulps of milk.
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Post by Mo » 18 Jul 2017, 23:05

I disagree. My son got more picky as he got older. When he was 18 months, we could feed him okra from the local Indian place and he had somewhat spicy mac and cheese at a BBQ joint. Now he's picky as fuck. Granted, he's three, so everything is so fucking dramatic, but the backslide was odd.
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Post by nicole » 18 Jul 2017, 23:22

Mo wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 23:05
I disagree. My son got more picky as he got older. When he was 18 months, we could feed him okra from the local Indian place and he had somewhat spicy mac and cheese at a BBQ joint. Now he's picky as fuck. Granted, he's three, so everything is so fucking dramatic, but the backslide was odd.
I've heard this is a thing.
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Post by Mo » 18 Jul 2017, 23:25

Also, I was a picky eater for most of my life, now I'm an adventurous eater. Childhood is not life.
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Post by Jennifer » 19 Jul 2017, 00:22

Mo wrote:
18 Jul 2017, 23:05
I disagree. My son got more picky as he got older. When he was 18 months, we could feed him okra from the local Indian place and he had somewhat spicy mac and cheese at a BBQ joint. Now he's picky as fuck. Granted, he's three, so everything is so fucking dramatic, but the backslide was odd.
I recall reading a plausible-sounding theory that the reason most children become picky eaters at that age (specifically, the age where they're capable of feeding themselves as opposed to waiting for someone to breast-feed or spoon-feed them) is because it evolved as a survival mechanism: a prehistoric toddler with adventurous food habits is far more likely to eat poison berries or something that would a picky, conservative eater who doesn't like to try new things.

Out of curiosity: do you recall roughly how much time passed, between his deciding he didn't like those foods, compared to the last time he'd eaten and liked them? I'm guessing it was long enough for a kid his age to have completely forgotten his previous experience with liking them.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jennifer » 19 Jul 2017, 00:28

Plus, of course, kids in general have different taste buds than adults, and far less tolerance for bitter and sour flavors. (I personally hated cheese -- except for mac-n-cheese, and mozzarella on pizzas -- until I was almost an adult. Now, of course, I melt cheese on pretty much everything.)
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