When journalism goes bad

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Kolohe » 28 Aug 2017, 12:03

nicole wrote:
28 Aug 2017, 11:47
In which Breitbart pretends not to know how anything works in order to defend Gorka/ruin the week of some poor young woman: http://www.breitbart.com/big-government ... -to-press/
I guess my only comment is a point of order on what this thread's verb tense implies for content. Brietbart has been bad for a while, and famously tuined the week of some poor young woman last year with Michelle Fields.

(Ms. Sadler also graduated high school sometime before 1999, so she's not that young anymore, and has worked at the Washington Times and now for Trump, so ya know, sympathy meter isn't exactly pegged)
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 28 Aug 2017, 15:18

I don't think this person has ever played fantasy football in their life.
Let’s say your draft is in its fifth round, and you’ve selected three reliable quarterbacks and two satisfactory tight ends. You desperately need both a running back and wide receiver, but the top positional player undrafted so far is a QB. Take the QB! Every draft is different, and sometimes we won’t get our most desirable position, but don’t cripple yourself by evading crucial positions thinking this increases the value of your squad.
Wat? Why do you need 4 QBs?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 28 Aug 2017, 15:22

Mo wrote:
28 Aug 2017, 15:18
I don't think this person has ever played fantasy football in their life.
Let’s say your draft is in its fifth round, and you’ve selected three reliable quarterbacks and two satisfactory tight ends. You desperately need both a running back and wide receiver, but the top positional player undrafted so far is a QB. Take the QB! Every draft is different, and sometimes we won’t get our most desirable position, but don’t cripple yourself by evading crucial positions thinking this increases the value of your squad.
Wat? Why do you need 4 QBs?
Sounds like Mo doesn't know how to think outside the box.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dbcooper » 28 Aug 2017, 19:21

Slip inside a sleeping bag.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Eric the .5b » 03 Sep 2017, 19:58

Yeah. I've been seeing variations on that since Hunger Games was still a book. Any depiction of rebellion against the state gives some lefties the hives. I'm actually surprised, given it's a UK outlet, that there's no invocation of the IRA. Maybe the generation of commentators who'd always equate any fictional rebellion against tyranny to IRA bombings has finally retired.
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Post by Jennifer » 03 Sep 2017, 20:37

I've never read any of the Hunger Games books or seen the movies (though I know the broad outline of the story via cultural osmosis), and I know nothing of the other two YA dystopias mentioned in the article, but even knowing nothing of them except what the article says, I can still tell the article is shit. Like this bit:
As a line from the elite who rule society in The Giver states: "When people have the power to choose, they choose wrong."
So... I'm supposed to think it's bad, that a story should present such an attitude as one held by evil people?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dead_elvis » 03 Sep 2017, 21:27

He felt that YA dystopias were a good way of teaching kids to "question authority" - these books, after all, had protagonists who exposed the lies of their societies, they were standing up against those in power.
I see her complaint as leftover schizophrenia on the American left from the new left/old left split from the 60s. There was simultaneously the anti-authoritarianism of the hippies and yippies at the same time that traditional leftists were advocating for... more authority. Well, which is it? Her argument makes it sound like she thinks the answer was supposed to be more.
Yes there is a critique of statism at the heart of these books, but you might say, big deal: every teenager is a rampant individualist, a libertarian.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by lunchstealer » 04 Sep 2017, 04:12

Jennifer wrote:
As a line from the elite who rule society in The Giver states: "When people have the power to choose, they choose wrong."
So... I'm supposed to think it's bad, that a story should present such an attitude as one held by evil people?
In the context of the novel/novella, the government engages heavily in mind control to suppress emotion and will. You don't make wrong choices partly because the govt makes them for you, but partly because you take injections each day that as suppresses any interest in choosing.

But yeah, this isn't the American left. This is the British left or far left, and I'd feel comfortable wagering a large bar tab that she's pretty much full tankie.
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Post by Jennifer » 04 Sep 2017, 14:25

lunchstealer wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 04:12
Jennifer wrote:
As a line from the elite who rule society in The Giver states: "When people have the power to choose, they choose wrong."
So... I'm supposed to think it's bad, that a story should present such an attitude as one held by evil people?
In the context of the novel/novella, the government engages heavily in mind control to suppress emotion and will. You don't make wrong choices partly because the govt makes them for you, but partly because you take injections each day that as suppresses any interest in choosing.

But yeah, this isn't the American left. This is the British left or far left, and I'd feel comfortable wagering a large bar tab that she's pretty much full tankie.
Thing is, I know some American lefties whose attitudes are pretty close to that. Do you remember when I complained about a certain Facebook friend (and former IRL colleague) who said the free market will always be immoral, so long as people think junk-food snacks taste better than healthy veggies?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Aresen » 04 Sep 2017, 14:45

Jennifer wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 14:25
Do you remember when I complained about a certain Facebook friend (and former IRL colleague) who said the free market will always be immoral, so long as people think junk-food snacks taste better than healthy veggies?
I don't remember the comment, but I am sure as hell glad I am not one of her kids.
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Post by Jennifer » 04 Sep 2017, 14:54

Aresen wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 14:45
Jennifer wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 14:25
Do you remember when I complained about a certain Facebook friend (and former IRL colleague) who said the free market will always be immoral, so long as people think junk-food snacks taste better than healthy veggies?
I don't remember the comment, but I am sure as hell glad I am not one of her kids.
"His" kids. Though for what it's worth, he does not REMOTELY live up to the standards he seems to want the government to hold everyone else up to, for our own good--this is the ex-goat-farming Walmart employee who always complains about how broke he is, yet spends more money on restaurant visits and similar petty luxuries than Jeff and I do (or did even when we were both gainfully employed).

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Post by Aresen » 04 Sep 2017, 15:15

It may be just the ones I have come across, but male foodies seem more neurotic than female ones.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jennifer » 04 Sep 2017, 15:24

Aresen wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 15:15
It may be just the ones I have come across, but male foodies seem more neurotic than female ones.
The weird thing is that, based on the restaurants he goes to (which I know about because he used to go through a "post photos of food" phase), I don't think he IS a "foodie." And definitely has never considered that if the regime he thinks he wants actually were put into place, his own lifestyle and choices would be severely curtailed.

This is the guy who: is utterly opposed to Trump (as am I), was appalled by Trump's playing footsie with literal Klansmen and Nazis (ditto), and yet--thinks it would be a good idea to "solve" the Nazi problem by outlawing "hate speech." Because surely, President Trump and AG Jeff "I used to like the Klan until I heard they smoked pot, heh heh heh" Sessions would NEVER misuse such a power to go after their political opponents while leaving their supporters alone, right?

Also the guy who complained about how miserable it is, trying to sleep in North Carolina summertime when you don't have air conditioning, then a couple weeks later made the drive to Chicago to attend a "World Socialism Conference" -- as opposed to, say, using that money to buy a window-unit air conditioner.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Aresen » 04 Sep 2017, 15:57

Jennifer wrote:
04 Sep 2017, 15:24
Also the guy who complained about how miserable it is, trying to sleep in North Carolina summertime when you don't have air conditioning, then a couple weeks later made the drive to Chicago to attend a "World Socialism Conference" -- as opposed to, say, using that money to buy a window-unit air conditioner.
I hope you asked him why he didn't take Amtrak instead.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

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Slip inside a sleeping bag.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jasper » 08 Sep 2017, 11:59

One could argue that's good journalism by AHJ, no?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by lunchstealer » 08 Sep 2017, 18:03

The thornberry thing is clearly op-idiocy.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 09 Sep 2017, 10:43

lunchstealer wrote:
08 Sep 2017, 18:03
The thornberry thing is clearly op-idiocy.
I'm not following.
107th H.R. 1158 is accurately tweeted. Thornberry sponsored it. It was introduced in March 2001. And it was to establish a NHSA.
Where's the op-idiocy?
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 09 Sep 2017, 11:45

Thornberry's op-ed


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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by nicole » 18 Sep 2017, 12:18

laugh/cry

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dhex » 18 Sep 2017, 12:33

wait, what
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Post by nicole » 18 Sep 2017, 12:41

pivot to video
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by dhex » 18 Sep 2017, 12:58

ahhhhhhhh
"If they make a movie about Bothans pre-ROTJ that is basically a rip off of the Taking of Pelham 123, I would start masturbating in the theater." fffffffunnnngh

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