When journalism goes bad

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by thoreau » 30 Apr 2018, 18:11

I do wish she had not criticized Sanders' appearance. I don't care at all about Sanders' feelings, but making this about appearance just raises a bunch of other issues that distract from what this should be about. It forces a lot of decent people to pause and be all "Wait, why am I laughing at a joke about how a female professional looks?" (Those who aren't decent will, of course, laugh without any self-reflection.) And the last thing I want is to have to pause and feel some sympathy for Trump's mouthpiece. I don't ever want to have to go there.

EDIT: When I heard her joke I was doing other things, so I missed the context for the smoky eye joke.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jennifer » 30 Apr 2018, 18:38

thoreau wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 18:11
I do wish she had not criticized Sanders' appearance.
She didn't; she criticized Sanders' mendacity. I'm too lazy to look up the exact words, but it was something like "You burn the truth and use the ashes to make your smokey eye" -- smokey eye being a reference to eye makeup, not the eyes themselves.

And I took the Aunt Lydia comment not as a dig on her appearance, but as a reference to her being a woman who carries water for a woman-hating regime.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Jennifer » 30 Apr 2018, 18:40

Building on my last post: you know how football players put lines of that black stuff under their eyes to cut glare? What Wolf said was basically the equivalent of telling a dishonest football player "You burn the truth and use the ashes to make that anti-glare stuff." That's not a dig on the football player's appearance.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 30 Apr 2018, 19:22

thoreau wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 18:11
I do wish she had not criticized Sanders' appearance. I don't care at all about Sanders' feelings, but making this about appearance just raises a bunch of other issues that distract from what this should be about. It forces a lot of decent people to pause and be all "Wait, why am I laughing at a joke about how a female professional looks?" (Those who aren't decent will, of course, laugh without any self-reflection.) And the last thing I want is to have to pause and feel some sympathy for Trump's mouthpiece. I don't ever want to have to go there.
I am not seeing how you or anyone think she was making a jab at her appearance.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by thoreau » 30 Apr 2018, 19:24

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 19:22
thoreau wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 18:11
I do wish she had not criticized Sanders' appearance. I don't care at all about Sanders' feelings, but making this about appearance just raises a bunch of other issues that distract from what this should be about. It forces a lot of decent people to pause and be all "Wait, why am I laughing at a joke about how a female professional looks?" (Those who aren't decent will, of course, laugh without any self-reflection.) And the last thing I want is to have to pause and feel some sympathy for Trump's mouthpiece. I don't ever want to have to go there.
I am not seeing how you or anyone think she was making a jab at her appearance.
Because when I listened to it I was doing other stuff at the time, so I missed a lot of context.

I will edit my previous post.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 30 Apr 2018, 23:10

his voice is so soothing, but why do conspiracy nuts always sound like Batman and Robin solving one of Riddler's puzzles out loud? - fod

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Warren » 01 May 2018, 10:29

Mo wrote:
30 Apr 2018, 23:10
You be you NY Post.

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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Mo » 09 May 2018, 14:11

Bari Weiss is an idiot. We never hear the sorts of things that folks Peter Theil, Jordan Peterson, Christina Hoff Summers or Ben Shapiro in the august pages of places like the NY Times.
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Re: When journalism goes bad

Post by Painboy » 21 May 2018, 22:41

@JasonL You thought you had bad hips because of genetics? Turns out it was because you lived in Shively for too long.

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