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I suspect the sunk cost fallacy kicks in against that, because they just remodeled the exhibition room that the Mona Lisa sits in a few years ago. (As shown off in the video for "Apeshit", which is also the way I'd like to visit an art museum, aside from all the clothing changes...)
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Jadagul wrote:
07 Nov 2019, 18:56
I'm glad I saw the Mona Lisa. I don't remember it being especially crowded. It didn't blow me away from what I remember, but it's also hard to come to it in any vaguely neutral way.

It can be very good and still feel extremely overhyped.
Yes. The irony is that the same area of the Louvre has 7 of the 12 known Da Vinci paintings and hardly anyone takes the time to look at them. (Not to mention the numerous other paintings by Italian Renaissance Masters nearby.)
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It was kinda crowded in that part of the room so I glimpsed it from afar to bucket list it and moved on because there was a lot of cool shit that wasn't getting fangirled.

Still preferred the Orsay and the British Museum because the Brits were very good at stealing stuff that was interesting rather than just pretty.
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lunchstealer wrote:
07 Nov 2019, 22:03
It was kinda crowded in that part of the room so I glimpsed it from afar to bucket list it and moved on because there was a lot of cool shit that wasn't getting fangirled.

Still preferred the Orsay and the British Museum because the Brits were very good at stealing stuff that was interesting rather than just pretty.
The Germans were pretty good at stealing stuff too, but a lot of it got destroyed when we bombed the piss out of Berlin.
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An Iraqi street artist is putting up cuneiform protest graffiti.

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Guernica is the "important" work of art that I've seen that, if anything, is underrated seeing in person. The sheer scale of it is something that you only take in in person.
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Mo wrote:
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Guernica is the "important" work of art that I've seen that, if anything, is underrated seeing in person. The sheer scale of it is something that you only take in in person.
La Grande Jatte nearly brought me to tears for this same reason.
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Hugh Akston wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 11:57
Mo wrote:
08 Nov 2019, 05:14
Guernica is the "important" work of art that I've seen that, if anything, is underrated seeing in person. The sheer scale of it is something that you only take in in person.
La Grande Jatte nearly brought me to tears for this same reason.
That makes much more sense to me. At least you know what your looking at. And the pointillism messes with your mind. You instinctively want to get closer to see more detail. But the closer you are the less coherent the image, and the farther you back away the more it comes together. It's never in clear sharp focus, but it is a large substantial work and I wondered about how the artist could have achieved it working close to the canvas.
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The Prado in Madrid may have the highest percentage of works of art I've felt seeing in person was vastly more impressive. Their collection of Bosch, El Greco, Rubens, Titian and Diego Velázquez are all exquisite.

That said, where one grew up and how much one was exposed to art gallery masterpieces growing up probably makes a big difference in what it takes to be impressed. The art at the Uffizi, Academia, the Louvre and the British Museum is all wonderful, but if you grew up with the National Gallery down the street or with ready access to NYC art galleries, they're not so overwhelming.

Sometimes, too, seeing a painting is disappointing because, for example, it's so much smaller than you imagined. I love Hopper, but seeing "Nighthawks" at the Art Institute in Chicago was a bummer. It's much smaller than I imagined and I somehow couldn't quite get over the fact.

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Admittedly it wasn't around the corner but I've been to pretty much all the old-school Mall museums, including the Hirshorn, National Gallery, Museum of Natural History and Museum of American History, (and the Air and Space, natch) so the Louvre wasn't overwhelming (although partly because I'd also just been to London's National Gallery so I was starting to burn out on paintings, but still the Orsay came after all of those and I did find it very impressive, and despite the British Museum coming last out of all of those, I still found it to be the most impressive of all. Well except Air and Space, but I'm a space heroes guy.
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Lady with the Ermine is pretty impressive.
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A really intense essay on survivor's guilt: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/11/maga ... teran.html
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DAR beat me to it, but the Prado is amazing.

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About an algorithm for color correcting ocean photography:

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An article about the Park Slope Food Co-op, one of the oldest and largest food co-ops in the United States: https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2019 ... s-politics

It's kind of telling that even the New Yorker doesn't make it sound terribly appealing. I've been tempted to join on a few occasions (I feel like I don't live quite close enough for it to really be worthwhile) but even the relatively friendly New Yorker coverage makes the politics and personalities involved sound off-putting. And it does sound like most of the people there are reasonable and not especially political, but as with anywhere, the political culture tends to be driven by those with the biggest mouths and highest tolerance for arguing.
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A rather scary article about anti-semitism in the left wing of American politics, by a man who identifies as a gay, liberal, environmentalist Jew and yet finds himself labeled the enemy by parts of the left because he won't condemn the very existence of Israel.
https://www.nytimes.com/2019/11/14/opin ... itism.html

It sounds almost too bias-confirming to be true, and we know that there have been bias-confirming articles before that turned out not to be true, but some of what he describes definitely comports with some of what I've seen in leftist politics, where "concern with human rights in the Middle East" never seems to go beyond condemning Israel.
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One of the main reasons I avoid talking about Israel is you never know if you're going to meet an AIPAC types who call any criticism of Israel 'anti-semitic' or one of the ultra 'Pro Palestine' factions on the left for whom the existence of Israel is an affront. (When the latter get talking about 'Jewish influence', they are indistinguishable from the Aryan Nation.)
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Yeah, the Bari Weiss long talk on anti semitism was hard for me to get through. I think she is right in some regards, but also claims about the uniqueness of suffering of her tribe makes her sound exactly like anti racism fundamentalists like Coates. I don't trust and have little interest in picking sides in a world view so narrowly tailored as "everything that happens everywhere has a connection to my unique suffering". I get zionists who defend the existence of Isarael but who condemn expansion and settlements on the west bank. I don't get those who defend such actions as necessarily connected to the existential question or who defend them as legitimate for other reasons. I get that there is a tendency on the left to view Israel as colonialism without viewing with any degree of criticism the natures of the surrounding states.

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Aresen wrote:
19 Nov 2019, 11:57
One of the main reasons I avoid talking about Israel is you never know if you're going to meet an AIPAC types who call any criticism of Israel 'anti-semitic' or one of the ultra 'Pro Palestine' factions on the left for whom the existence of Israel is an affront. (When the latter get talking about 'Jewish influence', they are indistinguishable from the Aryan Nation.)
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JD wrote:
19 Nov 2019, 11:28
It sounds almost too bias-confirming to be true, and we know that there have been bias-confirming articles before that turned out not to be true, but some of what he describes definitely comports with some of what I've seen in leftist politics, where "concern with human rights in the Middle East" never seems to go beyond condemning Israel.
Sometimes it's not bias, it's just confirmation:



Whole thread, including with downright blatant anti-semitic trolling in the replies. ("Where does one by kosher food? My guess is from Israeli producers and exporters. Decision makes perfect sense, you just don't like it.")
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Melissa Benoist comes forward as a survivor of domestic abuse and reads her story.

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Via TIO's twitter feed, this New Yorker piece about a spy turned cop is very good, and probably should be stapled to a lot of police chiefs' and sheriffs' foreheads.

https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2018 ... -came-home

He touches on so many things I've been thinking about since starting to read Balko back in his Agitator days.
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A paper on the history of Blue Cross/Blue Shield and health coverage in general in the US: https://advocacy.consumerreports.org/wp ... lation.pdf
No author is listed, unfortunately. The filename implies something about "yourhealthdollar.org", but that domain is no longer active.

The paper seems reasonably fair and evenhanded, but I do detect a certain recurring theme of "The BCBSes were perfect and efficient and totally free of that icky profit motive and everybody loved them. But there were calls for more state involvement and regulation, because there were still gaps!" rinse & repeat. And contrary to the leftist implication that once upon a time, healthcare existed in some kind of Edenic garden before the snake of for-profit healthcare showed up, people have been complaining about healthcare costs for about a hundred years.
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