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Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 07 May 2018, 11:50
by Highway
Warren wrote:
07 May 2018, 11:45
Highway wrote:
07 May 2018, 11:35
As we were discussing the height limits in DC the other day, there's an article today on CityLab defending the height limit as a driver of creativity in design.
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I fixed the original as well.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 07 May 2018, 12:34
by Warren
Yeah I don't know. I'm very The Fountainhead in my architectural views in that I'm a firm believer that form should follow function. A height limit might drive creative style, but that doesn't mean the city wouldn't be better off with bigger, less creative buildings.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 07 May 2018, 12:58
by Painboy
Highway wrote:
07 May 2018, 11:35
As we were discussing the height limits in DC the other day, there's an article today on CityLab defending the height limit as a driver of creativity in design.
Arguments like that always bring to mind villain speeches when they tell the hero that whatever horrible thing the villain did to them the result made them a better person. So the hero should actually be thankful for the villain's actions.

"I made you!"

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 07 May 2018, 15:45
by Eric the .5b
Eh, constraints inspiring creativity are a real thing. See every formal poetic form.

It's just not a good excuse for a law or regulation.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 07 May 2018, 15:53
by Aresen
Painboy wrote:
07 May 2018, 12:58
Highway wrote:
07 May 2018, 11:35
As we were discussing the height limits in DC the other day, there's an article today on CityLab defending the height limit as a driver of creativity in design.
Arguments like that always bring to mind villain speeches when they tell the hero that whatever horrible thing the villain did to them the result made them a better person. So the hero should actually be thankful for the villain's actions.

"I made you!"
Without Josef Stalin, we never would have had Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 12:26
by JD
SCIENCE HAS CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN THAT TWO SPACES AFTER A PERIOD ARE SUPERIOR TO ONE. The wretched one-spacers will be ground into the dust and the two-spacers shall inherit the earth as God himself intended!

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 12:38
by Mo
Only for douchebags that use monospaced fonts in 2018.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 13:06
by JD
Keep telling yourself that as SCIENCE proves you wrong.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 13:33
by lunchstealer
I have reached the conclusion that the space wars are the equivalent of the toilet paper wars. To have an opinion beyond, "in certain circumstances, I prefer [n spaces or x toilet roll orientation] but humans have opposable thumbs and can overcome this difficulty,' is to demonstrate one's degeneracy and prove Devo right.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 13:36
by JD
lunchstealer wrote:
15 May 2018, 13:33
...and prove Devo right.
What, about having a gut feeling?

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 13:47
by Aresen
I was taught the two space rule and prefer it.

Whatever.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 14:29
by lunchstealer
JD wrote:
15 May 2018, 13:36
lunchstealer wrote:
15 May 2018, 13:33
...and prove Devo right.
What, about having a gut feeling?

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 14:56
by D.A. Ridgely
JD wrote:
15 May 2018, 12:26
SCIENCE HAS CONCLUSIVELY PROVEN THAT TWO SPACES AFTER A PERIOD ARE SUPERIOR TO ONE. The wretched one-spacers will be ground into the dust and the two-spacers shall inherit the earth as God himself intended!
Hear! Hear!

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 15 May 2018, 18:07
by Jadagul
lunchstealer wrote:
15 May 2018, 13:33
I have reached the conclusion that the space wars are the equivalent of the toilet paper wars. To have an opinion beyond, "in certain circumstances, I prefer [n spaces or x toilet roll orientation] but humans have opposable thumbs and can overcome this difficulty,' is to demonstrate one's degeneracy and prove Devo right.
The actual answer is that WYSIWYG word processing is terrible.

I type two spaces after a period, to signal that I'm ending a sentence. Then my document compiler takes that information into account when it decides the correct amount of spacing to put there.

Hell, that's happening right now. There were five spaces before this sentence. But you can't see them, because HTML is not WYSIWYG and render spaces intelligently.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 11:28
by Painboy
I can honestly say I was completely unaware there were different opinions on how many spaces after a period.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 11:51
by JasonL
Painboy wrote:I can honestly say I was completely unaware there were different opinions on how many spaces after a period.
Oh man it’s like rule 34 but with arguments.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 12:12
by lunchstealer
In the beginning was the Word. Then came the fucking word processor.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 15:22
by Jadagul
lunchstealer wrote:
16 May 2018, 12:12
In the beginning was the Word. Then came the fucking word processor.
In the beginning was the command line.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 15:27
by Fin Fang Foom

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 16:33
by lunchstealer
Jadagul wrote:
16 May 2018, 15:22
lunchstealer wrote:
16 May 2018, 12:12
In the beginning was the Word. Then came the fucking word processor.
In the beginning was the command line.
In the beginning Turing created the Machine.

And the Machine was crufty and bogacious, existing in theory only. And von Neumann looked upon the Machine, and saw that it was crufty. He divided the Machine into two Abstractions, the Data and the Code, and yet the two were one Architecture. This is a great Mystery, and the beginning of wisdom.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 18:44
by Eric the .5b
lunchstealer wrote:
16 May 2018, 12:12
In the beginning was the Word. Then came the fucking word processor.
Hey, I'll cheerfully take a thought processor.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 18:46
by Eric the .5b
Jadagul wrote:
15 May 2018, 18:07
The actual answer is that WYSIWYG word processing is terrible.

I type two spaces after a period, to signal that I'm ending a sentence. Then my document compiler takes that information into account when it decides the correct amount of spacing to put there.

Hell, that's happening right now. There were five spaces before this sentence. But you can't see them, because HTML is not WYSIWYG and render spaces intelligently.
This is the correct answer. I'm not kerning or handling the line-endings for the text in these sentences, either!

I write technical documents in org-mode. If someone wants MS Word, I export to it and tidy it up. (In my experience, a PDF goes over just fine, though. 99% of a time someone sends an Excel or MS Word file, it's better as a PDF anyway...) But then, I've never actually had anyone in an academic or professional context actually complain about two spaces after a sentence, even when they could see it. It's always been randos on the internet who cared.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 19:19
by lunchstealer
Eric the .5b wrote:
16 May 2018, 18:46
Jadagul wrote:
15 May 2018, 18:07
The actual answer is that WYSIWYG word processing is terrible.

I type two spaces after a period, to signal that I'm ending a sentence. Then my document compiler takes that information into account when it decides the correct amount of spacing to put there.

Hell, that's happening right now. There were five spaces before this sentence. But you can't see them, because HTML is not WYSIWYG and render spaces intelligently.
This is the correct answer. I'm not kerning or handling the line-endings for the text in these sentences, either!

I write technical documents in org-mode. If someone wants MS Word, I export to it and tidy it up. (In my experience, a PDF goes over just fine, though. 99% of a time someone sends an Excel or MS Word file, it's better as a PDF anyway...) But then, I've never actually had anyone in an academic or professional context actually complain about two spaces after a sentence, even when they could see it. It's always been randos on the internet who cared.
I'm surprised that I didn't get that kind of bullshit from the graduate dean, who rejected my thesis because I used Times New Roman instead of Courier. But it's possible I just had guessed right about which was the correct number of spaces in her crazed style manual.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 16 May 2018, 20:16
by Aresen
lunchstealer wrote:
16 May 2018, 19:19
I'm surprised that I didn't get that kind of bullshit from the graduate dean, who rejected my thesis because I used Times New Roman instead of Courier.
WTF?

I hope you resubmitted in Viking Gothic.

Re: Worthwhile intertubez finds

Posted: 17 May 2018, 07:35
by Pham Nuwen
So the two spaces after a period has reached open war? I think the world is running out of things to argue about these days. What is this timeline we inhabit?