Revealed preferences time

If a COVID-19 vaccine comes out, when would you take it (assume covered by insurance and available)?

Day 1
6
35%
After a month
6
35%
After 6 months
3
18%
After a year
1
6%
After 2 years
0
No votes
Longer
0
No votes
Only if required
0
No votes
I wouldn’t even if required
1
6%
 
Total votes: 17

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I think our regulatory system for drugs is messed up, but I wouldn’t take the vaccine for at least a year or two after it came out because I’m worried about the slapdash regulatory process around it. Though admittedly, the fact that I had it before colors this. I am, however, concerned about it being required for my kids on day 1.
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I'm all for as soon as possible, but I definitely have concerns about the level of care that's going into testing and certification of any vaccine. I think so much of the confidence is going to come from the reputation of the group making it, and supporting information about the testing processes.
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I'm waiting a few months. 3 min/max. Should see the immediate effects on some people who are going to not tolerate it well. Should give you an idea of long term risk.

Luckily the EU is going to try that stuff out first.
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The other thing I would note is that a lot is dependent on my risk profile. If I was DAR/RSN’s age I would move much closer to day 1. If I was 25 and healthy, I would wait a couple years. Things like working in a hospital (I.e. Pham) would also change my calculus
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I'm debating trying to sign up for the trial GW is running.
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No way I'm letting them put that shit in me.
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Day 1. If you can't trust Big Pharma, who can you trust?
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...Isn't this literally declaring preferences?

I have no idea. Not first day, and I'd be following the news closely.
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I'm a procrastinator, especially when it comes to non-critical medical matters. Plus I'm pretty sure I've already had the virus. So I would probably only get it if it were required to see a movie or a concert.

Also this thread should be called "Stated preferences time".
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Day one. TBF, I'm a first responder who doesn't want to infect his family.
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Just don't cancel me for choosing the wrong preference!
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I'd like to sign up for clinical trial. An experiment gone horribly wrong is my best shot at supervillain powers.
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My GF and my boss are both vulnerable, so I'd get it after one month, just to make sure there weren't any Day 0 bugs.
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Dangerman wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 15:57 My GF and my boss are both vulnerable, so I'd get it after one month, just to make sure there weren't any Day 0 bugs.
Team Dangerman. If the vaccinated aren't dropping like flies within the first 30 days, I'll accept it as sufficiently safe. I can keep up the present levels of precautions for that bit of extra time.

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thoreau wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 14:43 I'd like to sign up for clinical trial. An experiment gone horribly wrong is my best shot at supervillain powers.
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Aresen wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 16:50
thoreau wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 14:43 I'd like to sign up for clinical trial. An experiment gone horribly wrong is my best shot at supervillain powers.
If there are mutant powers available, Team Thoreau. I want the ability to vaporize politicians tracelessly.
I just want to smash observatories.
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Relatively few people are gonna get to be vaccinated within the first thirty days anyway, probably.

I think they're trying to preemptively scale production up, but there are still limits.
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Jadagul wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 17:19 Relatively few people are gonna get to be vaccinated within the first thirty days anyway, probably.
Not counting, assuming they want to be vaccinated, politicians and their families, the wealthy and their families, celebrities and their families and, oh yeah, maybe first responders (but not their families) as well.
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D.A. Ridgely wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 18:04
Jadagul wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 17:19 Relatively few people are gonna get to be vaccinated within the first thirty days anyway, probably.
Not counting, assuming they want to be vaccinated, politicians and their families, the wealthy and their families, celebrities and their families and, oh yeah, maybe first responders (but not their families) as well.
Those are relatively few people!
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There's no way that ER staff and paramedics will get vaccinated before politicians, celebrities, and other rich people. OK, maybe the paramedics who serve Martha's Vineyard and whatnot, but there's no fucking way an ordinary ER nurse is getting dibs on vaccinations.
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I'd be expecting something on the order of 10-20m vaccines in the first month? Which is way more than just "rich people and celebrities", but way less than everyone who wants one.

But I only have a vague sense for those numbers, and a lot of details matter.
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As soon at it's convenient for me and I'm not bumping someone else who has a greater need for it. That should also be after a enough time has gone by that they are fairly confident there are no serious side effects.
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I've never bought the Version 1.0 of any technology, preferring to wait for later models after the initial bugs have been worked out. (Granted, that's also in part because Version 1.0 of any tech is always considerably more expensive than later "established technology" versions, which I doubt will be the case with a vaccine.) Still, unless for some reason I absolutely HAD to suddenly start going out in dense crowds again, or start working in a hospital or similar setting, I'd rather not get the vaccine right away even if it were immediately available to me; I'll wait until a few rounds of other people went first, without problems.

ETA: Plus what Painboy said.
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Hugh Akston wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 14:18 I'm a procrastinator, especially when it comes to non-critical medical matters. Plus I'm pretty sure I've already had the virus. So I would probably only get it if it were required to see a movie or a concert.

Also this thread should be called "Stated preferences time".
Well the underlying preference it shows is regarding drug approvals and if you think an accelerated process is worth about the same as the normal one.
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Jennifer wrote: 08 Aug 2020, 18:46 I've never bought the Version 1.0 of any technology, preferring to wait for later models after the initial bugs have been worked out. (Granted, that's also in part because Version 1.0 of any tech is always considerably more expensive than later "established technology" versions, which I doubt will be the case with a vaccine.) Still, unless for some reason I absolutely HAD to suddenly start going out in dense crowds again, or start working in a hospital or similar setting, I'd rather not get the vaccine right away even if it were immediately available to me; I'll wait until a few rounds of other people went first, without problems.
That's a very good point. One thing that is not at all clear to me is whether there is just going to be one vaccine or many. The news reports seem to indicate that just about every country/company is working on its own vaccine. I don't know if the information is being shared or if the work is at all collaborative.

[A choice of vaccines would probably be a good thing.]
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There are six distinct vaccines currently in Phase III trials. And like a few dozen more in earlier stages in the pipeline.
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