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Post by Taktix® » 13 Jun 2019, 21:10

I mean, if Rand Paul gets his own thread...

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Post by dhex » 13 Jun 2019, 21:40

That was genuinely good Twitter.
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Post by Hugh Akston » 13 Jun 2019, 22:29

Can you imagine having to respond to Donald Trump Jr? Even Donald Trump Sr doesn't stoop that low.
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Post by Aresen » 13 Jun 2019, 23:45

I would not be surprised if Amash lost the primary. If he does, the Michigan 3rd District is going to be (D).
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Post by Warren » 14 Jun 2019, 11:19

Aresen wrote:
13 Jun 2019, 23:45
I would not be surprised if Amash lost the primary. If he does, the Michigan 3rd District is going to be (D).
Not a chance. West MI is deeply wedded to the GOP they will vote R no matter what name follows it.
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Post by Taktix® » 14 Jun 2019, 11:55

Aresen wrote:
13 Jun 2019, 23:45
I would not be surprised if Amash lost the primary. If he does, the Michigan 3rd District is going to be (D).
I think Amash is better positioned to survive being primaried by a Trumpista than other non-left Trump critics, because Michigan is an open primary...
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Post by dead_elvis » 14 Jun 2019, 12:26

Warren wrote:
14 Jun 2019, 11:19
Aresen wrote:
13 Jun 2019, 23:45
I would not be surprised if Amash lost the primary. If he does, the Michigan 3rd District is going to be (D).
Not a chance. West MI is deeply wedded to the GOP they will vote R no matter what name follows it.
This is the place that gave us Jerry Ford after all.

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(and yeah i used to work some in Grand Rapids when I was in Michigan and this is true)
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Post by Warren » 14 Jun 2019, 12:33

I don't think DTJr is going to primary Amash himself, and would be better off staying out of MI altogether.
reason wrote:In a June 5-9 Practical Political Consulting (PPC) and MIRS survey of just 360 likely GOP voters announced Tuesday (though not yet available online), Lower thumped Amash in a head-to-head matchup, 49 percent to 33 percent. According to MIRS News, the poll also found that if President Donald Trump campaigned in the district for Lower, "the challenger's margin actually goes down 43 [percent] to 32 [percent]."
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Post by Kolohe » 14 Jun 2019, 12:41

This is a good thread title.
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Post by Mo » 15 Jun 2019, 09:05

Feels like genuine principle guy. There’s nothing to gain from this.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 17 Jun 2019, 14:47

Really, so far I like Amash better than I like both Pauls put together, but that also speaks to how little I think of those grifters, anymore.
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Post by thoreau » 17 Jun 2019, 15:00

Eric the .5b wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 14:47
Really, so far I like Amash better than I like both Pauls put together, but that also speaks to how little I think of those grifters, anymore.
+1

But, given time, I'm sure he'll make us regret this.
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Post by Jennifer » 17 Jun 2019, 17:05

I'd like Amash a lot more if his principles didn't include "The second a woman (or barely pubescent girl) catches pregnant, her body ceases to be her own, and forcing her to carry that pregnancy to term is a totes legitimate use of state power."
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Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Jun 2019, 04:03

Jennifer wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 17:05
I'd like Amash a lot more if his principles didn't include "The second a woman (or barely pubescent girl) catches pregnant, her body ceases to be her own, and forcing her to carry that pregnancy to term is a totes legitimate use of state power."
That's not an area where the Pauls (or Flake) have shined any better.

The Teams' aggressive branding on abortion is probably a big part of the problem (nearly 30% of Team Red voters support abortion on demand while 40% of Team Blue voters oppose it in every case, but it's always marketed as a straight party divide). However, it's always striking that no matter how iconoclastic a Red politician is supposed to be, they're never pro-choice.
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Post by Jasper » 18 Jun 2019, 10:27

thoreau wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 15:00
Eric the .5b wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 14:47
Really, so far I like Amash better than I like both Pauls put together, but that also speaks to how little I think of those grifters, anymore.
+1

But, given time, I'm sure he'll make us regret this.
I'll sign up for the newsletter as well. I just hope Lew Rockwell isn't writing it.
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Post by Aresen » 18 Jun 2019, 11:02

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 04:03
Jennifer wrote:
17 Jun 2019, 17:05
I'd like Amash a lot more if his principles didn't include "The second a woman (or barely pubescent girl) catches pregnant, her body ceases to be her own, and forcing her to carry that pregnancy to term is a totes legitimate use of state power."
That's not an area where the Pauls (or Flake) have shined any better.

The Teams' aggressive branding on abortion is probably a big part of the problem (nearly 30% of Team Red voters support abortion on demand while 40% of Team Blue voters oppose it in every case, but it's always marketed as a straight party divide). However, it's always striking that no matter how iconoclastic a Red politician is supposed to be, they're never pro-choice.
I'm guessing that's because a pro-choice Red would never survive the primary. The anti-abortionists are very much SIVs and also have a higher tendency to turn out to vote, especially in primaries.
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Post by Warren » 18 Jun 2019, 11:08

Much like the Pauls, however much I don't like the things I don't like about him, on the whole I like him more than I dislike him and that makes him unique in the House.
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Post by Aresen » 18 Jun 2019, 11:18

Warren wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 11:08
Much like the Pauls, however much I don't like the things I don't like about him, on the whole I like him more than I dislike him and that makes him unique in the House.
Pretty much this. If we are going to apply a 'Libertarian Purity Test' to every single politician who says something we like, then we get absolutely nothing. ("Representative X supports Criminal Justice Reform? Fuck him, he also opposes legalizing marijuana." "Representative Y supports reducing tariffs? Fuck her, she supports more military spending.")
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Post by Eric the .5b » 18 Jun 2019, 17:16

Aresen wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 11:18
Warren wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 11:08
Much like the Pauls, however much I don't like the things I don't like about him, on the whole I like him more than I dislike him and that makes him unique in the House.
Pretty much this. If we are going to apply a 'Libertarian Purity Test' to every single politician who says something we like, then we get absolutely nothing. ("Representative X supports Criminal Justice Reform? Fuck him, he also opposes legalizing marijuana." "Representative Y supports reducing tariffs? Fuck her, she supports more military spending.")
I'd generally agree, and like I said, Amash seems much better than the Pauls, but abortion is kind of a major issue right now. He's not just holding an un-libertarian stance, but advancing one in a political situation where that is likely to win out and cause serious, lasting harm.

After all, he's a politician. It's not like I have to net approve of him.
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Post by Warren » 18 Jun 2019, 20:10

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 17:16
...abortion is kind of a major issue right now. He's not just holding an un-libertarian stance...
Pro-life is not un-libertarian.
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Post by dead_elvis » 18 Jun 2019, 20:15

Depends who you ask.
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Post by thoreau » 18 Jun 2019, 20:17

dead_elvis wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 20:15
Depends who you ask.
*Ahem*

It depends upon whom you ask.

Also, it should go without saying that all right-minded people agree that sriracha is a superb condiment.
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Post by dhex » 18 Jun 2019, 20:28

But yo Sriracha mixed with mayonnaise is fucking dope.
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Re: A*M*A*S*H

Post by Jennifer » 18 Jun 2019, 20:29

Eric the .5b wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 17:16
Aresen wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 11:18
Warren wrote:
18 Jun 2019, 11:08
Much like the Pauls, however much I don't like the things I don't like about him, on the whole I like him more than I dislike him and that makes him unique in the House.
Pretty much this. If we are going to apply a 'Libertarian Purity Test' to every single politician who says something we like, then we get absolutely nothing. ("Representative X supports Criminal Justice Reform? Fuck him, he also opposes legalizing marijuana." "Representative Y supports reducing tariffs? Fuck her, she supports more military spending.")
I'd generally agree, and like I said, Amash seems much better than the Pauls, but abortion is kind of a major issue right now.
Quite understandably so, IMO, from the perspective of women whose lives/career plans would be personally destroyed if they were forced by law to bear a child they didn't want and couldn't afford. [And even more monstrous when the bans go so far as to outlaw it even for rape victims, when the mother's life is at stake, when the fetus is completely unviable, and similar things. And when the laws would essentially treat all miscarriages as potential crimes to be investigated.] Just as the war on drugs harms lots of innocent people, not just illegal-drug buyers, sellers and users, the harms caused by a war on abortion would NOT be limited to women seeking to get one.
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