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Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Taktix® » 15 Jan 2019, 14:47

Not a statement of support or opposition, just a perhaps premature prognostication.


Also someone at Al-Jazeera thinks so: https://www.aljazeera.com/amp/indepth/o ... ssion=true
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by thoreau » 15 Jan 2019, 14:58

You think the American people are ready to support a loud-mouthed New York populist who gets in Twitter feuds and proposes dumb economic policies?

Oh.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 15:03

thoreau wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:58
You think the American people are ready to support a loud-mouthed New York populist who gets in Twitter feuds and proposes dumb economic policies?

Oh.
If this one doesn't want to put children in cages, it's a step up, which is about the most we can ever hope for.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by JasonL » 15 Jan 2019, 15:05

She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.

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Post by Aresen » 15 Jan 2019, 15:10

JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't worry. The 'resistance' within her administration will restrain her reckless, impulsive behavior. :mrgreen:
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 15 Jan 2019, 16:37

Aresen wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:10
JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't worry. The 'resistance' within her administration will restrain her reckless, impulsive behavior. :mrgreen:
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Shem » 15 Jan 2019, 16:55

Taktix® wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:47
Not a statement of support or opposition, just a perhaps premature prognostication.
Considering she'll be 35 a week before the election, very premature.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Hugh Akston » 15 Jan 2019, 18:01

Shem wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 16:55
Taktix® wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:47
Not a statement of support or opposition, just a perhaps premature prognostication.
Considering she'll be 35 a week before the election, very premature.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Warren » 15 Jan 2019, 18:06

Hugh Akston wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:01
Shem wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 16:55
Taktix® wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:47
Not a statement of support or opposition, just a perhaps premature prognostication.
Considering she'll be 35 a week before the election, very premature.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 18:08

JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't you normally bitch about hyperbole?

I submit that she's not demonstrably worse than Trump by that strandard.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Hugh Akston » 15 Jan 2019, 18:14

I mostly stopped believing in the president will destroy the economy bugaboo after Obama didn't transform shit. Trump is doing his damndest to sink the ship and things are mostly still fine. Twitter game or no, there's a limit to what POTUS can accomplish with a do-nothing Congress.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 18:16

Team Hugh.

I mean, Hell, Obama started out with a Blue-dominated Congress, and he didn't exactly transform a lot before the midterms.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by thoreau » 15 Jan 2019, 18:38

Eric the .5b wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:16
Team Hugh.

I mean, Hell, Obama started out with a Blue-dominated Congress, and he didn't exactly transform a lot before the midterms.
And not just Blue-dominated. A filibuster-proof 60 Blue Senators for part of that time.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by JasonL » 15 Jan 2019, 18:39

Eric the .5b wrote:
JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't you normally bitch about hyperbole?

I submit that she's not demonstrably worse than Trump by that strandard.
Depends how seriously you take her spending desires on top of what we have now. Yes I agree if she gets nothing she wants she doesn’t matter. Same could be said for anyone of arbitrary awfulness. If she gets a fraction of what she wants we’ll blow through 200% debt to gdp like it’s nothing and keep going.

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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by JasonL » 15 Jan 2019, 18:40

ACA was non trivial.

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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Shem » 15 Jan 2019, 18:47

thoreau wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:38
Eric the .5b wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:16
Team Hugh.

I mean, Hell, Obama started out with a Blue-dominated Congress, and he didn't exactly transform a lot before the midterms.
And not just Blue-dominated. A filibuster-proof 60 Blue Senators for part of that time.
One of whom was Joe Lieberman. Just saying.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by thoreau » 15 Jan 2019, 18:49

Shem wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:47
thoreau wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:38
Eric the .5b wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:16
Team Hugh.

I mean, Hell, Obama started out with a Blue-dominated Congress, and he didn't exactly transform a lot before the midterms.
And not just Blue-dominated. A filibuster-proof 60 Blue Senators for part of that time.
One of whom was Joe Lieberman. Just saying.
OK, so 59 Blue Senators. Still, they would have needed all 41 Reds on board to maintain a filibuster.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Jennifer » 15 Jan 2019, 19:12

The fact that Republicans are so unreasonably, batshit insane about her makes me like her a bit in spite of myself. Among various bombshell revelations I've learned about her recently: there exists video of her dancing in college. (Wholesome dancing, not what I did to pay the bills.) She went by the nickname "Sandy." Also, she is 30 years old and has difficulty affording an apartment in the very expensive city of DC in addition to an apartment in the very expensive city of New York.

All of these facts are supposed to be horrifying, according to the Republicans.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 22:51

JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:39
Eric the .5b wrote:
JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't you normally bitch about hyperbole?

I submit that she's not demonstrably worse than Trump by that strandard.
Depends how seriously you take her spending desires on top of what we have now. Yes I agree if she gets nothing she wants she doesn’t matter. Same could be said for anyone of arbitrary awfulness. If she gets a fraction of what she wants we’ll blow through 200% debt to gdp like it’s nothing and keep going.
If she gets a sufficiently big fraction of what she wants, sure. This country would be wrecked if that were true of the current president, too.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 15 Jan 2019, 22:51

The Sandy thing, shouted as if it's revealing some dark secret, is maybe even more mystifying than the dancing thing.

She can spin up re-seeming outrage about the administration's worst policy. I can like her for that.
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Post by Warren » 15 Jan 2019, 22:57

JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:39
Eric the .5b wrote:
JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 15:05
She could lay waste to the economy if she means anything she says.
Don't you normally bitch about hyperbole?

I submit that she's not demonstrably worse than Trump by that strandard.
Depends how seriously you take her spending desires on top of what we have now. Yes I agree if she gets nothing she wants she doesn’t matter. Same could be said for anyone of arbitrary awfulness. If she gets a fraction of what she wants we’ll blow through 200% debt to gdp like it’s nothing and keep going.
And that's bad right? But it's okay if we blow through it gradually right? Japan blew threw it and they're still okay right? It's just a number. 100%, 200%, 10,000% doens't matter, we can keep on keeping on right? RIGHT???
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Taktix® » 16 Jan 2019, 01:01

Warren wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:06
Hugh Akston wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:01
Shem wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 16:55
Taktix® wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 14:47
Not a statement of support or opposition, just a perhaps premature prognostication.
Considering she'll be 35 a week before the election, very premature.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Mo » 16 Jan 2019, 04:46

Do we need one thread, let alone two on a backbencher freshman Congresscritter who isn't even a committee chair. She has a mean social media game and that's about it. FFS, Bernie isn't going to sniff the nomination and I don't think dressing up Bernie as a pretty young woman will do more than win an additional few votes.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Mo » 16 Jan 2019, 04:49

JasonL wrote:
15 Jan 2019, 18:40
ACA was non trivial.
The Democrats have been pushing for universal health care since the 1970s and ACA was the best they could get through their conference. This was a party white whale for my entire life and then some and they couldn't even get a public option (i.e. Medicaid/Medicare buy in on the exchange) through because of Joe Lieberman D-Aetna.
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Re: Calling 2024 for AOC

Post by Warren » 16 Jan 2019, 09:23

Mo wrote:
16 Jan 2019, 04:46
Do we need one thread, let alone two on a backbencher freshman Congresscritter who isn't even a committee chair.
Sure, why not?
She has a mean social media game and that's about it. FFS, Bernie isn't going to sniff the nomination and I don't think dressing up Bernie as a pretty young woman will do more than win an additional few votes.
Yeah I don't know about that. Which is to say I don't know what wins votes anymore. Perhaps I never did, but it seemed to make more sense pre Trump. More and more things I thought I understood aren't making sense to me. I'm really trying to figure out how much is "the world has lost its collective mind" and how much is early onset Alzheimer's. And what''s bothering me is, I can't. But I wouldn't underestimate the allure of Manic Pixie Pinko Girl.
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