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Mo wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 06:37
JasonL wrote:
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Observation - pew says 77% of PR residents think abortion should be illegal
How many think only 16 people died from the hurricane?
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Mo wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 08:26
I'll just leave this here.

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Jasper wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 08:18
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
I want fewer voters, not more. Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government. Or require that voters had to be born in the lower 48 and all parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were US citizens (tough luck for you, McCain and George Romney!). I'm willing to hear other creative ideas to rein in the rabble.
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Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:03
Jasper wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 08:18
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
I want fewer voters, not more. Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government. Or require that voters had to be born in the lower 48 and all parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were US citizens (tough luck for you, McCain and George Romney!). I'm willing to hear other creative ideas to rein in the rabble.
Landowners, like God intended. :D
Landowners who own at least one house free and clear of a mortgage, who can pass a civic literacy test and AP-level economics test, and who are not government employees or contractors.
With a STEM degree from a non Ivy school.
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But not squishy STEM right? Can't have econ types, psychologists sociologists etc and the like polluting the pure awesomeness of only people who try to follow electrons around the universe being having a say on the fates of their fellow man. Or space, it's probably okay to look at space too. But that's it. Can't call yourself qualifed to set policy and analyze tradeoffs if you aren't trying to follow electrons or looking at space. That's just logic.

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JasonL wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:25
But not squishy STEM right? Can't have econ types, psychologists sociologists etc and the like polluting the pure awesomeness of only people who try to follow electrons around the universe being having a say on the fates of their fellow man. Or space, it's probably okay to look at space too. But that's it. Can't call yourself qualifed to set policy and analyze tradeoffs if you aren't trying to follow electrons or looking at space. That's just logic.
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Warren wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:32
JasonL wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:25
But not squishy STEM right? Can't have econ types, psychologists sociologists etc and the like polluting the pure awesomeness of only people who try to follow electrons around the universe being having a say on the fates of their fellow man. Or space, it's probably okay to look at space too. But that's it. Can't call yourself qualifed to set policy and analyze tradeoffs if you aren't trying to follow electrons or looking at space. That's just logic.
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JasonL wrote:Or space, it's probably okay to look at space too.
Astronomy is chock full of SJWs.

The people best trained to counter blank slate science denialism are psychologists.
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Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government.
I assume this would include active-duty military?
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Shem wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 12:30
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government.
I assume this would include active-duty military?
Sure. I don't see why not. And any "no welfare" rule would certainly encompass most farmers and ranchers.
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Warren wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:07
Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:03
Jasper wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 08:18
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
I want fewer voters, not more. Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government. Or require that voters had to be born in the lower 48 and all parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were US citizens (tough luck for you, McCain and George Romney!). I'm willing to hear other creative ideas to rein in the rabble.
Landowners, like God intended. :D
Landowners who own at least one house free and clear of a mortgage, who can pass a civic literacy test and AP-level economics test, and who are not government employees or contractors.
With a STEM degree from a non Ivy school.
If they otherwise meet the criteria, I wouldn't care if they have a PhD from Harvard in Infecting Astronomy with More SJWs.
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In andrewtopia - 5 people get to vote.

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JasonL wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 14:30
In andrewtopia - 5 people get to vote.
That many?
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Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 14:24
If they otherwise meet the criteria, I wouldn't care if they have a PhD from Harvard in Infecting Astronomy with More SJWs.
OK, but can I put some Novichok on their paper ballot?
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Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
I want fewer voters, not more. Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government. Or require that voters had to be born in the lower 48 and all parents, grandparents, and great-grandparents were US citizens (tough luck for you, McCain and George Romney!). I'm willing to hear other creative ideas to rein in the rabble.
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Hm, 5736. Awkward. Well, I guess we're all going Jewish this year.
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Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 14:23
Shem wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 12:30
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government.
I assume this would include active-duty military?
Sure. I don't see why not. And any "no welfare" rule would certainly encompass most farmers and ranchers.
I’m down, but with a nod to Heinlein, all retired veterans get to vote.
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Solitudinarian wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 23:09
Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 14:23
Shem wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 12:30
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government.
I assume this would include active-duty military?
Sure. I don't see why not. And any "no welfare" rule would certainly encompass most farmers and ranchers.
I’m down, but with a nod to Heinlein, all retired veterans get to vote.
Unless they try to run for office.
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Aresen wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 01:06
Solitudinarian wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 23:09
Andrew wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 14:23
Shem wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 12:30
Andrew wrote:
25 Sep 2018, 21:08
Like maybe no votes for employees of any level of government.
I assume this would include active-duty military?
Sure. I don't see why not. And any "no welfare" rule would certainly encompass most farmers and ranchers.
I’m down, but with a nod to Heinlein, all retired veterans get to vote.
Unless they try to run for office.
Oh, they can run. They just can’t win.
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Well, let me know when y'all select the right group of voters who will finally fix everything.
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Eric the .5b wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 03:31
Well, let me know when y'all select the right group of voters who will finally fix everything.
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Eric the .5b wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 03:31
Well, let me know when y'all select the right group of voters who will finally fix everything.
You would not be in that group.
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Nothing has yet deterred me from the thought that a benign dictatorship is probably the best form of government, but it's not long-term stable or sustainable.
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Eric the .5b wrote:
27 Sep 2018, 03:31
Well, let me know when y'all select the right group of voters who will finally fix everything.
As long as the Ivy SJW astronomers are disenfranchised, I'm good.
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I think you just have to live with stuff guys. One way of looking at the current situation is this is the worst functioning government most people can remember and it still, in terms of the range of nightmare scenarios countries have endured, isn't all that bad. Further the awfulness does shed light on certain things. I suspect there is a lot to look at in terms of FISA abuse for political purposes. There are things to look at in terms of information warfare with Russia and China. If the price of paying attention to some of these things is trump, there are worse prices.

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