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Gentry from the block

Post by nicole » 02 May 2018, 16:24

A thread on gentrification
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by nicole » 02 May 2018, 16:25

Kind of a random one to start the thread with, but it seems to be coming up more, so...anyway.
AT A RECENT DISCUSSION at the CUNY Graduate Center with the writer Chris Kraus, the first question came from a protestor. Kraus was there to talk about After Kathy Acker, her excellent new biography of postmodern lit’s enfant terrible. But the question was not about the biography or Acker’s fiction or even Kraus’s own remarkable novels. Instead, the questioner asked why Semiotext(e), Kraus’s publisher — and at one point Acker’s — was hosting a reading with Kraus at the gallery 356 Mission in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles. Boyle Heights, a historically Latinx neighborhood, is currently engaged in a struggle against gentrification, taking on that seemingly naïve first wave of cultural pioneers: the artists, gallerists, and musicians who often head out to the frontier of what are often lower-income, nonwhite neighborhoods in search of urban grit, inspiration, and, most importantly, cheap rents. Why, the questioner asked, would Kraus and Semiotext(e) contribute to such gentrification? Semiotext(e), a long-standing publisher of radical continental leftist theory, politics, and fiction, would be directly contributing to gentrification.

After a brief impasse, the usual questions begin, with Kraus answering one on politics by pointing out that while Acker was no activist, her work held a subversive edge. Acker, Kraus explained, was political in terms of her art, her personal life, and her theoretical understandings of semiotics and culture. Kraus’s response, though a fair defense of art as politics, falls a little flat. It seems somehow unsatisfactory. Nevertheless, Semiotext(e) canceled the Boyle Heights event shortly thereafter. It is into this complex interrelationship of politics, culture, and economics that the resurgence of interest in Acker has arrived.
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/why ... acker-now/
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Aresen » 02 May 2018, 16:39

nicole wrote:
02 May 2018, 16:25
Kind of a random one to start the thread with, but it seems to be coming up more, so...anyway.
AT A RECENT DISCUSSION at the CUNY Graduate Center with the writer Chris Kraus, the first question came from a protestor. Kraus was there to talk about After Kathy Acker, her excellent new biography of postmodern lit’s enfant terrible. But the question was not about the biography or Acker’s fiction or even Kraus’s own remarkable novels. Instead, the questioner asked why Semiotext(e), Kraus’s publisher — and at one point Acker’s — was hosting a reading with Kraus at the gallery 356 Mission in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles. Boyle Heights, a historically Latinx neighborhood, is currently engaged in a struggle against gentrification, taking on that seemingly naïve first wave of cultural pioneers: the artists, gallerists, and musicians who often head out to the frontier of what are often lower-income, nonwhite neighborhoods in search of urban grit, inspiration, and, most importantly, cheap rents. Why, the questioner asked, would Kraus and Semiotext(e) contribute to such gentrification? Semiotext(e), a long-standing publisher of radical continental leftist theory, politics, and fiction, would be directly contributing to gentrification.

After a brief impasse, the usual questions begin, with Kraus answering one on politics by pointing out that while Acker was no activist, her work held a subversive edge. Acker, Kraus explained, was political in terms of her art, her personal life, and her theoretical understandings of semiotics and culture. Kraus’s response, though a fair defense of art as politics, falls a little flat. It seems somehow unsatisfactory. Nevertheless, Semiotext(e) canceled the Boyle Heights event shortly thereafter. It is into this complex interrelationship of politics, culture, and economics that the resurgence of interest in Acker has arrived.
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/why ... acker-now/
I would like to know just who is leading this 'struggle'. I suspect most of the neighborhood couldn't give a fuck.

Also, is 'Latinx' a typo or some new 'identity'? (Or a new fabric developed by Dupont?)

FWIW, I ran the passage through Flesch-Kincaid. Ease of reading 35.3. Grade level 13.4. I am sure that the article is accessible to the residents of Boyle Heights.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Shem » 02 May 2018, 16:40

Latinx=Latino and Latina.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Jennifer » 02 May 2018, 20:45

nicole wrote:
02 May 2018, 16:25
Kind of a random one to start the thread with, but it seems to be coming up more, so...anyway.
AT A RECENT DISCUSSION at the CUNY Graduate Center with the writer Chris Kraus, the first question came from a protestor. Kraus was there to talk about After Kathy Acker, her excellent new biography of postmodern lit’s enfant terrible. But the question was not about the biography or Acker’s fiction or even Kraus’s own remarkable novels. Instead, the questioner asked why Semiotext(e), Kraus’s publisher — and at one point Acker’s — was hosting a reading with Kraus at the gallery 356 Mission in Boyle Heights, Los Angeles. Boyle Heights, a historically Latinx neighborhood, is currently engaged in a struggle against gentrification, taking on that seemingly naïve first wave of cultural pioneers: the artists, gallerists, and musicians who often head out to the frontier of what are often lower-income, nonwhite neighborhoods in search of urban grit, inspiration, and, most importantly, cheap rents. Why, the questioner asked, would Kraus and Semiotext(e) contribute to such gentrification? Semiotext(e), a long-standing publisher of radical continental leftist theory, politics, and fiction, would be directly contributing to gentrification.

After a brief impasse, the usual questions begin, with Kraus answering one on politics by pointing out that while Acker was no activist, her work held a subversive edge. Acker, Kraus explained, was political in terms of her art, her personal life, and her theoretical understandings of semiotics and culture. Kraus’s response, though a fair defense of art as politics, falls a little flat. It seems somehow unsatisfactory. Nevertheless, Semiotext(e) canceled the Boyle Heights event shortly thereafter. It is into this complex interrelationship of politics, culture, and economics that the resurgence of interest in Acker has arrived.
https://lareviewofbooks.org/article/why ... acker-now/
Ah, yes, clearly we can't have book readings in neighborhoods where poor people live. Might fill their heads with ideas.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Eric the .5b » 02 May 2018, 21:09

"seemingly naïve first wave".

I'm glad these writers are smart enough to realize that these aren't really people looking for affordable places to live and work, but the first scouts of The White Conspiracy.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Painboy » 03 May 2018, 01:54

Well it's obvious now that for their own protection we need to wall these areas off to prevent further contamination. Only state approved food and supplies should be allowed in lest we ruin it's delicate infrastructure.

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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by thoreau » 03 May 2018, 02:21

I approve of the thread title.

Also, since this thread is in the open area, I might have to invite some of my much cooler friends to come to this thread and take it over.
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Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 02:22

I've had some disquieting thoughts along these lines because in Atlanta, "Gentrification is hurting the poor" is a HUGE topic of local news. As it happens, if Jeff and I are indeed going to settle here and buy a house -- well, we're likely going to buy in what is euphemistically called a "majority minority" neighborhood -- not from any desire to Hurt The Poor or promote white supremacy, but because that's where the houses in our price range are. (Granted, my price range/affordability standards are much stricter than any bank's -- mainly because I don't want us putting on the so-called "golden handcuffs" -- but if we had, all our years together, lived "in our means" rather than well below them -- we never would've had enough savings to get us through that horrible, horrible, lengthy period when we were both out of work, and in fuckballs-expensive Loudoun County, too.)

The thing about these "gentrification is bad" articles is, they never seem to consider that maybe the people looking for those "cheap" housing costs mentioned in the article aren't slumming rich folks, but people with actual financial reasons to live where they are.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 02:22

thoreau wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:21
Also, since this thread is in the open area, I might have to invite some of my much cooler friends to come to this thread and take it over.
Oh, hell. They're not going to open any of those "five dollars per mouthful" cupcake shops, are they?
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Post by thoreau » 03 May 2018, 02:23

As if you could get a gluten-free vegan cupcake for a mere $5 in a cool neighborhood.
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Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 02:33

Per mouthful, I said. That's at least $25 per cupcake.
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Post by Pham Nuwen » 03 May 2018, 02:35

25? Why do you hate the poor, Jen?
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Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 02:43

Pham Nuwen wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:35
25? Why do you hate the poor, Jen?
I don't! Thoreau's the one threatening to gentrify the place with his $25 cupcake cool-people friends; I'm the one opposing it, remember?

Somebody here has to stick up for the poor.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Jake » 03 May 2018, 02:53

Jennifer wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:43
Somebody here has to stick up for the poor.
Let them eat cupcake.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 02:55

Jake wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:53
Jennifer wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:43
Somebody here has to stick up for the poor.
Let them eat cupcake.
At a reasonable price.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by thoreau » 03 May 2018, 03:10

Jake wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:53
Jennifer wrote:
03 May 2018, 02:43
Somebody here has to stick up for the poor.
Let them eat cupcake.
The law, in its majesty, grants both rich and poor the negative right to suffer no interference in eating any cupcake that they can obtain via purely voluntary mechanisms.

But the law, in its majesty, grants neither rich nor poor the positive right to have a cupcake provided.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Shem » 03 May 2018, 09:45

Gentrification is undocumented immigration for the left-leaning.
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Post by Warren » 03 May 2018, 11:05

Shem wrote:
03 May 2018, 09:45
Gentrification is undocumented immigration for the left-leaning.
winner winner chicken dinner
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Pham Nuwen » 03 May 2018, 11:41

Shem wrote:
03 May 2018, 09:45
Gentrification is undocumented immigration for the left-leaning.
Bam!
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Aresen » 03 May 2018, 11:54

Problem:
Shem wrote:
03 May 2018, 09:45
Gentrification is undocumented immigration for the left-leaning.
Solution:
Painboy wrote:
03 May 2018, 01:54
Well it's obvious now that for their own protection we need to wall these areas off to prevent further contamination. Only state approved food and supplies should be allowed in lest we ruin it's delicate infrastructure.
Gluten, HFCS and sugar free foods, of course.

And no smoking or vaping.
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by JasonL » 03 May 2018, 11:57

Shem wrote:
03 May 2018, 09:45
Gentrification is undocumented immigration for the left-leaning.
Just so. Nicely put.

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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Jennifer » 03 May 2018, 13:09

I went looking for articles about gentrification in Atlanta, and found one that in places almost reads like a burlesque parody of the matter. (Even if you're not familiar with the city or any of its neighborhoods and landmarks, if you read the article I'm sure you can from the context figure out "Ah, THIS must be a rich neighborhood, and THAT is a poor neighborhood being gentrified, and this over HERE is....")

https://www.citylab.com/equity/2017/11/ ... ta/545555/

Rather than lose the laws which effectively limit the amount of housing that can be built, and/or "snob zoning" laws requiring homes be bigger or more luxurious than needed solely to keep the prices up, here's the big "fixit" proposal:
...On a humid October evening, community members of neighborhoods where the BeltLine will arrive next met at the Families First building in southwest Atlanta, to discuss one possible way to avoid this fate: an inclusive zoning ordinance introduced by Atlanta City Council members Andre Dickens and Michael Julian Bond.

The ordinance moves to revise zoning laws that cover the BeltLine’s path and surrounding area to require any project of more than 10 units to set aside a portion of its units for affordable housing for 20 years. In return, developers receive incentives such as reduced property taxes and reduced parking requirements. ...
So even if this plan IS put into fruition, what will the results be? Make parking even MORE scarce than it already is (and parking in Atlanta proper is already a big problem; there are certain events or places Jeff and I won't bother going to because of things like "We'll have to spend 20 bucks just to park for two hours, over and above the cost of the event or place itself"), give rich developers a tax break at the expense of everybody else, in exchange for which the "affordable housing" problem will not even be solved, but merely kicked down the road another 20 years. (Besides, as a practical matter -- and given the really shitty mass-transit options around here, and that you still effectively NEED a car if you want to hold a steady job and whatnot -- WTF good will it do a poor person to get a reduced-rent apartment if he'll still have to pay through the nose to park his car every month?)
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Re: Gentry from the block

Post by Fin Fang Foom » 03 May 2018, 22:47

Oh no! Car owners forced to internalize their own costs!
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Post by Jennifer » 04 May 2018, 08:36

Fin Fang Foom wrote:
03 May 2018, 22:47
Oh no! Car owners forced to internalize their own costs!
More like "Developers allowed and even encouraged to build housing that lacks certain vital necessities." This isn't Manhattan, or Boston in walking distance of a T-stop, where a car is a luxury. Here -- especially if you have the sort of job that qualifies you as low-income for this area -- if you don't have a car, you can't get to work.

(If they were limiting parking while greatly expanding mass transit options, that would be different. But they're not.)
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