Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by thoreau » 09 May 2019, 22:03

Certainly corporate America has been known to engage in plenty of "Support The Troops!" virtue signaling. There must be environments where dissing them would go over poorly.

I don't see why it has to be all one or all the other. I personally suspect that in smaller organizations, or certain units of larger organizations, the prejudices of the boss and/or local culture will rule the day. At the same time, it does seem that the risk aversion of larger organizations inclines them in socially liberal directions. This isn't solely an observation of conservatives. I've seen lefties observe that corporate virtue signaling is a way for neoliberal corporations to undermine worker solidarity.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Painboy » 09 May 2019, 22:46

Some Google employees freaked out over a very innocuous military contract, none of them faced sanction, and even got their way, but when some guy in an internal discussion group gives a wrongthink response to their diversity program he's fired.

Everywhere I have worked would have similar results in that kind of case. Barring someone burning an American flag outside the main office you can get away with all kinds of lefty speak without incurring any real consequences.

Sure there are conservative values oriented companies out there too but there is a much smaller ratio of them compared to companies that will send you packing for expressing right wing wrongthink. I'd be more comfortable trying to explain how great Juggalo values are in a company setting than speaking positively about conservative ones.

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Shem » 09 May 2019, 22:56

JasonL wrote:
09 May 2019, 18:34
Uh, sure. Get back to me when there are mandatory respect the troops trainings at every company in america. Go to any HR department anywhere in america and say one thing each from each list and you let me know which one gets you fired. How hard is it to get deleted from platforms for comments from each camp. I think this is an absurd take tbh. This isn't a contest for who says the most extreme things, it's very specifically a comment about whose views are primarily, fundamentally about defining words as weapons, claiming threats and harm, and using those constructs to shut down dissent.
Meanwhile an officer in the Coast Guard can hatch a no-shit assassination plot for the sake of furthering white nationalism, and not get charged with terrorism. But hey, Black Lives Matter can...get someone fired. You think the equivalency is absurd; I think your reduction of this to corporate America and the prospect of being kicked out of middle-class respectability more broadly is absurd, and causes you to soft-peddle the silencing of anyone who is outside of it. Plus, your focus on protesters is letting the real source of your concerns off the hook. Instead of freaking out over loudmouths on the internet, you could demand some accountability from the corporations that are feeding people to them. Unless you think the loudmouths own stock and that's why the companies are giving in?
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Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by JasonL » 10 May 2019, 00:29

You think it’s loudmouths. I think it’s most people left of center in 2019. So yes being Rape Co or White Supremacy Inc will have legs among large swaths of moronic lefties. Best not to fight them. It’s a shitty tactic though.

The coordinated institutional nature of it is the thing. That and the hundred mile wide set of topics about which there is wrong think.

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by lunchstealer » 10 May 2019, 04:41

Painboy wrote:Some Google employees freaked out over a very innocuous military contract, none of them faced sanction, and even got their way, but when some guy in an internal discussion group gives a wrongthink response to their diversity program he's fired.

Everywhere I have worked would have similar results in that kind of case. Barring someone burning an American flag outside the main office you can get away with all kinds of lefty speak without incurring any real consequences.

Sure there are conservative values oriented companies out there too but there is a much smaller ratio of them compared to companies that will send you packing for expressing right wing wrongthink. I'd be more comfortable trying to explain how great Juggalo values are in a company setting than speaking positively about conservative ones.
At the Bay Area company whose motto is "Don't Be Evil". Wokemon Enterprises and Social Justice Underarmor would be more unrepresentative samples, I suppose.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Hugh Akston » 10 May 2019, 10:33

Painboy wrote:
09 May 2019, 22:46
Some Google employees freaked out over a very innocuous military contract
Was that before or after they freaked over two very nocuous military contracts?
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Mo » 10 May 2019, 12:04

Speaking of Google, conservatives have been bitching and moaning about fucking Google doodles for well over a decade (including making up fake ones). I wish there was a John Brown doodle yesterday to see what sort of vapors that would have elicited.
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