Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Hugh Akston » 20 Feb 2019, 18:15

I'd like to see a remake of 12 Angry Men where the defendant is plainly guilty according to the letter of the law, but Juror #8 convinces the others to nullify.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Number 6 » 20 Feb 2019, 18:39

Hugh Akston wrote:
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I'd like to see a remake of 12 Angry Men where the defendant is plainly guilty according to the letter of the law, but Juror #8 convinces the others to nullify.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by tr0g » 21 Feb 2019, 15:47

Jussie Smollett, according to my new feed, wrote his buddies a check for the attack. You are hilariously bad at committing crimes if you are paying people by check. Did he ask for a receipt, too, do you think?
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Aresen » 21 Feb 2019, 15:53

tr0g wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 15:47
Jussie Smollett, according to my new feed, wrote his buddies a check for the attack. You are hilariously bad at committing crimes if you are paying people by check. Did he ask for a receipt, too, do you think?
He's streisanding.

(Honestly, I'd never heard of him before this little foofahrah.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

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tr0g wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 15:47
Jussie Smollett, according to my new feed, wrote his buddies a check for the attack. You are hilariously bad at committing crimes if you are paying people by check. Did he ask for a receipt, too, do you think?
There was an Unsolved Mysteries about a murder for hire, where the murderer actually left a note to himself that was like, "Reassure [guy who hired him] that you'll say you acted alone if the police arrest you for killing [victim]." Some criminals just love a paper trail, I guess!
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by thoreau » 21 Feb 2019, 17:31

What kind of TV star gives key jobs to the extras?
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Post by Mo » 21 Feb 2019, 17:40

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Kolohe » 21 Feb 2019, 20:34

A 49 year old Coastie Lieutenant categorized as a 'military officer' is the very definition of 'technically correct'
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Post by D.A. Ridgely » 21 Feb 2019, 21:11

Kolohe wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 20:34
A 49 year old Coastie Lieutenant categorized as a 'military officer' is the very definition of 'technically correct'
But he was a Marine corporal, so let's hear it for semi-upward mobility!

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Post by Pham Nuwen » 21 Feb 2019, 22:51

D.A. Ridgely wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 21:11
Kolohe wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 20:34
A 49 year old Coastie Lieutenant categorized as a 'military officer' is the very definition of 'technically correct'
But he was a Marine corporal, so let's hear it for semi-upward mobility!
They let crayon eaters into the coast guard now? They must be really scraping the bottom of the barrel.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Shem » 22 Feb 2019, 09:43

Kolohe wrote:
21 Feb 2019, 20:34
A 49 year old Coastie Lieutenant categorized as a 'military officer' is the very definition of 'technically correct'
Hey man, he's a veteran in the war on dipshits with boats.
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Post by Aresen » 22 Feb 2019, 11:33

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by thoreau » 22 Feb 2019, 12:01

It's hard to sympathize with the guy, but if we're going to push back on outrage culture then there needs to be some forgiveness, not more banishment.
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Post by Aresen » 22 Feb 2019, 19:04

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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Eric the .5b » 22 Feb 2019, 19:57

thoreau wrote:
22 Feb 2019, 12:01
It's hard to sympathize with the guy, but if we're going to push back on outrage culture then there needs to be some forgiveness, not more banishment.
Forgiveness can wait for at least an apology, honest repentance, etc.

Or, you know, at least more than a couple of days.

I mean, Hell, this sort of ever-so-sinister "unpersoning" has happened due to salary disputes not going an actor's way. Being involved in faking a hate crime and so losing an acting role doesn't seem particularly draconian.
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Post by thoreau » 22 Feb 2019, 20:05

I see your point, but I do hope that he returns to acting. I don't want to see him blackballed from the industry, nor do I want to see him turn into some sort of Rohrschach figure who's a hero on the social justice lecture circuit or whatever and used by the other side as proof of how broken the left is. I'd rather that he be rehabilitated into an ordinary working actor who's past all that. If he's forever defined by this it will be bad for him and bad for everyone else too.

Or maybe I'm over-compensating. I'm a guy who gets easily upset by SJWs, so I'm trying not to let my knee jerk too hard against him. I'd rather see this handled quietly without either his life being ruined or him becoming some sort of permanent symbol.

Yeah, I read Jon Ronson's book.
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Post by thoreau » 22 Feb 2019, 20:08

FWIW, I also think that MAGA Teen Hunger Force went too far in filing such a massive lawsuit. I'll let lawyers opine on whether they have a good case for libel, but you can't tell me that they've suffered anything close to $250 million in harm. Demanding an amount equal to the reported market value of the WaPo just signals that they're looking for war-everlasting, not simple compensation for harm done.
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Post by Eric the .5b » 22 Feb 2019, 20:16

The SJWs that I come across are fucking livid at the guy. He's not turning into any sort of rallying figure for them. He's just going to be the go-to name on the right for not giving a shit about hate crimes (because they're all faked, amirite?).
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Or maybe I'm over-compensating. I'm a guy who gets easily upset by SJWs, so I'm trying not to let my knee jerk too hard against him. I'd rather see this handled quietly without either his life being ruined or him becoming some sort of permanent symbol.
That's at least partially up to him, and he's still claiming that it happened.

So, I have little concern for the guy. When he's not even admitting his wrongdoing, forgiveness can wait. If he needs mental help, then his career can wait. The world doesn't need to bend over backwards so one minor celebrity doesn't have to face consequences.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by nicole » 23 Feb 2019, 07:40

Dude is still primarily a victim of himself, not of outrage culture.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by thoreau » 23 Feb 2019, 11:59

He's a victim of himself, but he tried to take advantage of outrage culture, and wound up feeding it (albeit not in the way he intended).

Maybe the best outcome for now, pending some self-reflection and apology, is if the case drop off the front page and receive as much attention as when your crazy neighbor gets prosecuted for false police reports.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Warren » 23 Feb 2019, 11:59

thoreau wrote:
22 Feb 2019, 20:05
I see your point, but I do hope that he returns to acting. I don't want to see him blackballed from the industry, nor do I want to see him turn into some sort of Rohrschach figure who's a hero on the social justice lecture circuit or whatever and used by the other side as proof of how broken the left is. I'd rather that he be rehabilitated into an ordinary working actor who's past all that. If he's forever defined by this it will be bad for him and bad for everyone else too.

Or maybe I'm over-compensating. I'm a guy who gets easily upset by SJWs, so I'm trying not to let my knee jerk too hard against him. I'd rather see this handled quietly without either his life being ruined or him becoming some sort of permanent symbol.

Yeah, I read Jon Ronson's book.
Can't we just forget about him and he plays dinner theater of whatever?
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Solitudinarian » 23 Feb 2019, 18:44

thoreau wrote:
23 Feb 2019, 11:59
Maybe the best outcome for now, pending some self-reflection and apology, is if the case drop off the front page and receive as much attention as when your crazy neighbor gets prosecuted for false police reports.
I cannot remember the last time you wrote something as clearly wrong as this.
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by Ellie » 23 Feb 2019, 18:52

With a "mea culpa" for not following the news closely and being too lazy to do my own research -- so the scandal is that this guy faked being assaulted? Didn't Ryan Lochte also pretend to be mugged during the Olympics? Didn't people mostly just shrug over that and move on? Is the outrage here more that he pretended it was MAGA-zombies out for his flesh and not just regular criminals being criminals? Haven't other actors pretended to be the victims of crime and kidnapping and other weird stuff and they just got written off as loons? Are we just in a slow news cycle this month and that's why this story won't die?
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Re: Random Observations C.A (306 pages is enough)

Post by thoreau » 23 Feb 2019, 19:36

Solitudinarian wrote:
23 Feb 2019, 18:44
thoreau wrote:
23 Feb 2019, 11:59
Maybe the best outcome for now, pending some self-reflection and apology, is if the case drop off the front page and receive as much attention as when your crazy neighbor gets prosecuted for false police reports.
I cannot remember the last time you wrote something as clearly wrong as this.
What is the good thing that will come from continued attention to this case?
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