GET OFF MY LAWN!

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 27361
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Warren » 19 Sep 2017, 11:44

All things geezer.
Kids today. My bursitis acting up. Letters to the editor. Stuff like that there.
It's dumb out there kids, keep your heads down. - JasonL

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 27361
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Warren » 19 Sep 2017, 11:45

The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
It's dumb out there kids, keep your heads down. - JasonL

User avatar
Pham Nuwen
Posts: 7951
Joined: 27 Apr 2010, 02:17

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Pham Nuwen » 19 Sep 2017, 16:07

My IV software is from 1988 ....
Goddamn libertarian message board. Hugh Akston

leave me to my mescaline smoothie in peace, please. dhex

User avatar
Solitudinarian
Posts: 381
Joined: 05 May 2010, 16:06

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Solitudinarian » 19 Sep 2017, 16:26

My bursitis is acting up.
“I have no Message to reveal. But later on––Who knows?––I might.”

“A citizen may not be required to offer a ‘good and substantial reason’ why he should be permitted to exercise his rights. The right’s existence is all the reason he needs.”

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 27361
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Warren » 19 Sep 2017, 17:22

Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
It's dumb out there kids, keep your heads down. - JasonL

User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 24378
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JasonL » 19 Sep 2017, 17:26

Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.



User avatar
Aresen
Posts: 16134
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 20:18
Location: Great White Pacific Northwest

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Aresen » 19 Sep 2017, 17:58

JasonL wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:26
Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.
Get JasonL a prune juice.
If Trump supporters wanted a tough guy, why did they elect such a whiny bitch? - Mo

Those who know history are doomed to deja vu. - the innominate one

Never bring a knife to a joke fight" - dhex

User avatar
lunchstealer
Posts: 17527
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:25
Location: The Local Fluff in the Local Bubble

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by lunchstealer » 19 Sep 2017, 18:11

Aresen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:58
JasonL wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:26
Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.
Get JasonL a prune juice.
Image
"The constitution is more of a BDSM agreement with a safe word." - Sandy

"Neoliberalism. Austerity. Booga booga!!!!" - JasonL

"We can't confirm rumors that Lynndie England is in the running to be Gina Haspel's personal aide." - DAR

User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 24378
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JasonL » 19 Sep 2017, 20:13

Erf meh lawwwrn!!!

User avatar
Rachel
Posts: 2663
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 19:50

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Rachel » 19 Sep 2017, 20:30

Warren wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 11:45
The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
My boss made a Princess Bride reference at work last week.

My younger co-workers not only didn't get it, one of them said "What's the Princess Bride?"
No lie I'm fucking tired of glorified false histories-JasonL

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 27361
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Warren » 19 Sep 2017, 20:33

Rachel wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 20:30
Warren wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 11:45
The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
My boss made a Princess Bride reference at work last week.

My younger co-workers not only didn't get it, one of them said "What's the Princess Bride?"
I hope you answered with "You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you."
It's dumb out there kids, keep your heads down. - JasonL

User avatar
pistoffnick
Posts: 2740
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 18:52
Location: Right behind you. Watching.

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by pistoffnick » 26 Sep 2017, 12:29

Warren wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 11:45
The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
INCONCEIVABLE!
Always be suspicious of people who have, or crave, power. - Stanley Kubrick
"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under." - H.L. Mencken
"The welfare of humanity is always the alibi of tyrants." - Albert Camus

User avatar
the innominate one
Posts: 12356
Joined: 17 May 2011, 16:17
Location: hypertime continuum

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by the innominate one » 26 Sep 2017, 12:38

You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
"Politics is the art of looking for trouble, finding it everywhere, diagnosing it incorrectly and applying the wrong remedies." -E Benn

"No shit, Sherlock." -JsubD

"now is the time to go fuck yourself until you die." -dhex

User avatar
Andrew
Posts: 6724
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 21:52
Location: Vale of Eternal Fire

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Andrew » 15 Oct 2017, 22:57

I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
We live in the fucked age. Get used to it. - dhex

The sun only shines when a woman is being sexually abused. - Warren

User avatar
Warren
Posts: 27361
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 17:03
Location: Goat Rope MO
Contact:

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Warren » 15 Oct 2017, 23:00

Some channels boost the audio for commercials. It's a reminder to mute/FF.
It's dumb out there kids, keep your heads down. - JasonL

User avatar
Andrew
Posts: 6724
Joined: 26 Apr 2010, 21:52
Location: Vale of Eternal Fire

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Andrew » 15 Oct 2017, 23:04

I don't mean the commercials. I mean within shows.
We live in the fucked age. Get used to it. - dhex

The sun only shines when a woman is being sexually abused. - Warren

User avatar
Highway
Posts: 13338
Joined: 12 May 2011, 00:22
Location: the Electric Ocean

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Highway » 15 Oct 2017, 23:09

Andrew wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 22:57
I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
A lot of the time this is an artifact of the 5.1 surround mixing. They put all of the dialogue in the center channel, but they'll have the other sounds in all the other speakers, with no reinforcement for the dialogue. And then when you watch it just with stereo speakers, it's poorly remixed by your TV to split the voices between left and right equally, but not increase their level. So you get full volume on the left and right (plus some from the rears), but not really a boost for the now split center.

It's not much better if you actually use 5 channel surround, because it's just even, but at least there's some discrete positioning.
"Sharks do not go around challenging people to games of chance like dojo breakers."

User avatar
JD
Posts: 11173
Joined: 05 May 2010, 15:26

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JD » 16 Oct 2017, 13:07

Andrew wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 22:57
I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
I have been really wishing for a solution for this. Watching movies at home, the dialog is so quiet we have to turn the volume way up, and then there's an action scene or some loud music, and it's deafening, so we have to turn the volume back down...rinse and repeat.
I sort of feel like a sucker about aspiring to be intellectually rigorous when I could just go on twitter and say capitalism causes space herpes and no one will challenge me on it. - Hugh Akston

User avatar
Highway
Posts: 13338
Joined: 12 May 2011, 00:22
Location: the Electric Ocean

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Highway » 16 Oct 2017, 13:17

A couple of things you can look for in order to address some of that. If you are listening through a surround sound system, you could boost the center channel a little bit, since there's very rarely any music or effects through the center.

If you are hearing through the TV speakers, or even an outboard receiver or soundbar, look for a "normalization" setting or "Nighttime" setting for the audio. These use compression to limit the dynamic range of the output so that the loud parts aren't as much louder than the soft parts. Some also have EQ settings that can boost the frequencies that are normally associated with human voices. I prefer the overall compression more than the EQ settings.
"Sharks do not go around challenging people to games of chance like dojo breakers."

User avatar
Painboy
Posts: 4182
Joined: 18 Feb 2013, 11:33
Location: Seattle

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Painboy » 16 Oct 2017, 13:21

Highway wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 23:09
Andrew wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 22:57
I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
A lot of the time this is an artifact of the 5.1 surround mixing. They put all of the dialogue in the center channel, but they'll have the other sounds in all the other speakers, with no reinforcement for the dialogue. And then when you watch it just with stereo speakers, it's poorly remixed by your TV to split the voices between left and right equally, but not increase their level. So you get full volume on the left and right (plus some from the rears), but not really a boost for the now split center.

It's not much better if you actually use 5 channel surround, because it's just even, but at least there's some discrete positioning.
I always raise my center channel speaker level when I hook up 5.1 speakers. I don't know why this is such an issue when it comes to sound mixing. I know they don't want to flatten the sound effects and soundtrack but it's a complaint I hear(ha) a lot from other people.

User avatar
Highway
Posts: 13338
Joined: 12 May 2011, 00:22
Location: the Electric Ocean

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Highway » 16 Oct 2017, 13:27

Well, they want to preserve that "theater" experience, especially with movies and pretentious TV. So they mix it with a high dynamic range, but honestly most people don't give a flip about high dynamic range. Instead, they're more put off by SUPER LOUD EXPLOSIONS and dialog you need the subtitles for. So they mix it one way, and then the people who make equipment give us a bunch of workarounds, which honestly is the better way to do it, but is annoying for people who don't realize there are those workarounds.
"Sharks do not go around challenging people to games of chance like dojo breakers."

User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 24378
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JasonL » 16 Oct 2017, 14:01

I haven't found a good way to deal with it in a non 5.1 center channel set up though. I did bookshelf speakers for a while and I use a Sonos bar now, but it is still a thing in some shows. I think Sonos is smart enough that if i get 2 satellites plus the bar it will use soundbar as center channel and I should get more clarity, but I haven't done that yet.

User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 24378
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JasonL » 16 Oct 2017, 14:06

I find myself wondering in 2017 what percent of homes actually use a 5.1 or higher setup as opposed to a soundbar or some such. I mean, I'd guess it's like 10% maybe, which is super odd given that most content you get from DTV or cable or netflix is coming at you mixed for 5.1

User avatar
Jennifer
Posts: 24498
Joined: 28 Apr 2010, 14:03

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by Jennifer » 16 Oct 2017, 14:14

My 32-inch non-smart TV doesn't have SurroundSound, I don't think, but it DOES have the exact problem JD described for watching recent movies: people's speaking voices are barely above whispers, while the background music and any sound effects are ridiculously loud.
"Myself, despite what they say about libertarians, I think we're actually allowed to pursue options beyond futility or sucking the dicks of the powerful." -- Eric the .5b

User avatar
JasonL
Posts: 24378
Joined: 05 May 2010, 17:22

Re: GET OFF MY LAWN!

Post by JasonL » 16 Oct 2017, 14:25

Yeah the guys mixing the sound are acting like you have a single speaker where they can direct most of the dialogue, so when your system doesn't do that the effect is mumblemumble.

Post Reply

Who is online

Users browsing this forum: No registered users and 10 guests