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The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
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My IV software is from 1988 ....
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My bursitis is acting up.
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Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
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Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.



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JasonL wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:26
Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.
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Aresen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:58
JasonL wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 17:26
Warren wrote:
Pham Nuwen wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 16:07
My IV software is from 1988 ....
You have software for a tube in your vein?
He's so vein, I bet he thinks this thread is about him.
Get JasonL a prune juice.
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Erf meh lawwwrn!!!

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Warren wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 11:45
The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
My boss made a Princess Bride reference at work last week.

My younger co-workers not only didn't get it, one of them said "What's the Princess Bride?"
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Rachel wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 20:30
Warren wrote:
19 Sep 2017, 11:45
The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
My boss made a Princess Bride reference at work last week.

My younger co-workers not only didn't get it, one of them said "What's the Princess Bride?"
I hope you answered with "You seem a decent fellow. I hate to kill you."
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Warren wrote:
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The Princess Bride is 30 years old.
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You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
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I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
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Some channels boost the audio for commercials. It's a reminder to mute/FF.
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I don't mean the commercials. I mean within shows.
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Andrew wrote:
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I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
A lot of the time this is an artifact of the 5.1 surround mixing. They put all of the dialogue in the center channel, but they'll have the other sounds in all the other speakers, with no reinforcement for the dialogue. And then when you watch it just with stereo speakers, it's poorly remixed by your TV to split the voices between left and right equally, but not increase their level. So you get full volume on the left and right (plus some from the rears), but not really a boost for the now split center.

It's not much better if you actually use 5 channel surround, because it's just even, but at least there's some discrete positioning.
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Andrew wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 22:57
I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
I have been really wishing for a solution for this. Watching movies at home, the dialog is so quiet we have to turn the volume way up, and then there's an action scene or some loud music, and it's deafening, so we have to turn the volume back down...rinse and repeat.
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A couple of things you can look for in order to address some of that. If you are listening through a surround sound system, you could boost the center channel a little bit, since there's very rarely any music or effects through the center.

If you are hearing through the TV speakers, or even an outboard receiver or soundbar, look for a "normalization" setting or "Nighttime" setting for the audio. These use compression to limit the dynamic range of the output so that the loud parts aren't as much louder than the soft parts. Some also have EQ settings that can boost the frequencies that are normally associated with human voices. I prefer the overall compression more than the EQ settings.
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Highway wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 23:09
Andrew wrote:
15 Oct 2017, 22:57
I referenced this is another thread, but why is everything so damn loud and mushed together in TV and movies? Making the dialog the quietest part of a show is not a good way to get me to watch more.
A lot of the time this is an artifact of the 5.1 surround mixing. They put all of the dialogue in the center channel, but they'll have the other sounds in all the other speakers, with no reinforcement for the dialogue. And then when you watch it just with stereo speakers, it's poorly remixed by your TV to split the voices between left and right equally, but not increase their level. So you get full volume on the left and right (plus some from the rears), but not really a boost for the now split center.

It's not much better if you actually use 5 channel surround, because it's just even, but at least there's some discrete positioning.
I always raise my center channel speaker level when I hook up 5.1 speakers. I don't know why this is such an issue when it comes to sound mixing. I know they don't want to flatten the sound effects and soundtrack but it's a complaint I hear(ha) a lot from other people.

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Well, they want to preserve that "theater" experience, especially with movies and pretentious TV. So they mix it with a high dynamic range, but honestly most people don't give a flip about high dynamic range. Instead, they're more put off by SUPER LOUD EXPLOSIONS and dialog you need the subtitles for. So they mix it one way, and then the people who make equipment give us a bunch of workarounds, which honestly is the better way to do it, but is annoying for people who don't realize there are those workarounds.
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I haven't found a good way to deal with it in a non 5.1 center channel set up though. I did bookshelf speakers for a while and I use a Sonos bar now, but it is still a thing in some shows. I think Sonos is smart enough that if i get 2 satellites plus the bar it will use soundbar as center channel and I should get more clarity, but I haven't done that yet.

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I find myself wondering in 2017 what percent of homes actually use a 5.1 or higher setup as opposed to a soundbar or some such. I mean, I'd guess it's like 10% maybe, which is super odd given that most content you get from DTV or cable or netflix is coming at you mixed for 5.1

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My 32-inch non-smart TV doesn't have SurroundSound, I don't think, but it DOES have the exact problem JD described for watching recent movies: people's speaking voices are barely above whispers, while the background music and any sound effects are ridiculously loud.
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Yeah the guys mixing the sound are acting like you have a single speaker where they can direct most of the dialogue, so when your system doesn't do that the effect is mumblemumble.

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